sardines
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Post by sardines on Jul 11, 2009 7:33:42 GMT -6
I think that is the role of the "transferees" from NVHS to WVHS, researching, to make it right. For years WVHS parents have said their facilities were not up to par with NVHS, and they were told by the district it was all perception. The current set of parents moving from one school to another should demand any and all inequities be remedied. The district will not be able to brush them off. They will know by fact. Rew, I totally agree! These people will know better than anyone what the important differences are!I personally don't think that because something is older that it is sub par but I do think important omissions or operational inequities are! I know for a fact that recently some "sqeaky wheels" went straight to the district (and cc'd the principal) to get the WV indoor Warrior Wear store and Freshmen Baseball dugouts built. They have recently been completed.These have been obvious omissions since NV was built in 1997. I'm not sure why noone demanded these before now... The district made a HUGE mistake(I know, one of MANY:) when they built NV with an over the top design and bells and whistles . Somebody got carried away and didn't look at the big picture... I think that is why MV looks very plain and straightforward. It is up to us to be observant and practical when pointing out differences. No two schools (or three) will ever be the same and that is what makes them unique. But if one school is blatantly missing something long term that the others have, we need to act until it gets done. While I am disappointed that my kids are stuck in the middle of these transition years with all of this, I do think that having the three schools will be good for the all of the kids coming up in the future.
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Post by researching on Jul 11, 2009 8:31:05 GMT -6
So if you find inequities you need to go straight to the district to get it done, NOT the WV Principal? Well that does make sense given the defensive and ineffective responses I have received from her to date. I don't think that is her preferred order of operations though.
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Post by rew on Jul 11, 2009 9:41:58 GMT -6
You do what you have to to get the job done.
WV's principal and NV's principal were hired by Dash. Dash was not responsive to parents and I'm sure it is a leadership style he encouraged in his new hires. While I have found Pricipal Mc Bride to be personable in person, my experience with him is he does not respond to emails.
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Post by slp on Jul 11, 2009 9:56:13 GMT -6
I thought I read here that WV would be packed for the next two years? so sharing lockers should not be a surprise..... It IS a surprise to me. My kids have been at the most crowded middle school for 3 years and never shared lockers there.
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Post by steckdad on Jul 11, 2009 10:05:55 GMT -6
I thought I read here that WV would be packed for the next two years? so sharing lockers should not be a surprise..... It is a surprise given how much money the district collects from the taxpayers.... and given that we just spent (and are still spending) how much for a new high school? No one ever heard of www.buyusedlockers.com ? Another simple solution that was mentioned since Feb 2008: Send more kids to MV like Steck and/or McCarty area and then no one needs to share a locker at WVHS. spend money or save money? which one is it?
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Post by Arch on Jul 11, 2009 10:44:04 GMT -6
It is a surprise given how much money the district collects from the taxpayers.... and given that we just spent (and are still spending) how much for a new high school? No one ever heard of www.buyusedlockers.com ? Another simple solution that was mentioned since Feb 2008: Send more kids to MV like Steck and/or McCarty area and then no one needs to share a locker at WVHS. spend money or save money? which one is it? Treat the kids equally. Either by buying what needs bought or by utilizing the resources we have in a more equally balanced way. Hard concept to grasp, I admit. I can see why it gives you trouble and confusion.
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Post by steckdad on Jul 11, 2009 10:50:31 GMT -6
spend money or save money? which one is it? Treat the kids equally. Either by buying what needs bought or by utilizing the resources we have in a more equally balanced way. Hard concept to grasp, I admit. I can see why it gives you trouble and confusion. your post confused me, not a concept.
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Post by researching on Jul 11, 2009 10:50:44 GMT -6
You do what you have to to get the job done. WV's principal and NV's principal were hired by Dash. Dash was not responsive to parents and I'm sure it is a leadership style he encouraged in his new hires. While I have found Pricipal Mc Bride to be personable in person, my experience with him is he does not respond to emails. I am with you on doing what you have to to get it done. I also agree that Dr. D set a HORRIBLE examle of how to deal with parents. I think that example has set a trend among the administration districtwide. I don't know what to expect from KB now that she has the helm. I am worried because in the last 3 years of asking questions and making suggestions in this district, KB has NEVER ONCE responded to my emails. I have heard from just about everyone else. I haven't had need to get a response from McBride so I haven't had that experience. I guess what impressed me about him is that he has made some changes, some popular and some not, that were long overdue IMO. One example is the dance policy. While unpopular to many kids and some parents, it was a welcome change to me. I do believe they need to find a happy medium but I'll take strict over sex in the middle of the dance floor any day.
