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Post by sleeplessinnpvl on Mar 17, 2008 20:20:50 GMT -6
We have a "one call" law here in Illinois, so these things can't happen. This must be a misprint. This is a 2" pipe though. Small potatoes. Gas main break reported in Naperville Daily Herald staff reportPublished: 3/17/2008 4:57 PM | Updated: 3/17/2008 4:57 Construction crews accidentally severed a 2-inch gas line at 3:06 p.m. today along Naperville-Plainfield Road between Conan Doyle Road and 104th Street in Naperville. Naperville-Plainfield Road currently is closed in both directions between 95th Street to the north and 104th Street to the south. Nicor crews are on the scene and repairs are under way and expected to be completed by 6 p.m. Residents are advised to avoid the area until the road is reopened. I was wondering why that road was closed tonight. Thanks for the update.
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Post by doctorwho on Mar 17, 2008 20:28:54 GMT -6
For whatever good it has done, I have contacted our state representatives and senators regarding the site for MV. The need to hear from everyone about this issue and know how outraged we all are. La Chapa Via and Holmes office seem to express concern for this being a lousy site for a school, at least that was the impression I got. They want to be involved and know what is going on. I also heard that the Chicago Tribune will begin covering the story this week, according to Todd Andrews. I think that is good….I have heard that many others have also contacted them. Great, now the rest of IL will get to see how incompetent our SB is….maybe MM’s bullying days are coming to an end….. the state is already aware of what's going on here- when you file a condemnation suit it gets a lot of political attention - ask Emil Jones for his opinion.
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Post by Arch on Mar 17, 2008 21:07:16 GMT -6
Carlsbad, corrosion.... 12 dead (cooked actually) including kids... they were farther away than MV will be to the pipelines on the property.
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Post by momof156graders on Mar 18, 2008 8:15:27 GMT -6
quote author=proschool board=newhighschool thread=1205549975 post=1205555506]What is the history on the land directly south of the peaker plant?[/quote]
The land south of the peaker plant has land that is referred to as the "back 40" - a dumping ground basically for the peaker plant. How much was this regulated back in the day? I wonder what is under those large mounds of dirt there? Yesterdays pipeline problem in Naperville does not give me confidence that it is safe for kids to attend a half built school while the "big boxes" are completed. That means heavy construction equipment on site during school hours. Not only am I concerned with the construction safety, but what high school boys will see as an opportunity for thrill seeking. So many concerns......
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Post by specailneedsmom on Mar 26, 2008 9:03:02 GMT -6
I have a question for Arch, who seems to be the one who knows the most about this stuff. It is my understanding, after talking with the voluntary site remediation program at the Illinois EPA, that this parcel of land has not been enrolled in their voluntary program. The parties involved (204, MWGEN and AME) do not have to enroll in the program to build, but do have to enroll in the site remediation program (SRP) if they want to get an NFR letter (no further remediation). The gentleman I spoke with could not find the site in the database. He asked me for an address and I'm not sure there is an actual address yet so I had him search Eola Road and he checked all of Aurora and found nothing.
If the parties decide to enroll in the SRP, and it would look very bad if 204 tried to wiggle out of working with the EPA, the person I spokewith told me that depending on the contaminants that are found it could take six to nine months to do the clean up, at least.
So my question to Arch is do you think there is any way the district can bypass the site remediation program the EPA has and still build MV at that site? What do others think? The gentleman I spoke with on the phone was in Springfield in the voluntary site remediation program.
I am just trying to understand the process. It would seem that the district is trying to figure a way to wiggle out of the EPA process which would look very bad.
