North site location benefits?

[momof3]

momto4 said:

The people who didn't want a new HS should be happy to stay at WV or NV unless they are in a situation like Brookdale where that is a big split from the rest of their MS.

I always thought that situation would be mitigated when they opened the new MS and re-drew boundaries.

[doctorwho]

momof3 said:

momto4 said:

The people who didn't want a new HS should be happy to stay at WV or NV unless they are in a situation like Brookdale where that is a big split from the rest of their MS.

I always thought that situation would be mitigated when they opened the new MS and re-drew boundaries.

exactly - if it could be -- because of the odd shape of the district and the fact that a huge chunk of 203 Naperville North lies between Watts/Cowlishaw and Brookdale it makes it hard. From Aurora Ave to Ogden - quite the distance is 203. Both schools travel a good distance to Hill - however with Granger almost directly west of Hill - the placement is dubious to fix

Would be easy if the Sd was a perfect rectangle and the population was spread evenly - it just isn't the way it is.....I don't believe because of where Granger is located that Hill can be populated any other way than what it is today.

Now a southern site likely moves LW back with BD - and someone else out of WV to MV -- because MV would be the furthest school from LW.

[warriorpride]

macy said:

Ditto for my area... double hosed, in fact.

But yet, somehow we managed to get out the Yes vote... I'm not sure the support will be there in the future for requests for funding.

The referendum passed, and some stood to "gain" more than others, but all of 204 stood to gain by the reduced overcrowding.

The Op. referendum will be similarly black & white: pass it, and the schools continue to have all of the opportunities that they do today; don't pass it and things will be cut.

If people want to hold grudges because they feel they didn't benefit "enough" from where MV is built, that's there problem.

[warriorpride]

macy said:

bob said:

Maybe I am being too hard on Brookdale. They voted No and that's it. They were the minority but everyone's kids will get a benefit.

It is just a shame that they voted No overwhelmingly because they didn't like the boundaries. Fry and WE didn't want to leave NV but they still voted YES.

yes, but isn't it strange how politics works? One could think the school is being considered at AME to appease Brookdale.

I'm not sure I believe that, but, heck at this point it's a possibility.

That theory makes as little sense as humanly possible. How about it's one of the few parcels left in 204 that can hold an HS?

[rew]

BB is still there too and a few others...why is there nothing about them, only north?

[warriorpride]

rew said:

BB is still there too and a few others...why is there nothing about them, only north?

Well, BB or Calvary would have the original expected outcome of boundaries. Nothing to discuss there.

There was plenty analysis of potential boundaries, as well as discussions of the pros & cons of Macom (power lines, train tracks, roads, etc.) when it was a hot topic in the news.

Is there anything left to discuss RE a potential site? Ferry Rd? Bolingbrook?

[Arch]

I have no problems w/ Bolingbrook and no problems w/ Ferry Rd because it should be a decent enough distance away from the Peaker plant and electrical substation next to it. I also didn't have a problem with Wagner Farms from a site perspective. Boundaries of each is another matter and again this comes back to for me: that's what a bus is for. As long as each HS is on a site away enough from a power substation (that counts out AME and Macom) then I'll stick my kids on the bus to wherever it takes them.

[gatordog]

Another data point. This helps assess alternative plan that sends virtually all of Steck to north site.

I made the drive today from Steck, to the St John's sign. Left at 7:12 am and arrived at 7:21. 9 minute drive.

[doctorwho]

gatordog said:

Another data point. This helps assess alternative plan that sends virtually all of Steck to north site.

I made the drive today from Steck, to the St John's sign. Left at 7:12 am and arrived at 7:21. 9 minute drive.

9 minutes from there to there-- I wish you could have continued on to say Rickert and West streets inside Watts -- as that has to be 2 more times that distance- as well as all the lgihts-intersections on 59 & either aurora ave or ogden etc.

now make that a school bus with 8 - 10 stops and there is the travel time I am mentioning.

as I mentioned before bus to Hill is give or take 34-35 minutes 7:23 to just as the bell is ringing ( the bus has been late numerous times already - of course that may be because many times there are 3 kids to a seat on the bus and it takes a while to get them set at each stop) from my house and there are 3 or 4 stops before me. Add on the rest to AME and Houston, we have a problem.

[EagleDad]

Another benefit of a northern site - If you are a pitchfork salesman, you are going to make your annual sales quota in the first quarter.

[warriorpride]

doctorwho said:

gatordog said:

Another data point. This helps assess alternative plan that sends virtually all of Steck to north site.

I made the drive today from Steck, to the St John's sign. Left at 7:12 am and arrived at 7:21. 9 minute drive.

9 minutes from there to there-- I wish you could have continued on to say Rickert and West streets inside Watts -- as that has to be 2 more times that distance- as well as all the lgihts-intersections on 59 & either aurora ave or ogden etc.

now make that a school bus with 8 - 10 stops and there is the travel time I am mentioning.

as I mentioned before bus to Hill is give or take 34-35 minutes 7:23 to just as the bell is ringing ( the bus has been late numerous times already - of course that may be because many times there are 3 kids to a seat on the bus and it takes a while to get them set at each stop) from my house and there are 3 or 4 stops before me. Add on the rest to AME and Houston, we have a problem.

