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Post by Arch on Mar 12, 2009 17:15:25 GMT -6
Another view is that you are voting for someone you feel will make the best decisions for the whole district through his/her vote/voice on the board. If a candidate must recuse themselves from discussions and voting on certain teacher-related issues, would that not be a poor choice for the seat? Legally, must he? |
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Post by rural on Mar 12, 2009 18:46:33 GMT -6
So, is that what it boils down to? A technical more than an ethical issue?
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Post by Arch on Mar 12, 2009 19:28:02 GMT -6
So, is that what it boils down to? A technical more than an ethical issue? I'm just asking because I don't know.. I'd think someone like yourself would be more versed in the law than I am. |
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Post by rural on Mar 12, 2009 19:32:38 GMT -6
You flatter me, Arch. Truly, I don't have an answer for you. I'm sure it is addressed somewhere in the BM Handbook they get once they are elected (Is there such a thing?). My gut guess is that they would be required to recuse themselves from any vote or discussion where they would have a conflict of interest, but honestly, I'm not positive. ETA: Ethically, I would hope anyone with a conflict of interest would volunteer to stay out of votes and discussions.  |
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Post by Arch on Mar 12, 2009 19:37:51 GMT -6
You flatter me, Arch. Truly, I don't have an answer for you. I'm sure it is addressed somewhere in the BM Handbook they get once they are elected (Is there such a thing?). My gut guess is that they would be required to recuse themselves from any vote or discussion where they would have a conflict of interest, but honestly, I'm not positive. ETA: Ethically, I would hope anyone with a conflict of interest would volunteer to stay out of votes and discussions. Let's hope the newly elected ones can ratchet up the ethics. |
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Post by jimbob on Mar 12, 2009 19:39:04 GMT -6
I'll put down my bottle mometarily: www.irs.gov/instructions/i1023/ar03.htmlWhile there are likely state laws and the SD policy has been stated elsewhere, the IRS says 2. Financial Interest A person has a financial interest if the person has, directly or indirectly, through business, investment, or family: a. An ownership or investment interest in any entity with which the Organization has a transaction or arrangement, b. A compensation arrangement with the Organization or with any entity or individual with which the Organization has a transaction or arrangement, or c. A potential ownership or investment interest in, or compensation arrangement with, any entity or individual with which the Organization is negotiating a transaction or arrangement. Compensation includes direct and indirect remuneration as well as gifts or favors that are not insubstantial. A financial interest is not necessarily a conflict of interest. Under Article III, Section 2, a person who has a financial interest may have a conflict of interest only if the appropriate governing board or committee decides that a conflict of interest exists. |
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Post by jftb on Mar 16, 2009 14:47:19 GMT -6
Curious as to everyone's thoughts about this candidate's view on grandfathering in siblings... Seems to be a sports issue for him, IMO.
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Post by Arch on Mar 16, 2009 15:26:39 GMT -6
Curious as to everyone's thoughts about this candidate's view on grandfathering in siblings... Seems to be a sports issue for him, IMO. I see it more than a sports issue. It can be a logistical nightmare for parents if their kids are itrying to get the most out of their HS experience by being involved in clubs and what not.. and with sports I'm sure it's even more of an unnecessary headache. FWIW, I have 4 kids in 4 separate buildings this year. It's brutal juggling who goes to where and when for things. My wife and I would not have been able to pull it off if I worked downtown or traveled for a living. If the numbers allow for it, I don't see why a lot of people want to take the course of action to deny the option. |
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Post by doctorwho on Mar 16, 2009 17:02:39 GMT -6
Curious as to everyone's thoughts about this candidate's view on grandfathering in siblings... Seems to be a sports issue for him, IMO. It's 2 issues: 1/ the ability for a child to stay with their brothers or sisters and parents to have the opportunity to see their kids perfomr in sports/chorus/music etc. and 2/ an equal opportunity issue - those kids deserve the same opportunity as every other kid in the district whether that be academic or extra curricular. |
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Post by SouthernWolf on Mar 16, 2009 17:03:35 GMT -6
Curious as to everyone's thoughts about this candidate's view on grandfathering in siblings... Seems to be a sports issue for him, IMO. I see it more than a sports issue. It can be a logistical nightmare for parents if their kids are itrying to get the most out of their HS experience by being involved in clubs and what not.. and with sports I'm sure it's even more of an unnecessary headache. FWIW, I have 4 kids in 4 separate buildings this year. It's brutal juggling who goes to where and when for things. My wife and I would not have been able to pull it off if I worked downtown or traveled for a living. If the numbers allow for it, I don't see why a lot of people want to take the course of action to deny the option. Can any of your kids drive yet? That is my only potential salvation. I now work downtown AND I still travel quite a bit. I have 3 and its tough enough right now (luckily I only get the weekend duty for games/practices etc at this point). I dont know how we are going to do it when they get older and have more "stuff" unless the oldest drives to his stuff... We will only be in 3 different schools (E school, Middle School. HS) for just one year though. 4 different schools? Holy Cow |
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Post by treehugger on Mar 16, 2009 17:04:30 GMT -6
I think it opens a can of worms. I know for some people it is an inconvenience but I think it is an inconvenience, not a hardship. Granted, it is an inconvenience we don't choose, like having our kids in various clubs and sports activities, but it is not a hardship. I guess that's the line I would draw. Obviously others don't agree.
