|
Post by bob on Jun 6, 2007 10:51:39 GMT -6
I drove by this property today and I definitely think it's the one that sd204taxpayer refers to - bound by Audrey Ln. (Home Depot) on the S. and Fort Hill on the East. That is the property that Kimball got re-zoned so I don't think it's a comparable. How can you say it is not a comp - i don't think you can get a better one since it is kitty corner from the property. 1)Well you haven't given the proof of the price that you stated. 2) According to Bubbagump whose BB comp posts are all missing . Luckily I had it in a database. BB didn't use it for their comps . 3) It isn't exactly kitty corner to the BB site.
|
|
|
Post by doctorwho on Jun 6, 2007 11:15:32 GMT -6
How can you say it is not a comp - i don't think you can get a better one since it is kitty corner from the property. 1)Well you haven't given the proof of the price that you stated. 2) According to Bubbagump whose BB comp posts are all missing . Luckily I had it in a database. BB didn't use it for their comps . 3) It isn't exactly kitty corner to the BB site. learned something today - for me it was always caddy corner vs kitty corner - found out they are the same thing www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=caddy+cornercaddy corner diagonal 1. caddy corner 17 up, 7 down diagonally opposite from the point where you are now, as if standing on one corner in a square Ryan told Matt to come caddy corner through the parking lot. Matt did not, and got his truck stuck in an enormous mud hole. www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-kit1.htm[Q] From Ian McAloon in the UK; Patricia P Miller asked a related question: “I have heard an American friend of mine use the phrase kitty corner to describe things that are diagonally opposed, as for example: ‘The drugstore is kitty corner to the ice-cream parlor’. Have you heard this phrase before and do you have any clue as to its origin?” It’s certainly a very odd-looking phrase. It has lots of variant forms, such as catercorner, kitty-cornered, cata-cornered, and cater-cornered, a sure sign that it puzzles users.
|
|
|
Post by momof3 on Jun 6, 2007 11:41:29 GMT -6
Because it was zoned commercial. And, in addition, I'll stick to my guns in saying that the property being in Aurora makes it less valuable, especially when it's residential. I live in Aurora, so I can say that. Interesting that according to the old post from bubbagump, BB did not use any Aurora comps ... ? Like north of the mall.
|
|
|
Post by doctorwho on Jun 6, 2007 12:43:23 GMT -6
And, in addition, I'll stick to my guns in saying that the property being in Aurora makes it less valuable, especially when it's residential. I live in Aurora, so I can say that. Interesting that according to the old post from bubbagump, BB did not use any Aurora comps ... ? Like north of the mall. Of course they didn't because they were all in the $230K /acre range -- they didn't want those.....even though they are set back from 59 just like their property is, and are closer to the train station.
|
|
|
Post by gatormom on Jun 8, 2007 5:40:07 GMT -6
District 204 land acquisition plans remain under scrutiny June 8, 2007 By BRITT CARSON Staff writer
All sides for and against "quick-take" legislation for Indian Prairie School District 204 came to the table Thursday.
The district is seeking the one-time use quick-take authority to obtain 55 acres of the Brach-Brodie property. If the state Legislature grants the authority, the district will be able to take immediate possession of the land and let a jury later determine the price per acre.
District 204 Superintendent Howie Crouse and school board President Mark Metzger met with Sen. Linda Holmes, D-Aurora, Senate Majority Leader Debbie Halvorson, D-Crete, and Sen. Randy Hultgren, R-Wheaton. Lobbyists for the Brach-Brodie trust also attended the meeting.
"We discussed areas of mutual agreement and areas of continuing contention," Crouse said. "We all left the meeting with specific responsibilities and expectations that we would continue to discuss this between the district and trust and report back to our three senators."
The district wants to build 3,000-seat Metea Valley High School on 80 acres along 75th Street and the future extension of Commons Drive in Aurora. It plans to open the school in the fall of 2009.
The trial for the condemnation lawsuit is scheduled for September.
Holmes said the meeting was beneficial to all parties involved.
"We are all in agreement that this third high school must be built, but disagreement remains between both parties as to how we can achieve that ultimate goal," Holmes said.
|
|
|
Post by proschool on Jun 8, 2007 6:37:31 GMT -6
"We are all in agreement that this third high school must be built, but disagreement remains between both parties as to how we can achieve that ultimate goal," Holmes said. I don't get this. The school board represented by Metzger and the administration represented by Howie are in agreement on how the school should be built. I haven't heard any of the other parties articulate any idea of how the school should be built and it's not their job anyway. BTW the "future extension of Commons Drive" has been built for at least two years. The Naperville Sun really owes it to us to at least drive out to the school site and look at it.
