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Post by southsidemom on May 2, 2008 21:35:07 GMT -6
I wonder what they charge AME to hold services in the district. Wonder if the good reverend has worked out a deal for that end? Maybe they'll just take it off the bottom line of the $19M that we owe for that disaster of a site. I am sure there was a fee involved....nominal I would think. |
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Post by Arch on May 2, 2008 21:44:48 GMT -6
I asked you a fair question and you refuse to answer it with anything other than an evasive or a deflection. This parent understands what that mostly means when kids do it. It's about the same when adults do it too. There is no black and white on this issue as parents have the duty and responsibility of teaching their children how to behave. So if you are desparate for an answer, it is 53. Those that could not handle the situation were asked to leave. Simple. You and most parents, as George Bush says, 'misunderestimate' our youth. Thank you... 53 kids to how many adults in how big of a house? A large problem with many troops today are that there are a large number of children with behavioral 'difficulties' to put it nicely. Many have parents that are enroute from work and no one can just come pick them up before the meeting end-time if there is a problem. Parental involvement the past couple of years is also at an all time low from my wife's and mine observation. Her troop of 8 cadets has 100% parental involvement. They are at an age where behavior is never a problem anyway. Her brownie troop has 30 girls and parental involvement is next to NIL and her co-leader is also quiting. Lovely. This is why I suggested to her to insist on the parents funding the room rentals or throwing in the towel and taking our youngest daughter as a Juliette. |
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Post by ru4real on May 2, 2008 21:57:41 GMT -6
There is no black and white on this issue as parents have the duty and responsibility of teaching their children how to behave. So if you are desparate for an answer, it is 53. Those that could not handle the situation were asked to leave. Simple. You and most parents, as George Bush says, 'misunderestimate' our youth. Thank you... 53 kids to how many adults in how big of a house? A large problem with many troops today are that there are a large number of children with behavioral 'difficulties' to put it nicely. Many have parents that are enroute from work and no one can just come pick them up before the meeting end-time if there is a problem. Parental involvement the past couple of years is also at an all time low from my wife's and mine observation. Her troop of 8 cadets has 100% parental involvement. They are at an age where behavior is never a problem anyway. Her brownie troop has 30 girls and parental involvement is next to NIL and her co-leader is also quiting. Lovely. This is why I suggested to her to insist on the parents funding the room rentals or throwing in the towel and taking our youngest daughter as a Juliette. That's an easy one if you can figure it out |
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Post by Arch on May 2, 2008 22:02:31 GMT -6
Thank you... 53 kids to how many adults in how big of a house? A large problem with many troops today are that there are a large number of children with behavioral 'difficulties' to put it nicely. Many have parents that are enroute from work and no one can just come pick them up before the meeting end-time if there is a problem. Parental involvement the past couple of years is also at an all time low from my wife's and mine observation. Her troop of 8 cadets has 100% parental involvement. They are at an age where behavior is never a problem anyway. Her brownie troop has 30 girls and parental involvement is next to NIL and her co-leader is also quiting. Lovely. This is why I suggested to her to insist on the parents funding the room rentals or throwing in the towel and taking our youngest daughter as a Juliette. That's an easy one if you can figure it out Could be anything from 1 kid, 52 adults to 26 each plus you to 50 kids and three leaders, if I remember my scout:adult ratios. Big difference between the scenarios. |
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Post by ru4real on May 2, 2008 22:05:45 GMT -6
That's an easy one if you can figure it out Could be anything from 1 kid, 52 adults to 26 each plus you to 50 kids and three leaders, if I remember my scout:adult ratios. Big difference between the scenarios. It is all about expectations and making sure kids can behave and so can parents otherwise, double crow hop right out of the troup |
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Post by Arch on May 2, 2008 22:16:32 GMT -6
Could be anything from 1 kid, 52 adults to 26 each plus you to 50 kids and three leaders, if I remember my scout:adult ratios. Big difference between the scenarios. It is all about expectations and making sure kids can behave and so can parents otherwise, double crow hop right out of the troup Well, yes, the easy way out is to just give the boot to any 'troublemakers'. That's not always what's best for the girls who are because some can actually benefit greatly from the program and the behavioral stuff can and often does come around in time as evidenced by one cadet that probably would have had your boot to her backside as a brownie (based on your above criteria)... but is now working on her silver award with a passion. |
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Post by ru4real on May 2, 2008 22:20:46 GMT -6
It is all about expectations and making sure kids can behave and so can parents otherwise, double crow hop right out of the troup Well, yes, the easy way out is to just give the boot to any 'troublemakers'. That's not always what's best for the girls who are because some can actually benefit greatly from the program and the behavioral stuff can and often does come around in time as evidenced by one cadet that probably would have had your boot to her backside as a brownie (based on your above criteria)... but is now working on her silver award with a passion. I am all about working toward goals if the child and parent are serious about it... but there is no room any longer in this society for those parents not responsible enough to hold their kids accountable for their actions..,..period, harsh as it may seem |
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Post by Arch on May 2, 2008 22:31:26 GMT -6
Well, yes, the easy way out is to just give the boot to any 'troublemakers'. That's not always what's best for the girls who are because some can actually benefit greatly from the program and the behavioral stuff can and often does come around in time as evidenced by one cadet that probably would have had your boot to her backside as a brownie (based on your above criteria)... but is now working on her silver award with a passion. I am all about working toward goals if the child and parent are serious about it... but there is no room any longer in this society for those parents not responsible enough to hold their kids accountable for their actions..,..period, harsh as it may seem Well, as much as you think there is no room, the kids keep coming and coming. Would be nice to give the parents a pair of scissors and a cork, eh? |
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Post by ru4real on May 2, 2008 22:36:10 GMT -6
I am all about working toward goals if the child and parent are serious about it... but there is no room any longer in this society for those parents not responsible enough to hold their kids accountable for their actions..,..period, harsh as it may seem Well, as much as you think there is no room, the kids keep coming and coming. Would be nice to give the parents a pair of scissors and a cork, eh? Kids can keep coming and coming,,,well behaved kids that is...and parents who understand said definition... your opinion on behavior is clearly different and thus your posts very explainable |
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Post by we4 on May 3, 2008 14:58:48 GMT -6
Worst part is they always practice 'leave no trace' and try to leave the place better than when they got there (no cleanup crew ever required). [\quote] I know my brownie troop always swept the floor and wiped down the tables. The only thing left to do after we left the MPR was to move the tables. We did one year at my house and it was nuts. WE4 what was so nuts about it??? Just curious. I had lots to do last night and this morning so this is the first time I having been able to post. ru4real, it was nuts because I had a girl in the troop with a peanut allergy, plus I had two cats and a dog. In order to have the meeting I need to make sure all pets were away from the kids. Plus, peanut butter and jelly is a very common lunch in my house. I always wanted to make sure all areas of the kitchen and eating area were completely cleaned and free of peanut butter (especially on the chairs). And with having 3 other children, they needed to be doing something else. Meeting day was much more work having it in my house then having it at school. Oh, and I had 13-14 girls in my troop. Hopefully that answers your question. |
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