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Post by doctorwho on Dec 11, 2008 12:21:34 GMT -6
Gee, this must have been overlooked elsewhere  www.suburbanchicagonews.com/beaconnews/news/1323179,2_1_AU10_EOLASTUDY_S1.article maybe someone really does need to look at how "MVHS got placed in this ' new center of development " and as it says here- now those trucks can get off @ Eola instead of Rt 59 - great news for ton of 16 and 17 year old drivers we are throwing on the roads there -- add this to the fact that most of the kids live east of the tracks with the CN deal -- what a great set up  December 10, 2008 By DAN CAMPANA Staff Writer AURORA -- If a city-commissioned study sizing up the impact of a full Interstate 88-Eola Road interchange is on target, Aurora's economic landscape will be dramatically different by 2018. The addition of nearly 11,000 jobs and $1.4 billion economic impact to the region, as well as nearly $4.1 million in city tax revenues -- that's money into Aurora's coffers -- are projected to accompany the build-out of vacant land in the interchange corridor, according to consulting firm Gruen Gruen + Associates. Just building the long-sought interchange is expected to bring an influx of jobs and money to Aurora, the study reports. Entrances and exits at Eola have long been sought as a way to provide better access to the tollway, and, in turn, relieve the daily gridlock on Route 59. Illinois Tollway, DuPage County and Aurora officials announced earlier this year a framework to make it happen. Aurora aldermen will officially sign off on the agreement next week. The tollway board is set to advertise the entire $50 million project for bid at its Dec. 18 meeting. Construction could begin by April, but it's contingent on Aurora acquiring a total of 11 nearby properties, tollway spokesman Joelle McGinnis said. The city has closed on five and the purchase of the final six properties received the Finance Committee's OK Tuesday. A $7.1 million investment on interchange land is well worth it in the eyes of Aurora Economic Development Commission Director Sherman Jenkins. "We've got to invest in areas of the city where we can realize a return on our investment," Jenkins said. And that's happening despite the recession. "Everyone's gloom and doom, but the sun will come out," Jenkins said. The study, which cost Aurora about $5,300, makes a very clear distinction about what can happen with the interchange and what won't without it. By creating full access to Interstate 88 -- possibly by late 2009 or early 2010 -- Aurora would be able to attract 1.75 million square feet of offices and hotels by 2018 to an area unsuitable for such uses without an interchange, the study reports. That finding is based on uses seen at locations, such as Naperville Road, farther east off I-88.With no access to the tollway, the study argues, only 2 million feet of industrial or warehouse space is likely to appear by 2018. "You'll see farmland like you see now," Jenkins said. From Jenkins' perspective, seeing is believing for potential suitors who haven't started lining up since the June announcement that the interchange was closer to reality than ever before. The doubters ask: what's the benefit after so many years of talk? "The chatter's not where we want it yet," Jenkins said. "They won't believe it until they start seeing the construction." Aurora has attracted Freudenberg Household Products, makers of O-Cedar products, to a Diehl Road site in a deal that rebates property taxes. The City Council approved that project Tuesday. FHP would benefit from an Eola opening because trucks must trek to Route 59 until then. However, Jenkins notes FHP and the interchange might open close to one another.The investment is key. It will act as an incentive to prospective developers because of the infrastructure money it represents. That's where discussion will begin when someone asks about what Aurora will do to bring home a project. Jenkins is aware other incentives might be needed down the road, but it has not been something thought about in depth at this point. |
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Post by Arch on Dec 11, 2008 12:25:39 GMT -6
"It will never happen"..... I remember being told that when we brought it up a while ago..
I hope the other things brought up as future concerns don't ever happen... cuz we'd hate to be right about those too.
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Post by southsidesignmaker on Dec 11, 2008 20:02:23 GMT -6
Arch, you remember being told a while ago by who.
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Post by casey on Dec 11, 2008 20:59:41 GMT -6
Arch, you remember being told a while ago by who. Take your pick. We were all there as we heard it from MM, JC, JS, BG, AT, KB, DrD..... It was said numerous times that the interchange would never happen  . You know, that was supposed to happen many years ago and we're still waiting,etc. It was stated many times by many different individuals. I would think any single person that attended all those important boundary meetings would remember all those conversations about the interchange. I also remember certain groups of individuals being lambasted as they brought up future traffic concerns. They were the evil-sayers bringing up issues that would have no bearing. Remember, shortly after the boundaries were determined, Dr. D then started in on his whole traffic spiel and wanted to examine changing start times. How quickly we forget!  No matter what happens with MV, I hope the general public will always remember the whys/hows of how the 88/Eola location was selected. It was wrong then and is still very much wrong today. FWIW, maybe MM and the Mayor of Aurora worked out some deal to get rules passed stopping train whistles on the line. It is now supposedly a quiet zone from Plainfield all the way up. You know you would not want the sound from those whistles interrupting the HS. There'll already be enough traffic and truck noise from 88 and the newly populated truck detour on Eola ;D. |
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Post by southsidesignmaker on Dec 11, 2008 21:31:07 GMT -6
Easy there Casey, I was at most of the meetings between Jan and June. I don't remember anyone being called an evil doer, I do remember Dr D speaking about different start times. Noise issues from I88 will be minimal along with train whistles. Traffic on the other hand will have to be controlled, especially around the high school area.
