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Post by Arch on Apr 16, 2008 15:03:11 GMT -6
twhl, I agree, it's hard to tell. I was trying to compare the 6's in the phone number and zip codes... but without a better scan it is inconclusive which number it really is.
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Post by doctorwho on Apr 16, 2008 15:07:12 GMT -6
Not a typo - a big whoops by the SB. Sorta like - "AT: we didn't have time to get an appraisal" and "CV's disclosure. They tried to buy the AME land in 05, 06, 07 without any dialog with MidGen. The copyright says 2007 and that labeling is proofed by many to overlook it. This was always the plan "B" they claim they never had. So when they could only negotiate part of the AME property they went to MidGen for the balance. Remember MidGen said the property was never on the market. Be curious to see (not really) if the same architect did plans similar for Macom and Hamman. Bet not - although they claim it was a comparative analysis. Or it was part of plan A and plan B was BB to get the $$ with A still on the table. (but a site switch would constitute a B&S  ) Boy, that would suck, eh? The dates and statements will matter... Either way, as Doc said.. get your checkbook ready. I don't know if this is the missing piece or not ( don't want to jump to that conclusion ) , but I can tell you I spent years as a corporate auditor for a major international corp. Usually you can always connect the dots in any series of transactions, no matter how complicated or convoluted. I was with a group on Sunday and I kept saying, something, somewhere is missing here. The falling over oneself headlong rush, throwing all caution to the wind, to open Fall 2009, even for this group, just doesn't add up. If this was a corporation then my first thought would be Dr D had a bonus riding on opening before x date, and maybe things would be compromised to make that clip level. But I do not believe his contract entails that - so that makes no sense. I have seen the some high level professionals do unnatural things to make an objective that had bonuses tied to them in my career. But it always unravels -- I'm not buying the overcrowding deal, because as others have said here, we've been here for how long, there is no critical incident for MS or HS attendance from 2008 to 2009. MS actually goes down and HS up by only about 200. Not life changing. Certainly 200 more kids will not cause 'split shifts' as that rumor was let out to the minions but it didn't fly far this time. There was a chart where some numerics were mixed - financial and true headcount where it would appear a huge jump in attendance district wide 08-09, but that was faulty and the reflection of that is above. Take the fact some things just basically ignored boundary wise and a site selection that even as they have admitted themselves previously makes little sense, especially from a way to fill it perspective -- toss in some over the top statements in the last 24 hours....and again 1 + 1 does not equal 2 here. So who knows if this is it, but something is not right. Say what you want about the SB members ( and I don't argue much at all any more) - but they are not stupid people. They are very smart... I hate to act like Oliver Stone but I keep waiting for that missing link to fill in the story line.... |
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Post by gman413 on Apr 16, 2008 15:11:42 GMT -6
It is possible in this copy and paste age that perhaps the whole title block of the dwg just didn't get updated
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Post by researching on Apr 16, 2008 15:17:59 GMT -6
It is possible in this copy and paste age that perhaps the whole title block of the dwg just didn't get updated Maybe. I doubt it. I think that BB knows about this and that is why they moved forward with their lawsuits. If that is the case, we're doomed. |
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Post by doctorwho on Apr 16, 2008 15:19:49 GMT -6
It is possible in this copy and paste age that perhaps the whole title block of the dwg just didn't get updated sure, which is why I have said nothing is conclusive -- need to wait and see the story behind it. All I have said it is has to be able to be explained away or else this district is in deep trouble financially. I udnerstand as of now we own AME, and soon a juidge might tell us we would also own BB - or some very severe judgement against us. I twill play out on it's own, people closer to it than any of us here will sort it out. |
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Post by Arch on Apr 16, 2008 15:37:46 GMT -6
I'm sure BB already contacted STR Partners who we were working with as early as spring 2005 for a list of sites they were to do plans for...
