Environmental Reports

[mandmmom]

brad204 said:

macy said:

I just reactivated my account based on something I read on the Sun blogs. I realize that what is posted there is 85% crap but this particular post hits home for me. I have an auto immune disease. I was diagnosed with a severe auto immune disease my freshman year of High School. To this day, I still fight the effects of this genetically passed disease. At the age of 14, I was diagnosed with Rheumatoid Arthritis. Trust me, it has been awful for me since that diagnosis. Yet, I am lucky. I have a wonderful Rheumatologist, have limited damage to joints and continue to have a positive attitude. I consider myself lucky. I've met many with my disease that are not as fortunate as I am.

My immune system is majorly comprimised. It has been since I was in high school. In fact, to fight this inherited disease, I take medication that further supresses my immune system.

I did some research on EMF levels and comprimised immune systems. I came across some information that said the risk for cancer for those with supressed immune systems with such exposure is 7-9 times more so (at EMF levels over .5) than those with normal immune systems.

I called my doctor today. He told me that I was correct to question EMF level exposure with increased cancer risk to auto immune patients. He said that he has been a part of studies linking such risk to rheumatology patients and would forward me anything he has.

Has anyone else hear researched what the risk (EMF LEVEL) is for auto immune disease kids?

And, please, give me a break... don't for one minute call me out as biased for boundaries.

If anyone questions my post, PM me. I'd be glad to provide my blood tests and medical information to prove what I'm saying.

How sad it's come to that.

I'm sure there will be many to label me as a lying person since I live in TG.

Read up on what I'm talking about. Then call me a "liar" only worried about boundaries. I know it is coming.

Macy let me be the first to say welcome back. That is an extremely interesting post.

You took the words right out of my mouth...Glad you are back. I am glad you brought this up. Maybe parents who have kids that have a compromised immune system will think twice about wanting to send their kids to the new HS if it is built on AME. There are so many negatives against this site. What are the positives, other than the piece of land is available?

[rural]

I think you will find the environmental report will ease your minds somewhat when you hear the results.

[mandmmom]

rural said:

I think you will find the environmental report will ease your minds somewhat when you hear the results.

I don't think my mind will ever be at ease with this location. Too many negatives and I would like to see a list of the positives, so maybe it could start outweighing the negatives...

[slp]

I heard that the pipeline spokesperson at the sb meeting said he knows of at least 10 to 15 schools in the Chicagoland area that are as close as or closer to pipelines than MV will be. I think his intention was to ease concerns with this statistic.

I find that extremely troubling considering there have to be thousands and thousands of schools in the Chicagoland area...why would we chose to be 1 of only 15 schools to build over pipelines? There must be a good reason why most schools are NOT built over pipelines.

FWIW, I am NOT a part of any group with this comment. Not pro or con, just pointing out something that seemed troubling to me.

[sushi]

Macy, I am truly sorry to hear of your health issues. Do the power lines in TG have any affect or do you live far from them?

[jwh]

mandmmom said:

rural said:

I think you will find the environmental report will ease your minds somewhat when you hear the results.

I don't think my mind will ever be at ease with this location. Too many negatives and I would like to see a list of the positives, so maybe it could start outweighing the negatives...

Well, maybe if you look over some of the facts presented at the meeting tonight, instead of theorizing about non-issues, you'll realize the site is much safer than what some have tried to have you believe.

[sushi]

slp, back in this thread (I think) where there is a link to the nationalpipeline or whatever, there are just not that many MAIN pipelines. Lots of feeders, everywhere, but not on the map. Obviously, they are feeding to every lot/building anywhere.

[macy]

brad204 said:

macy said:

I just reactivated my account based on something I read on the Sun blogs. I realize that what is posted there is 85% crap but this particular post hits home for me. I have an auto immune disease. I was diagnosed with a severe auto immune disease my freshman year of High School. To this day, I still fight the effects of this genetically passed disease. At the age of 14, I was diagnosed with Rheumatoid Arthritis. Trust me, it has been awful for me since that diagnosis. Yet, I am lucky. I have a wonderful Rheumatologist, have limited damage to joints and continue to have a positive attitude. I consider myself lucky. I've met many with my disease that are not as fortunate as I am.

My immune system is majorly comprimised. It has been since I was in high school. In fact, to fight this inherited disease, I take medication that further supresses my immune system.

I did some research on EMF levels and comprimised immune systems. I came across some information that said the risk for cancer for those with supressed immune systems with such exposure is 7-9 times more so (at EMF levels over .5) than those with normal immune systems.

I called my doctor today. He told me that I was correct to question EMF level exposure with increased cancer risk to auto immune patients. He said that he has been a part of studies linking such risk to rheumatology patients and would forward me anything he has.