|
|
|
Post by doctorwho on Jun 8, 2007 7:34:47 GMT -6
District 204 land acquisition plans remain under scrutinyJune 8, 2007 By BRITT CARSON Staff writer All sides for and against "quick-take" legislation for Indian Prairie School District 204 came to the table Thursday. The district is seeking the one-time use quick-take authority to obtain 55 acres of the Brach-Brodie property. If the state Legislature grants the authority, the district will be able to take immediate possession of the land and let a jury later determine the price per acre. District 204 Superintendent Howie Crouse and school board President Mark Metzger met with Sen. Linda Holmes, D-Aurora, Senate Majority Leader Debbie Halvorson, D-Crete, and Sen. Randy Hultgren, R-Wheaton. Lobbyists for the Brach-Brodie trust also attended the meeting. "We discussed areas of mutual agreement and areas of continuing contention," Crouse said. "We all left the meeting with specific responsibilities and expectations that we would continue to discuss this between the district and trust and report back to our three senators." The district wants to build 3,000-seat Metea Valley High School on 80 acres along 75th Street and the future extension of Commons Drive in Aurora. It plans to open the school in the fall of 2009. The trial for the condemnation lawsuit is scheduled for September. Holmes said the meeting was beneficial to all parties involved. "We are all in agreement that this third high school must be built, but disagreement remains between both parties as to how we can achieve that ultimate goal," Holmes said. So the attorneys for BB didn't attend - just pay for hire lobbyists ? Nice that 3 senators found time to attend but these attorneys who have been nothing but obstructionists couldn't find the time. Guess they couldn't get out of their tee times.
|
|
|
Post by proschool on Jun 8, 2007 7:59:36 GMT -6
CBS2/Newsradio780 Voter Guide
Candidate Detail Linda Holmes Candidate for Illinois State Senator - 42nd Democratic
Address: 15129 S Route 59, Plainfield, IL 60544 Campaign Phone: 815-609-3711 Web Site: HolmesForSenate.com Email: Linda@HolmesForSenate.com Age: 47 Marital Status: Married to husband Mike for 23 years. City/Town: Aurora Education/Degrees: Bachelor's degree in Business from the National College of Education Occupation: Small business owner, home remodeling Endorsements: Sierra Club, League of Conservation Voters, AFL-CIO, IUPAT (painters), UAW, IBEW, Planned Parenthood, Personal PAC, Veterans for Progress Campaign Message: Building a brighter future for our communities Compare with:
Select Choice B Linda Holmes (D) Terri Ann Wintermute (R)
Q: What are the most important issues you think need to be addressed in Illinois? A: Education: We need a sustainable solution to school funding that guarantees every district a fair share and doesn’t rely too much on property taxes.
I am afraid that we all may be just pawns in this battle to raise the income tax to pay for education. The bill will give the governor and the state legislator control of millions and millions of dollars and then they promise to give us some of it back to pay for the schools. It would be a terrible deal for the kids in 204 because we would receive only a very small percentage of the extra money that families in our district will send to Springfield.
|
|
|
Post by doctorwho on Jun 8, 2007 8:07:47 GMT -6
CBS2/Newsradio780 Voter Guide
Candidate Detail Linda Holmes Candidate for Illinois State Senator - 42nd Democratic
Address: 15129 S Route 59, Plainfield, IL 60544 Campaign Phone: 815-609-3711 Web Site: HolmesForSenate.com Email: Linda@HolmesForSenate.com Age: 47 Marital Status: Married to husband Mike for 23 years. City/Town: Aurora Education/Degrees: Bachelor's degree in Business from the National College of Education Occupation: Small business owner, home remodeling Endorsements: Sierra Club, League of Conservation Voters, AFL-CIO, IUPAT (painters), UAW, IBEW, Planned Parenthood, Personal PAC, Veterans for Progress Campaign Message: Building a brighter future for our communities Compare with:
Select Choice B Linda Holmes (D) Terri Ann Wintermute (R)
Q: What are the most important issues you think need to be addressed in Illinois? A: Education: We need a sustainable solution to school funding that guarantees every district a fair share and doesn’t rely too much on property taxes.
I am afraid that we all may be just pawns in this battle to raise the income tax to pay for education. The bill will give the governor and the state legislator control of millions and millions of dollars and then they promise to give us some of it back to pay for the schools. It would be a terrible deal for the kids in 204 because we would receive only a very small percentage of the extra money that families in our district will send to Springfield. Remember when we were sold the bill of goods about how casino's would cover education..? Most of the new proposals look to increase various taxes and we would get some property tax relief....does anyone really believe our property taxes would go down regardless of whatever else was passed ? The CPS needs money, they're trolling now on who to get it from since a referendum would never pass in the city.
|
|
|
Post by momof3 on Jun 8, 2007 9:42:54 GMT -6
I don't think it's just CPS. I got the feeling during the last election that 131 feels that they shouldn't have to pay to educate their kids - that was the deal for the anti-ref folks running for school board - they want ed funding reform so don't pass the ref.