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Post by starfish on Apr 16, 2008 15:37:54 GMT -6
I think reading over the Delphi Technique once again would benefit all. You can google it. Here is an excerpt. The method works. It is very effective with parents, teachers, school children, and any community group. The "targets" rarely, if ever, know that they are being manipulated. Or, if they suspect this is happening, do not know how to end the process. The desired result is for group polarization, and for the facilitator to become accepted as a member of the group and group process (Dr. D. :  He will then throw the desired idea on the table and ask for opinions during discussion. Very soon his/her associates from the divided group begin to adopt the idea as if it were their own, and pressure the entire group to accept the proposition. This technique is a very unethical method of achieving consensus on a controversial topic. It requires well-trained professionals who deliberately escalate tension among group members, pitting one faction against the other, so as to make one viewpoint appear ridiculous so the other becomes "sensible" whether such is warranted or not. |
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Post by JB on Apr 16, 2008 15:42:04 GMT -6
We are in serious doo if the Brodie Count 2 sticks - it enjoins the district from using any ref funds for anything other than BB. What happens to our AME purchase then? The kicker is, they couldn't even use tort funds for this. Wonder if AME has a 30-day return policy if we keep the receipt. It is possible in this copy and paste age that perhaps the whole title block of the dwg just didn't get updated sure, which is why I have said nothing is conclusive -- need to wait and see the story behind it. All I have said it is has to be able to be explained away or else this district is in deep trouble financially. I udnerstand as of now we own AME, and soon a juidge might tell us we would also own BB - or some very severe judgement against us. I twill play out on it's own, people closer to it than any of us here will sort it out. |
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Post by cb on Apr 16, 2008 15:43:27 GMT -6
I think reading over the Delphi Technique once again would benefit all. You can google it. Here is an excerpt. The method works. It is very effective with parents, teachers, school children, and any community group. The "targets" rarely, if ever, know that they are being manipulated. Or, if they suspect this is happening, do not know how to end the process. The desired result is for group polarization, and for the facilitator to become accepted as a member of the group and group process (Dr. D. : He will then throw the desired idea on the table and ask for opinions during discussion. Very soon his/her associates from the divided group begin to adopt the idea as if it were their own, and pressure the entire group to accept the proposition. This technique is a very unethical method of achieving consensus on a controversial topic. It requires well-trained professionals who deliberately escalate tension among group members, pitting one faction against the other, so as to make one viewpoint appear ridiculous so the other becomes "sensible" whether such is warranted or not. They are not smart enough for this. |
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Post by starfish on Apr 16, 2008 15:48:54 GMT -6
I think reading over the Delphi Technique once again would benefit all. You can google it. Here is an excerpt. The method works. It is very effective with parents, teachers, school children, and any community group. The "targets" rarely, if ever, know that they are being manipulated. Or, if they suspect this is happening, do not know how to end the process. The desired result is for group polarization, and for the facilitator to become accepted as a member of the group and group process (Dr. D. : He will then throw the desired idea on the table and ask for opinions during discussion. Very soon his/her associates from the divided group begin to adopt the idea as if it were their own, and pressure the entire group to accept the proposition. This technique is a very unethical method of achieving consensus on a controversial topic. It requires well-trained professionals who deliberately escalate tension among group members, pitting one faction against the other, so as to make one viewpoint appear ridiculous so the other becomes "sensible" whether such is warranted or not. They are not smart enough for this. Google it and then see what you think - too similar to this situation. |
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Post by starfish on Apr 16, 2008 16:07:31 GMT -6
They hire someone who is trained like a Dr. D. to do this: The Delphi Technique is a calculated method some administrators (such as school superintendents), committees (such as a school committee or school building committee), group facilitators and special interest groups (some ballot question groups and less-than-honorable architectural firms) use to achieve "consensus." Through the use of the Delphi Technique and the promotion of an "us" vs "them" mentality among the citizens of a community, dissenting voices are identified, marginalized and discredited and the (often hidden) agendas of various groups and controlling individuals promoted. Here is a link: www.iror.org/delphi.asp |
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Post by researching on Apr 16, 2008 16:09:24 GMT -6
It is possible in this copy and paste age that perhaps the whole title block of the dwg just didn't get updated sure, which is why I have said nothing is conclusive -- need to wait and see the story behind it. All I have said it is has to be able to be explained away or else this district is in deep trouble financially. I udnerstand as of now we own AME, and soon a juidge might tell us we would also own BB - or some very severe judgement against us. I twill play out on it's own, people closer to it than any of us here will sort it out. Ok, if we weren't sure that the SB & Admin read this blog, it is obvious they do. If you look at the link to the offending document : ipsdweb.ipsd.org/Land/MvhsSitePlan.pdf note the change to the date. I saved the original with the unaltered date because I had a feeling they would do this. We actually handed them their excuse. Typo! Unbelievable! This is reaching new levels of manipulation every day! |
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Post by snerdley on Apr 16, 2008 16:14:53 GMT -6
They hire someone who is trained like a Dr. D. to do this: The Delphi Technique is a calculated method some administrators (such as school superintendents), committees (such as a school committee or school building committee), group facilitators and special interest groups (some ballot question groups and less-than-honorable architectural firms) use to achieve "consensus." Through the use of the Delphi Technique and the promotion of an "us" vs "them" mentality among the citizens of a community, dissenting voices are identified, marginalized and discredited and the (often hidden) agendas of various groups and controlling individuals promoted. Here is a link: www.iror.org/delphi.aspMaybe it worked with the Eskimos and the yaa-hoos, but I think us midwesterners are on to him!!! ;D |
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Post by macy on Apr 16, 2008 16:15:11 GMT -6
researching
I just pulled it up and it's 04/11/2007. Strange.
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Post by macy on Apr 16, 2008 16:16:11 GMT -6
They hire someone who is trained like a Dr. D. to do this: The Delphi Technique is a calculated method some administrators (such as school superintendents), committees (such as a school committee or school building committee), group facilitators and special interest groups (some ballot question groups and less-than-honorable architectural firms) use to achieve "consensus." Through the use of the Delphi Technique and the promotion of an "us" vs "them" mentality among the citizens of a community, dissenting voices are identified, marginalized and discredited and the (often hidden) agendas of various groups and controlling individuals promoted. Here is a link: www.iror.org/delphi.aspMaybe it worked with the Eskimos and the yaa-hoos, but I think us midwesterners are on to him!!! ;D Us "Big City" folk ain't buyin' it! |
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He will then throw the desired idea on the table and ask for opinions during discussion. Very soon his/her associates from the divided group begin to adopt the idea as if it were their own, and pressure the entire group to accept the proposition.