Has anyone else hear researched what the risk (EMF LEVEL) is for auto immune disease kids?

And, please, give me a break... don't for one minute call me out as biased for boundaries.

If anyone questions my post, PM me. I'd be glad to provide my blood tests and medical information to prove what I'm saying.

How sad it's come to that.

I'm sure there will be many to label me as a lying person since I live in TG.

Read up on what I'm talking about. Then call me a "liar" only worried about boundaries. I know it is coming.

Macy let me be the first to say welcome back. That is an extremely interesting post.

Webe204,

look it up, do the research... I was never overly concerned with EMF exposure until I read the effects on children with auto-immune disease.

I'm very concerned over what I've recently discovered. It's become very personal to me. I'm sure many will call me selfish (I'm sure that of that). That seems to be what the general response is to anyone that calls into question the safety of the AME site.

ETA: Thanks for the welcome back webe204. You are a great person.

It's obvious there will be some that question my post. Bring it on. I will post any factual data from my doctor that support what I've said to a moderator that I trust.

[slp]

sushi said:

slp, back in this thread (I think) where there is a link to the nationalpipeline or whatever, there are just not that many MAIN pipelines. Lots of feeders, everywhere, but not on the map. Obviously, they are feeding to every lot/building anywhere.

Then what type of pipelines was their expert referring to for the 10 to 15 schools? Main pipelines? Is MV being built over main pipelines? Does this mean only 10-15 other schools are over main pipelines as opposed to smaller ones like the ones that feed into houses and buildings? Can someone shedd some light on this perhaps?

[macy]

rural said:

I think you will find the environmental report will ease your minds somewhat when you hear the results.

I will read the environmental report. Somehow, I'm a little doubtful that there will be as much detail to suppress my concerns.

[d204mom]

slp said:

I heard that the pipeline spokesperson at the sb meeting said he knows of at least 10 to 15 schools in the Chicagoland area that are as close as or closer to pipelines than MV will be. I think his intention was to ease concerns with this statistic.

I find that extremely troubling considering there have to be thousands and thousands of schools in the Chicagoland area...why would we chose to be 1 of only 15 schools to build over pipelines? There must be a good reason why most schools are NOT built over pipelines.

FWIW, I am NOT a part of any group with this comment. Not pro or con, just pointing out something that seemed troubling to me.

Deerfield High is one I'm sure. Not exactly comforting information.

[d204mom]

jwh said:

mandmmom said:

I don't think my mind will ever be at ease with this location. Too many negatives and I would like to see a list of the positives, so maybe it could start outweighing the negatives...

Well, maybe if you look over some of the facts presented at the meeting tonight, instead of theorizing about non-issues, you'll realize the site is much safer than what some have tried to have you believe.

A$$uming the "some" you are talking about is Metzger?

[macy]

sushi said:

Macy, I am truly sorry to hear of your health issues. Do the power lines in TG have any affect or do you live far from them?

Sushi,

I know you have been a major critic of the power lines in TG.

I appreciate your concern for all the TG kids. I don't think those power lines are any where near as concerning as those at the AME site.

Concerning the EMF levels in the TG subdivision, those levels are NOWHERE near those of the Midwest gen site. I appreciate your concern though.

Have you looked up the concerns for EMF exposure for the kids with auto immune disease? I have. I'm concerned.


ETA: Yes, there are electric lines in TG. Sushi has brought that fact up many times. Sushi, if you have concerns about the power lines in TG, please contact the city of Naperville for more information.

[JB]

slp said:

I heard that the pipeline spokesperson at the sb meeting said he knows of at least 10 to 15 schools in the Chicagoland area that are as close as or closer to pipelines than MV will be. I think his intention was to ease concerns with this statistic.

I find that extremely troubling considering there have to be thousands and thousands of schools in the Chicagoland area...why would we chose to be 1 of only 15 schools to build over pipelines? There must be a good reason why most schools are NOT built over pipelines.

FWIW, I am NOT a part of any group with this comment. Not pro or con, just pointing out something that seemed troubling to me.

Did he mention that you can't build schools over pipelines in California?

www.cde.ca.gov/ls/fa/sf/schoolsiteguide.asp#gas

Proximity to Pressurized Gas, Gasoline, or Sewer Pipeline
Education Code Section 17213 prohibits the acquisition of a school site by a school district if the site "contains one or more pipelines, situated underground or aboveground, which carries hazardous substances, acutely hazardous materials, or hazardous wastes, unless the pipeline is a natural gas line which is used only to supply natural gas to that school or neighborhood." Public Resources Code Section 21151.8 uses the same language with reference to approval of environmental impact reports or negative declarations. (See CCR, Title 5, Section 14010(h).)

[sushi]

Not a critic (think they're ugly) as much as wondering why others are critical of them when they in fact live under them.