Dr - during the first week of school @ WV gold, my daughter's bus was arriving just about when the bell rang. She was totally stressed & felt that she couldn't even go to her locker before school started. I emailed the transportation contact person (available on the IPSD site) about my concerns. By the next week, they had adjusted their scheduled & she's been getting there typically 10 minutes before the bell.

While my experience dealing with bus transportation was a good one, I know that others may not have been so lucky. But, if my kid's bus was sitting 3 to a seat, or required an unusually early pickup, I'd try to explore options with the transportation folks. It seems to me that adding another bus may be warranted, which could also mean more reasonable pickup times and/or getting to school earlier.

[doctorwho]

warriorpride said:

doctorwho said:

9 minutes from there to there-- I wish you could have continued on to say Rickert and West streets inside Watts -- as that has to be 2 more times that distance- as well as all the lgihts-intersections on 59 & either aurora ave or ogden etc.

now make that a school bus with 8 - 10 stops and there is the travel time I am mentioning.

as I mentioned before bus to Hill is give or take 34-35 minutes 7:23 to just as the bell is ringing ( the bus has been late numerous times already - of course that may be because many times there are 3 kids to a seat on the bus and it takes a while to get them set at each stop) from my house and there are 3 or 4 stops before me. Add on the rest to AME and Houston, we have a problem.

Dr - during the first week of school @ WV gold, my daughter's bus was arriving just about when the bell rang. She was totally stressed & felt that she couldn't even go to her locker before school started. I emailed the transportation contact person (available on the IPSD site) about my concerns. By the next week, they had adjusted their scheduled & she's been getting there typically 10 minutes before the bell.

While my experience dealing with bus transportation was a good one, I know that others may not have been so lucky. But, if my kid's bus was sitting 3 to a seat, or required an unusually early pickup, I'd try to explore options with the transportation folks. It seems to me that adding another bus may be warranted, which could also mean more reasonable pickup times and/or getting to school earlier.

the school has been called by a number of parents -- the problem is for whatever reason 1 -2 of the stops varies greatly ( like by 6 - 10 kids) virtually daily -- so some days it is 2 to a seat and some days it is 3 all the way across --

again I believe being at the farthest end of Hills boundaries - they likely dont see how to add another bus over here

[warriorpride]

eagledad said:

Another benefit of a northern site - If you are a pitchfork salesman, you are going to make your annual sales quota in the first quarter.

ED - clearly you are strongly opposed to a northern site. Would you care to share your reasoning?

[warriorpride]

doctorwho said:

warriorpride said:

Dr - during the first week of school @ WV gold, my daughter's bus was arriving just about when the bell rang. She was totally stressed & felt that she couldn't even go to her locker before school started. I emailed the transportation contact person (available on the IPSD site) about my concerns. By the next week, they had adjusted their scheduled & she's been getting there typically 10 minutes before the bell.

While my experience dealing with bus transportation was a good one, I know that others may not have been so lucky. But, if my kid's bus was sitting 3 to a seat, or required an unusually early pickup, I'd try to explore options with the transportation folks. It seems to me that adding another bus may be warranted, which could also mean more reasonable pickup times and/or getting to school earlier.

the school has been called by a number of parents -- the problem is for whatever reason 1 -2 of the stops varies greatly ( like by 6 - 10 kids) virtually daily -- so some days it is 2 to a seat and some days it is 3 all the way across --
again I believe being at the farthest end of Hills boundaries - they likely dont see how to add another bus over here

It's probably due to before-school activities - at least at Granger, some of the extra-curricular music programs practice before school - and sometimes, sports teams practice before school - but, I'd like to think that the SD would account for the worst-case scenario, and not the best-case.

Personally, the "simple" solution would be to just literally add another bus. One picks up kids from point A to point B, and the other picks up kids from point B to point C.

[doctorwho]

warriorpride said:

doctorwho said:

the school has been called by a number of parents -- the problem is for whatever reason 1 -2 of the stops varies greatly ( like by 6 - 10 kids) virtually daily -- so some days it is 2 to a seat and some days it is 3 all the way across --
again I believe being at the farthest end of Hills boundaries - they likely dont see how to add another bus over here

It's probably due to before-school activities - at least at Granger, some of the extra-curricular music programs practice before school - and sometimes, sports teams practice before school - but, I'd like to think that the SD would account for the worst-case scenario, and not the best-case.

Personally, the "simple" solution would be to just literally add another bus. One picks up kids from point A to point B, and the other picks up kids from point B to point C.

I dont disagree, unfortunately people have complained and although they have adjusted some bus routes for Hill- ours wasnt one of them
3 kids in a seat with backpacks not comfortable nor safe --