Where is the money going to come from if they aren't willing to pass a ref?
|
|
|
Post by momto4 on Jun 8, 2007 10:04:47 GMT -6
I don't think it's just CPS. I got the feeling during the last election that 131 feels that they shouldn't have to pay to educate their kids - that was the deal for the anti-ref folks running for school board - they want ed funding reform so don't pass the ref. Where is the money going to come from if they aren't willing to pass a ref? This is the impression I get about EA as well. On openline.blogspot.com there was even discussion that they "win for losing" because they won't have to pay more property taxes but the state will bail them out. They really need to step up to the plate and place some value on education there, and not just financially.
|
|
|
Post by doctorwho on Jun 8, 2007 11:02:58 GMT -6
I don't think it's just CPS. I got the feeling during the last election that 131 feels that they shouldn't have to pay to educate their kids - that was the deal for the anti-ref folks running for school board - they want ed funding reform so don't pass the ref. Where is the money going to come from if they aren't willing to pass a ref? I agree it's not just CPS - but lets face it with 400,000 students, the rest of those standing in line looking for money don't make a dent comparatively. There was a 'voice your choice' on Fox about a week ago asking if your school system was facing a crisis and had to cut - gym / art / music / sports etc etc ( like the district up north is facing now) would you approve a referendum for higher taxes -- a resounding 85% said NO --- tells me all I need to know and really makes me not want to look at a statewide solution ( even though for the kids sake I know it's right) -
|
|
|
Post by momto4 on Jun 8, 2007 11:16:48 GMT -6
I don't think it's just CPS. I got the feeling during the last election that 131 feels that they shouldn't have to pay to educate their kids - that was the deal for the anti-ref folks running for school board - they want ed funding reform so don't pass the ref. Where is the money going to come from if they aren't willing to pass a ref? I agree it's not just CPS - but lets face it with 400,000 students, the rest of those standing in line looking for money don't make a dent comparatively. There was a 'voice your choice' on Fox about a week ago asking if your school system was facing a crisis and had to cut - gym / art / music / sports etc etc ( like the district up north is facing now) would you approve a referendum for higher taxes -- a resounding 85% said NO --- tells me all I need to know and really makes me not want to look at a statewide solution ( even though for the kids sake I know it's right) - I agree. The more local control of funds and what is and isn't provided, the better. I can't begin to imagine the mess if the state takes over the majority of the funding and the decisions. What % of IL public school students attend CPS? I almost wish we could disentangle Chicago everything from the rest of the state.
|
|
|
Post by doctorwho on Jun 8, 2007 12:06:34 GMT -6
I agree it's not just CPS - but lets face it with 400,000 students, the rest of those standing in line looking for money don't make a dent comparatively. There was a 'voice your choice' on Fox about a week ago asking if your school system was facing a crisis and had to cut - gym / art / music / sports etc etc ( like the district up north is facing now) would you approve a referendum for higher taxes -- a resounding 85% said NO --- tells me all I need to know and really makes me not want to look at a statewide solution ( even though for the kids sake I know it's right) - I agree. The more local control of funds and what is and isn't provided, the better. I can't begin to imagine the mess if the state takes over the majority of the funding and the decisions. What % of IL public school students attend CPS? I almost wish we could disentangle Chicago everything from the rest of the state. basically 21% -- for CPS ( not cook county - just Chicago ) -- Illinois public school enrollment for 2007 2,020,000 of which 421,000 are CPS www.cps.k12.il.us/AtAGlance.htmlwww.isbe.state.il.us/research/pdfs/public_school_enrollment.pdf
|
|
|
Post by harry on Jun 8, 2007 21:42:58 GMT -6
I agree it's not just CPS - but lets face it with 400,000 students, the rest of those standing in line looking for money don't make a dent comparatively. There was a 'voice your choice' on Fox about a week ago asking if your school system was facing a crisis and had to cut - gym / art / music / sports etc etc ( like the district up north is facing now) would you approve a referendum for higher taxes -- a resounding 85% said NO --- tells me all I need to know and really makes me not want to look at a statewide solution ( even though for the kids sake I know it's right) - I agree. The more local control of funds and what is and isn't provided, the better. I can't begin to imagine the mess if the state takes over the majority of the funding and the decisions. What % of IL public school students attend CPS? I almost wish we could disentangle Chicago everything from the rest of the state. MO4 Could you please expound on the disentanglement of Chicago?? I am not certain I understand your feelings.
|
|