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Post by doctorwho on Mar 16, 2009 17:07:51 GMT -6
I think it opens a can of worms. I know for some people it is an inconvenience but I think it is an inconvenience, not a hardship. Granted, it is an inconvenience we don't choose, like having our kids in various clubs and sports activities, but it is not a hardship. I guess that's the line I would draw. Obviously others don't agree. For the parents it's absolutely an invonvenience - and for some wouldn't you call missing you child perform because you HAD to choose between one or the other a hardship. If not is's awful damn close. AS for athletic grandfathering - a kid who doesn't get the same opportunity as 90% of the other kids in the district - I'd call that a hardship by way of not being treated equally/fairly. the other thing about choosing other clubs etc- it was a choice - parents have no choice right now = that's a huge difference |
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Post by doctorwho on Mar 16, 2009 17:08:58 GMT -6
I see it more than a sports issue. It can be a logistical nightmare for parents if their kids are itrying to get the most out of their HS experience by being involved in clubs and what not.. and with sports I'm sure it's even more of an unnecessary headache. FWIW, I have 4 kids in 4 separate buildings this year. It's brutal juggling who goes to where and when for things. My wife and I would not have been able to pull it off if I worked downtown or traveled for a living. If the numbers allow for it, I don't see why a lot of people want to take the course of action to deny the option. Can any of your kids drive yet? That is my only potential salvation. I now work downtown AND I still travel quite a bit. I have 3 and its tough enough right now (luckily I only get the weekend duty for games/practices etc at this point). I dont know how we are going to do it when they get older and have more "stuff" unless the oldest drives to his stuff... We will only be in 3 different schools (E school, Middle School. HS) for just one year though. 4 different schools? Holy Cow some don't view that as a hardship - just buy them all cars - that'll solve it--- see how easy that was ?  |
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Post by SouthernWolf on Mar 16, 2009 17:21:10 GMT -6
Can any of your kids drive yet? That is my only potential salvation. I now work downtown AND I still travel quite a bit. I have 3 and its tough enough right now (luckily I only get the weekend duty for games/practices etc at this point). I dont know how we are going to do it when they get older and have more "stuff" unless the oldest drives to his stuff... We will only be in 3 different schools (E school, Middle School. HS) for just one year though. 4 different schools? Holy Cow some don't view that as a hardship - just buy them all cars - that'll solve it--- see how easy that was ? That is absolutely NOT what I was saying  I doubt everyone will be able to drive at the same time anyway, so that doesnt really work. What I am saying is that if one can drive and folks were able to work out the financials of a used (but safe) car and the dreaded insurance; it could be a pressure valve release for the crammed schedules. Many of the practices etc. etc. most parents are ok with skiping. they want to see the games/meets/recitals/concerts etc etc. |
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Post by SouthernWolf on Mar 16, 2009 17:25:38 GMT -6
Can any of your kids drive yet? That is my only potential salvation. I now work downtown AND I still travel quite a bit. I have 3 and its tough enough right now (luckily I only get the weekend duty for games/practices etc at this point). I dont know how we are going to do it when they get older and have more "stuff" unless the oldest drives to his stuff... We will only be in 3 different schools (E school, Middle School. HS) for just one year though. 4 different schools? Holy Cow some don't view that as a hardship - just buy them all cars - that'll solve it--- see how easy that was ? But, yes If I can afford it when the time comes...I think the trade off would be worth it to get a 3rd (used but safe) car. helps with the scheduling PLUS...I can have him do lots of other errands which would be helpful as well. Granted this is not the berst economy to be jumping into a major purchase.  |
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I doubt everyone will be able to drive at the same time anyway, so that doesnt really work. What I am saying is that if one can drive and folks were able to work out the financials of a used (but safe) car and the dreaded insurance; it could be a pressure valve release for the crammed schedules. Many of the practices etc. etc. most parents are ok with skiping. they want to see the games/meets/recitals/concerts etc etc.