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Post by researching on Jul 11, 2009 10:54:49 GMT -6
I thought I read here that WV would be packed for the next two years? so sharing lockers should not be a surprise..... It IS a surprise to me. My kids have been at the most crowded middle school for 3 years and never shared lockers there. Sadly it WASN'T a surprise to me. Myself and many other Class of 2012 parents have been saying all along how overcrowded WV will be this fall. That is part of the frustration. Our kids got to go to the MOST overcrowded MS, the first with the modulars, and will now go to the MOST overcrowded HS of 3. All while the district sells a load of BS about alleviating overcrowding. I guess we are just too "entitled" to be considered.
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Post by Arch on Jul 11, 2009 10:55:53 GMT -6
Treat the kids equally. Either by buying what needs bought or by utilizing the resources we have in a more equally balanced way. Hard concept to grasp, I admit. I can see why it gives you trouble and confusion. your post confused me, not a concept. Spending X million to expedite a half completed school, but can't buy temporary lockers to ensure each kid has one at another school. Here's a concept: Open a completed school next year (2010) and make sure everyone has a locker (and complete facilities) this year... and save some money in the process... Unless lockers cost X millions of dollars to make up the locker to student ratio deficit. How many kids are we talking about here? OR... If there is a problem of too many students at WVHS for the 09/10 year, send some north to MV which will be under-utilized in comparison.
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Post by rew on Jul 11, 2009 12:33:27 GMT -6
That is in an interesting concept, send the fresh and sophs from Steck and McCarty to MV to relieve overcrowding at WV. It is not asking of those families anymore than it is asking of half the rest of the district. Why wasn't it considered?
Dumb question.
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Post by asmodeus on Jul 11, 2009 13:38:09 GMT -6
What was the population of the student body of WV in the year prior to the opening of NV? More or less than it is going to be this year? And did the kids share lockers then?
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Post by proschool on Jul 11, 2009 13:46:10 GMT -6
Send ALL the freshmen from WV to MV.
The freshmen at WV will be a small minority anyway. I wouln't want my freshman at an overcrowded school that is dominated by upperclassmen, especailly when they are the only freshmen in the district who need to deal with upperclassmen at all.
I think that the WV/NV gold campus idea was out the window last year. NV Gold kids are at WV next year. WV Goldkids are at MV next year.
Would the district have somewhere to put the rented lockers at WV next yearif they rented them? If so, how about if they installed some of the MV lockers at WV next year and moved them to MV when they need them.
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Post by kidsfirst on Jul 11, 2009 15:20:01 GMT -6
It IS a surprise to me. My kids have been at the most crowded middle school for 3 years and never shared lockers there. Wow, I just assumed that since my MS'er was sharing lockers for 2 out of her 3 years in MS at a not-so-crowded MS that for sure the Scullen kids would be sharing. Must have been the design in the newer MS's to add more lockers? It's too bad they can't just make the older kids share since they don't use their lockers that much anyway. I'm sure that wouldn't go over well but it would seem less of a calamity to the poor incoming freshman class. And where DO you add more lockers to WV that wouldn't disrupt traffic flow and make the school seem even more crowded?
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Post by doctorwho on Jul 11, 2009 22:57:14 GMT -6
It IS a surprise to me. My kids have been at the most crowded middle school for 3 years and never shared lockers there. Sadly it WASN'T a surprise to me. Myself and many other Class of 2012 parents have been saying all along how overcrowded WV will be this fall. That is part of the frustration. Our kids got to go to the MOST overcrowded MS, the first with the modulars, and will now go to the MOST overcrowded HS of 3. All while the district sells a load of BS about alleviating overcrowding. I guess we are just too "entitled" to be considered. other option- you could be shipped off to 1/2 a high school ,,,,, ash canning the freshman center instead of building a 7th MS ( instead of 3000 HS seats) is the problem
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