I have noticed a lot of accusations regarding board members and elected officials of late. I will attribute these conspiracy theories to all that is going on in state politics.
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Post by Arch on Dec 11, 2008 23:32:02 GMT -6
SSSM,
Go search green or here for the posts. You'll see who said 'it will never happen'.
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Post by steckdad on Dec 12, 2008 1:16:23 GMT -6
Gee, this must have been overlooked elsewhere www.suburbanchicagonews.com/beaconnews/news/1323179,2_1_AU10_EOLASTUDY_S1.article maybe someone really does need to look at how "MVHS got placed in this ' new center of development " and as it says here- now those trucks can get off @ Eola instead of Rt 59 - great news for ton of 16 and 17 year old drivers we are throwing on the roads there -- add this to the fact that most of the kids live east of the tracks with the CN deal -- what a great set up December 10, 2008 By DAN CAMPANA Staff Writer AURORA -- If a city-commissioned study sizing up the impact of a full Interstate 88-Eola Road interchange is on target, Aurora's economic landscape will be dramatically different by 2018. The addition of nearly 11,000 jobs and $1.4 billion economic impact to the region, as well as nearly $4.1 million in city tax revenues -- that's money into Aurora's coffers -- are projected to accompany the build-out of vacant land in the interchange corridor, according to consulting firm Gruen Gruen + Associates. Just building the long-sought interchange is expected to bring an influx of jobs and money to Aurora, the study reports. Entrances and exits at Eola have long been sought as a way to provide better access to the tollway, and, in turn, relieve the daily gridlock on Route 59. Illinois Tollway, DuPage County and Aurora officials announced earlier this year a framework to make it happen. Aurora aldermen will officially sign off on the agreement next week. The tollway board is set to advertise the entire $50 million project for bid at its Dec. 18 meeting. Construction could begin by April, but it's contingent on Aurora acquiring a total of 11 nearby properties, tollway spokesman Joelle McGinnis said. The city has closed on five and the purchase of the final six properties received the Finance Committee's OK Tuesday. A $7.1 million investment on interchange land is well worth it in the eyes of Aurora Economic Development Commission Director Sherman Jenkins. "We've got to invest in areas of the city where we can realize a return on our investment," Jenkins said. And that's happening despite the recession. "Everyone's gloom and doom, but the sun will come out," Jenkins said. The study, which cost Aurora about $5,300, makes a very clear distinction about what can happen with the interchange and what won't without it. By creating full access to Interstate 88 -- possibly by late 2009 or early 2010 -- Aurora would be able to attract 1.75 million square feet of offices and hotels by 2018 to an area unsuitable for such uses without an interchange, the study reports. That finding is based on uses seen at locations, such as Naperville Road, farther east off I-88.With no access to the tollway, the study argues, only 2 million feet of industrial or warehouse space is likely to appear by 2018. "You'll see farmland like you see now," Jenkins said. From Jenkins' perspective, seeing is believing for potential suitors who haven't started lining up since the June announcement that the interchange was closer to reality than ever before. The doubters ask: what's the benefit after so many years of talk? "The chatter's not where we want it yet," Jenkins said. "They won't believe it until they start seeing the construction." Aurora has attracted Freudenberg Household Products, makers of O-Cedar products, to a Diehl Road site in a deal that rebates property taxes. The City Council approved that project Tuesday. FHP would benefit from an Eola opening because trucks must trek to Route 59 until then. However, Jenkins notes FHP and the interchange might open close to one another.The investment is key. It will act as an incentive to prospective developers because of the infrastructure money it represents. That's where discussion will begin when someone asks about what Aurora will do to bring home a project. Jenkins is aware other incentives might be needed down the road, but it has not been something thought about in depth at this point. yup...total death trap |
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Post by d204mom on Dec 12, 2008 1:21:47 GMT -6
Take your pick. Are we going to have to be more concerned about our kids getting to Metea safely or staying safe once there? I would say the site safety is still the most concerning.