Thanks
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Post by doctorwho on Mar 26, 2008 9:08:25 GMT -6
I have a question for Arch, who seems to be the one who knows the most about this stuff. It is my understanding, after talking with the voluntary site remediation program at the Illinois EPA, that this parcel of land has not been enrolled in their voluntary program. The parties involved (204, MWGEN and AME) do not have to enroll in the program to build, but do have to enroll in the site remediation program (SRP) if they want to get an NFR letter (no further remediation). The gentleman I spoke with could not find the site in the database. He asked me for an address and I'm not sure there is an actual address yet so I had him search Eola Road and he checked all of Aurora and found nothing. If the parties decide to enroll in the SRP, and it would look very bad if 204 tried to wiggle out of working with the EPA, the person I spokewith told me that depending on the contaminants that are found it could take six to nine months to do the clean up, at least. So my question to Arch is do you think there is any way the district can bypass the site remediation program the EPA has and still build MV at that site? What do others think? The gentleman I spoke with on the phone was in Springfield in the voluntary site remediation program. I am just trying to understand the process. It would seem that the district is trying to figure a way to wiggle out of the EPA process which would look very bad. Thanks If it truly takes 6 - 24 months of being in the program to declare a site safe ( which makes sense to me) - yes they will have to find a way around it and spin it so that whatever we get sounds just as good. And this is with a state EPA considered as weak in legislation from all accounts I have read. This risk with our children is unacceptable
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Post by twhl on Mar 26, 2008 10:07:47 GMT -6
Like Dash says "build a fence around it" for some of it. That area wont have anyone near it.
Sort of like when residential contractors board off a back entrance that needs steps or a deck so they can get an occupancy permit. And then come back whenever............
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Post by cornholio on Mar 26, 2008 10:19:56 GMT -6
IL EPA BOL Inventory # 0438995001
Tie File # 1700-0007-7636
Midwest Generation LLC 5s171 Eola Rd Eola ,IL
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Post by Arch on Mar 26, 2008 10:21:39 GMT -6
Like Dash says "build a fence around it" for some of it. That area wont have anyone near it. Sort of like when residential contractors board off a back entrance that needs steps or a deck so they can get an occupancy permit. And then come back whenever............ I believe this is the 'loophole'. Build a physical barrier that sounds great on paper but is completely ineffective just to meet the letter of a regulation to move forward. Think of it as your dog taking a crap in the middle of the living room. Instead of cleaning it up and deodorizing/disinfecting the area you just throw a paper towel over it before company arrives and it sits there all steamy the entire time as you burn candle after candle to cover up the smell. Regardless of what you put around or on top of it, the crap is still there.
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Post by sleeplessinnpvl on Mar 26, 2008 10:22:49 GMT -6
IL EPA BOL Inventory # 0438995001 Tie File # 1700-0007-7636 Midwest Generation LLC 5s171 Eola Rd Eola ,IL Eola, IL? Is that why when other people called the EPA to check on it, they couldn't find it?
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Post by entitled on Mar 26, 2008 10:26:52 GMT -6
What was Linda Elmore's position during referendum? I seem to remember an Alderperson living in Stonebridge who was a NO supporter.
It seems it's OK to change your vote if the boundaries go your way, like with Springbrook.
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Post by casey on Mar 26, 2008 10:33:56 GMT -6
What was Linda Elmore's position during referendum? I seem to remember an Alderperson living in Stonebridge who was a NO supporter. It seems it's OK to change your vote if the boundaries go your way, like with Springbrook. Of course Linda Elmore is supportive of the new site. She is on record encouraging friends and neighbors to attend last night's meeting showing support. Wow! She didn't feel that love and support when it was supposed to be at BB. Hmmm.....
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Post by d204mom on Mar 26, 2008 10:40:11 GMT -6
What was Linda Elmore's position during referendum? I seem to remember an Alderperson living in Stonebridge who was a NO supporter. It seems it's OK to change your vote if the boundaries go your way, like with Springbrook. As I recall she put an opinion piece in the Oakhurst homeonwer's association newsletter advocating a NO! vote. Still looking.
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Post by cornholio on Mar 26, 2008 10:45:30 GMT -6
IL EPA BOL Inventory # 0438995001 Tie File # 1700-0007-7636 Midwest Generation LLC 5s171 Eola Rd Eola ,IL Eola, IL? Is that why when other people called the EPA to check on it, they couldn't find it? But still, the IL EPA doesn't have any record of a request for a NFR letter. That's exactly why a lot of people can't find it.
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Post by Arch on Mar 26, 2008 10:48:38 GMT -6
Historically, also look up Unicom, ComEd and Electric Junction.
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