CV Speaks!!!

[proschool]

blankcheck said:

I looked through the minutes from the board meeting and there was nothing mentioned.

I might add-I agree that Macom has their motivation - to sell houses as they always have. The flip side though is that why would the referendum committees accept $$$ from them to support their campaign knowing that Macom is in the business to develope areas and build more house? Someone explain

Land acquisitions and personell matters are discussed in executive session away from the public eye. I believ that that is at the end minutes to all the the meetings.

[wvhsparent]

proschool said:

blankcheck said:

I looked through the minutes from the board meeting and there was nothing mentioned.

I might add-I agree that Macom has their motivation - to sell houses as they always have. The flip side though is that why would the referendum committees accept $$$ from them to support their campaign knowing that Macom is in the business to develope areas and build more house? Someone explain

Land acquisitions and personell matters are discussed in executive session away from the public eye. I believ that that is at the end minutes to all the the meetings.

Which is fine. But as soon as they reject it, they should then put it on record, for the public consumption. would have been a good PR move on their part. Then again they are not know for their PR Savvy.

[chicoryowl]

eagledad said:

Bingo - Right on schedule! According to the script, we will have a Letter to the Editor by either Bob Swininoga, or George Vickers in the next 4 days as a follow-up.

This really is predictable. Isn't Paul White also part of the LTE crew?

[bob]

I wonder if Macom cut a deal with CFO and is going to throw money to CFO and CFO candidates. If 3 CFO candidates get elected, they can change the boundaries to get his subdivision into NVHS and moving someone back to WVHS and someone new into MVHS.

[EagleDad]

So here's what I'm struggling with, and I was hoping that someone who is a proponent of the Macom property can help me out. So stick with me for a second.

First, let's make these assumptions (I'm not stating them as fact just laying them as groundwork for my question):
1. The BB property is seen as the more ideal land, due to layout, accessibility, location in the district, and size match of 80 acres in a nice rectangular chunk.
2. 25 acres of BB already have been purchased.
3. A certain investment, say for arguments sake $750K and 6 months time have already been made in BB that would need to be made again in any other property to get to the same point.

OK, now those said, the Macom offer comes along. Let's assume for a second that it's all on the level, for 95 acres.

Here's my question:
Propose exactly what you would expect the district to do about it. What exact and finite steps would you expect them to take as it pertains to both BB and the Macom land.

Because here's my dilemma. Even if Macom is a great piece of land and the offer is on the up and up (although we already know there's a few problems with it), what do you actually do about it?

I would say sit on it and keep it in the back pocket as option #2. Maybe keep back room discussions going with Macom. I don't think you can actually proceed doing anything with it. You can't reinvest the design fees again, you can't negotiate a price, and you certainly can't walk away from BB until it's settled with this much into it and being close to closure.

I just truly don't know what people would expect the SB to do. Even George Christine Vickers doesn't really propose any concrete course of action in her public foray of being a visionary. All she says is what not to do (dismiss it). So what could actually be done, and how far could you reallly go with it? Give me a reasonable proposal of what could be done here, because I'm struggling with it myself.

[bubbagump]

ED.
Everything you just stated makes great sense. However it appears that the SD already rejected the proposal, hence Macom's coming forward. I would assume if they were still dealing with him as a "plan B", He would not have announced anything. That does not seem to be the case.
Personally - I think the Macom site is too far south. Of the 2 sites BB is better.

[blankcheck]

If you look at Illinios committee detail reports you will find:
1) Citizens for continued excellence (the 2001 referendum for teacher salaries & freshman campus) Macom donated $10,000.
2) Citizens for classrooms (the 2005 referendum which failed) Macom donated $10,000.

Why would you accept money from a developer who will only bring more students into the area?

[proschool]

blankcheck said:

If you look at Illinios committee detail reports you will find:
1) Citizens for continued excellence (the 2001 referendum for teacher salaries & freshman campus) Macom donated $10,000.
2) Citizens for classrooms (the 2005 referendum which failed) Macom donated $10,000.

Why would you accept money from a developer who will only bring more students into the area?

Because he should support the builing of schools that are needed for hid develpment. I expect the developer to support the referenda.

[bob]

blankcheck said:

If you look at Illinios committee detail reports you will find:
1) Citizens for continued excellence (the 2001 referendum for teacher salaries & freshman campus) Macom donated $10,000.
2) Citizens for classrooms (the 2005 referendum which failed) Macom donated $10,000.

Why would you accept money from a developer who will only bring more students into the area?

Your original quote said that the Referendum Committee took money from Macom. Are you saying now that the SD204 Referendum Committee DID NOT take money from Macom? There is a big difference between a PAC and a SD's committee.

[blankcheck]

I'm not sure what you mean by a PAC committee? All I am saying is that the Pro-referendum committees (Citizens for Excellence and Citizens for classrooms it appears (through the campaign disclosure statements) accepted donations of $10,000 from Macom for each of those referendum campaigns.

Why?

[proschool]

blankcheck said:

I'm not sure what you mean by a PAC committee? All I am saying is that the Pro-referendum committees (Citizens for Excellence and Citizens for classrooms it appears (through the campaign disclosure statements) accepted donations of $10,000 from Macom for each of those referendum campaigns.

Why?

I think everyone knows that the Pro-referendum committees collected money to support the referendum.

[warriorpride]

blankcheck said:

I'm not sure what you mean by a PAC committee? All I am saying is that the Pro-referendum committees (Citizens for Excellence and Citizens for classrooms it appears (through the campaign disclosure statements) accepted donations of $10,000 from Macom for each of those referendum campaigns.

Why?

How about this: it would be much easier for Macom to sell houses within an SD that didn't have overcrowding?

[movingforward]

blankcheck said:

I might add-I agree that Macom has their motivation - to sell houses as they always have.

Blank check, You just posted in a current thread about the Macom ad stating that you 'didn't get it' .... about why people are upset with Macom for making his 'offer'.....you answered it above not too long ago.

It is because the guy wants to sell HOUSES. His bottom line and 100% of his motivation is for self-serving purposes. If Ashwood was selling we would never have seen or heard of him.

p.s. I think 'ric' is Paul Lehman