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Post by doctorwho on Dec 12, 2008 1:24:12 GMT -6
Easy there Casey, I was at most of the meetings between Jan and June. I don't remember anyone being called an evil doer, I do remember Dr D speaking about different start times. Noise issues from I88 will be minimal along with train whistles. Traffic on the other hand will have to be controlled, especially around the high school area. I have noticed a lot of accusations regarding board members and elected officials of late. I will attribute these conspiracy theories to all that is going on in state politics. You'll find a lot of accusations about elected officials such as Linda Holmes elsewhere besides here SSSM. As far as here you'll see people wondering because: 1. some things that happened here just don't add up / 2. 'private/secret' meetings spoken of at times actually happened - and some of the chips on shoulders and area vs area controversies have been perpetuated by those elected - whether intended or not / 3. double-talk, use of excuses like 'can't people read what the ballot said' when the wording was used both ways by the same people ( before and after the vote) and in some cases flat out falsehoods will breed conspiracy theories -- this didn't just start because of Blago.....his type of politics has been alive and well in Illinois long before he was in office -- at all levels..... |
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Post by Arch on Dec 12, 2008 1:25:50 GMT -6
Change starts close to home...
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Post by doctorwho on Dec 12, 2008 1:33:12 GMT -6
Gee, this must have been overlooked elsewhere www.suburbanchicagonews.com/beaconnews/news/1323179,2_1_AU10_EOLASTUDY_S1.article maybe someone really does need to look at how "MVHS got placed in this ' new center of development " and as it says here- now those trucks can get off @ Eola instead of Rt 59 - great news for ton of 16 and 17 year old drivers we are throwing on the roads there -- add this to the fact that most of the kids live east of the tracks with the CN deal -- what a great set up December 10, 2008 By DAN CAMPANA Staff Writer AURORA -- If a city-commissioned study sizing up the impact of a full Interstate 88-Eola Road interchange is on target, Aurora's economic landscape will be dramatically different by 2018. The addition of nearly 11,000 jobs and $1.4 billion economic impact to the region, as well as nearly $4.1 million in city tax revenues -- that's money into Aurora's coffers -- are projected to accompany the build-out of vacant land in the interchange corridor, according to consulting firm Gruen Gruen + Associates. Just building the long-sought interchange is expected to bring an influx of jobs and money to Aurora, the study reports. Entrances and exits at Eola have long been sought as a way to provide better access to the tollway, and, in turn, relieve the daily gridlock on Route 59. Illinois Tollway, DuPage County and Aurora officials announced earlier this year a framework to make it happen. Aurora aldermen will officially sign off on the agreement next week. The tollway board is set to advertise the entire $50 million project for bid at its Dec. 18 meeting. Construction could begin by April, but it's contingent on Aurora acquiring a total of 11 nearby properties, tollway spokesman Joelle McGinnis said. The city has closed on five and the purchase of the final six properties received the Finance Committee's OK Tuesday. A $7.1 million investment on interchange land is well worth it in the eyes of Aurora Economic Development Commission Director Sherman Jenkins. "We've got to invest in areas of the city where we can realize a return on our investment," Jenkins said. And that's happening despite the recession. "Everyone's gloom and doom, but the sun will come out," Jenkins said. The study, which cost Aurora about $5,300, makes a very clear distinction about what can happen with the interchange and what won't without it. By creating full access to Interstate 88 -- possibly by late 2009 or early 2010 -- Aurora would be able to attract 1.75 million square feet of offices and hotels by 2018 to an area unsuitable for such uses without an interchange, the study reports. That finding is based on uses seen at locations, such as Naperville Road, farther east off I-88.With no access to the tollway, the study argues, only 2 million feet of industrial or warehouse space is likely to appear by 2018. "You'll see farmland like you see now," Jenkins said. From Jenkins' perspective, seeing is believing for potential suitors who haven't started lining up since the June announcement that the interchange was closer to reality than ever before. The doubters ask: what's the benefit after so many years of talk? "The chatter's not where we want it yet," Jenkins said. "They won't believe it until they start seeing the construction." Aurora has attracted Freudenberg Household Products, makers of O-Cedar products, to a Diehl Road site in a deal that rebates property taxes. The City Council approved that project Tuesday. FHP would benefit from an Eola opening because trucks must trek to Route 59 until then. However, Jenkins notes FHP and the interchange might open close to one another.The investment is key. It will act as an incentive to prospective developers because of the infrastructure money it represents. That's where discussion will begin when someone asks about what Aurora will do to bring home a project. Jenkins is aware other incentives might be needed down the road, but it has not been something thought about in depth at this point. yup...total death trap sorry but you add this to the issues already there and it is not good. Ask the insurance industry who says 1:2 16-17 year old has a traffic accident ( why we as parents pay thru the nose for insurance ) - and ask them what effect doubling or tripling a commute makes ( reason why car insurance rates have mileage cliplevels ) / what passing thru more railroad crossings and intersections proven dangerous already - and then add in traffic that will now increase significantly- especially heavy truck traffic. If you think this has no effect...you'd never make it as an underwriter. Yes, this increases odds of an accident - sorry. It was one reason Bruce Glawe worked to limit that the first time around - the second time nothing in Hell seems to matter, it just gets blown off, I really don't understand this view at all. |
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Post by doctorwho on Dec 12, 2008 1:43:04 GMT -6
Easy there Casey, I was at most of the meetings between Jan and June. I don't remember anyone being called an evil doer, I do remember Dr D speaking about different start times. Noise issues from I88 will be minimal along with train whistles. Traffic on the other hand will have to be controlled, especially around the high school area. I have noticed a lot of accusations regarding board members and elected officials of late. I will attribute these conspiracy theories to all that is going on in state politics. noise issues from 88 itself may not be much - but read the article, who is thrilled with being able to get off @ Eola instead of Rt 59 ? The truckers. Look at the aerial view of almost ALL the property just east of the school/tracks - what is it ? trucking firms. Who's going to 'control' that traffic ? Do you think we can bully trucking firms into not getting off on Eola between 7 AM and 4 PM ? One need look no further than the CN deal to know the answer to that. Also consider the north bound truck traffic headed for I88 - now they can avoid Rt59 and just load up on Eola as well. Add to that the plans here for hotels and more retail - I'm sorry, this location gets worse with each passing month...and it was wrong to begin with. The good news is I don't think it can get much worse... . There's a reason we didn't exactly have to fight for that property. |
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Post by Arch on Dec 12, 2008 6:23:28 GMT -6
Easy there Casey, I was at most of the meetings between Jan and June. I don't remember anyone being called an evil doer, I do remember Dr D speaking about different start times. Noise issues from I88 will be minimal along with train whistles. Traffic on the other hand will have to be controlled, especially around the high school area. I have noticed a lot of accusations regarding board members and elected officials of late. I will attribute these conspiracy theories to all that is going on in state politics. noise issues from 88 itself may not be much - but read the article, who is thrilled with being able to get off @ Eola instead of Rt 59 ? The truckers. Look at the aerial view of almost ALL the property just east of the school/tracks - what is it ? trucking firms. Who's going to 'control' that traffic ? Do you think we can bully trucking firms into not getting off on Eola between 7 AM and 4 PM ? One need look no further than the CN deal to know the answer to that. Also consider the north bound truck traffic headed for I88 - now they can avoid Rt59 and just load up on Eola as well. Add to that the plans here for hotels and more retail - I'm sorry, this location gets worse with each passing month...and it was wrong to begin with. The good news is I don't think it can get much worse... . There's a reason we didn't exactly have to fight for that property."Now, just how could little ole us have been so lucky to get that piece of property.. Hmm... I dunno.... with so many people beating down the doors wanting it, sitting just south of and adjacent to documented contaminated land.... Who could have ensured us that we get it? Oh, I don't know... Guess I'll have to take a stab in the DaaAAArrrrkkk.........."  |
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Post by twhl on Dec 12, 2008 7:58:38 GMT -6
The fact that this interchange was dead with no traction forever, then around the time of announcing the AMES purchase as a done deal, it not only resurfaced but received full support from any and everybody tells me the SB knew this was on the horizon but refused to share it with D204 to avoid opposition.
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Post by casey on Dec 12, 2008 8:16:30 GMT -6
The fact that this interchange was dead with no traction forever, then around the time of announcing the AMES purchase as a done deal, it not only resurfaced but received full support from any and everybody tells me the SB knew this was on the horizon but refused to share it with D204 to avoid opposition. You know, you're exactly right! And just think how King Metzger single-handedly changed the whole scope of Aurora. I'll give you our school at that location and we'll make the interchange deal happen. The King has all his serfs in place and they foolishly follow along with the deal. We're getting a school in a crazy location but hey, the city of Auroa thinks that they've won the lottery and they get an interchange to boot. I find it hard to believe that this wasn't orchestrated a long time ago. |
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. You know, that was supposed to happen many years ago and we're still waiting,etc. It was stated many times by many different individuals. I would think any single person that attended all those important boundary meetings would remember all those conversations about the interchange. 