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Post by kae on Jul 13, 2007 9:15:59 GMT -6
I don't trust the SB. It appears that they (the SB) will say anything in order to get my vote. Am I upset at anything they do? Well, not every part of anything, but when it comes to construction or education funding I'm skeptical because of their past behavior. Are you upset with the finished product and the education that comes from the facilities and the faculty or just the price tag? This is getting off the topic, but since you're the moderator, I'll answer it here. I will point out that all of these have been talked about in other topics on the board before, so I'm going to be repeating myself, but I'll be succinct: Everyday Math: badFaculty (i.e. teachers only): goodSchool District Administration: badSchool Board: badSchool Administration and School Board Decisions: badSchool District Spending is out of control: bad |
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Post by kae on Jul 13, 2007 9:19:33 GMT -6
Doctorwho, Maybe the zing of asking for Additional gym NVHS $1.0M in a total 109.5 million referendum was just way too painful. I mean, .91% of the entire 2001 building referendum must have just sent ripples through the district; the pains of which are still fresh and sore on everyone's tax bill today. I wonder just how much that 1.0 M really added to everyone's tax bill. Maybe 1 cup of coffee, if even? It's the part I don't get. I was here for that also. I am a taxpayer who did not get to use the extra gym at NV -- in the grand scheme of things - so what ? If they scrimp on a school they get criticized , if they overbuild they get criticized -- Is it the same SB that was here for NV - 5/7 of that answer is no. For some the SB will be wrong whatever they do....makes no difference And for some the SB will be right whatever they do...makes no difference. I just thought I would finish that phrase. |
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Post by bob on Jul 13, 2007 9:23:27 GMT -6
Is it the same SB that was here for NV - 5/7 of that answer is no. Correct but on the same hand, one of the 2 that were is now Prez. And was voted in by large margin of voters. The President's vote counts once just like the other SB members. What great powers does the PotSB have? |
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Post by Arch on Jul 13, 2007 9:24:14 GMT -6
Kae,
You're right. It is a bit off topic now. Sorry. Thanks for answering though.
I have to say though, the rankings of the high schools, the awards they've won and where the kids have subsequently gone onto college has to count for something. Maybe we just look at the situation differently.
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Post by bob on Jul 13, 2007 9:25:14 GMT -6
And for some the SB will be right whatever they do...makes no difference. I just thought I would finish that phrase. I don't think there is anyone here, has agreed with the SB 100%. |
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Post by kae on Jul 13, 2007 9:32:50 GMT -6
And for some the SB will be right whatever they do...makes no difference. I just thought I would finish that phrase. I don't think there is anyone here, has agreed with the SB 100%. Exactly! Just as there isn't anyone here that has disagreed with the SB 100%. Seems like a lot of statements that just don't mean anything. |
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Post by wvhsparent on Jul 13, 2007 9:32:51 GMT -6
Is it the same SB that was here for NV - 5/7 of that answer is no. Correct but on the same hand, one of the 2 that were is now Prez. And was voted in by large margin of voters. The President's vote counts once just like the other SB members. What great powers does the PotSB have? who voted........I don't remember what the total % was of the registered voters. I would not call his reelection a "mandate". Also there were no real alternatives. (lesser of evils) But that is my opinion. Prez, while only 1 vote, decides the direction of the SB meeting, what makes it in or not, decides when a discussion/topic is over and have the rest move on to "other business", and I am sure a few other things.... Can you tell I am not one of his Fans anymore? |
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Post by Arch on Jul 13, 2007 9:39:57 GMT -6
And was voted in by large margin of voters. The President's vote counts once just like the other SB members. What great powers does the PotSB have? who voted........I don't remember what the total % was of the registered voters. I would not call his reelection a "mandate". Also there were no real alternatives. (lesser of evils) But that is my opinion. Prez, while only 1 vote, decides the direction of the SB meeting, what makes it in or not, decides when a discussion/topic is over and have the rest move on to "other business", and I am sure a few other things.... Can you tell I am not one of his Fans anymore? I thought anyone could make a motion and have someone else (non president) second it, etc. Do they not follow Parliamentary Procedures? |
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Post by doctorwho on Jul 13, 2007 9:40:22 GMT -6
It's the part I don't get. I was here for that also. I am a taxpayer who did not get to use the extra gym at NV -- in the grand scheme of things - so what ? If they scrimp on a school they get criticized , if they overbuild they get criticized -- Is it the same SB that was here for NV - 5/7 of that answer is no. For some the SB will be wrong whatever they do....makes no difference And for some the SB will be right whatever they do...makes no difference. I just thought I would finish that phrase. I have yet to meet anyone who thinks everything they have done is correct... there have been plenty of mistakes, but one has to give someone ( especially a changing entity of 7 people) room to learn and grow also. Are we in this situation now because the SB underestimated the voting public before the 1st referendum vote - you bet. Whether one wants to say that was arrogance or lack of understanding or overconfidence - none of them are good and the blame for failure lies squarely in their court ( and any one who would have voted but didn't). Did they try and rush thru the early start for schools without enough input and review - yes. They are human and make mistakes - but it's hard to blame 5 of them for something that happened 10 years ago when they were not on the SB. And it seems like they are wrong before they finish speaking to some...and while that is anyone's perogative to that opinion, it doesn't make it fact. |
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Post by doctorwho on Jul 13, 2007 9:41:55 GMT -6
Are you upset with the finished product and the education that comes from the facilities and the faculty or just the price tag? This is getting off the topic, but since you're the moderator, I'll answer it here. I will point out that all of these have been talked about in other topics on the board before, so I'm going to be repeating myself, but I'll be succinct: Everyday Math: badFaculty (i.e. teachers only): goodSchool District Administration: badSchool Board: badSchool Administration and School Board Decisions: badSchool District Spending is out of control: badon the spending I have a question - we are one of the lowest cost per student districts in the area - can you give further info that shows their spending is out of control ? |
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Post by blankcheck on Jul 13, 2007 9:44:17 GMT -6
I agree WVHSparent - I'm not a big fan either especially after his comments in the paper yesterday. The voters voted 124M for this project. As far as I'm concerned, that is what we voted for. We will have to see if they can live up to the comment about not going back to the taxpayers for more money to build the school. IMHO-I don't think that will happen - but again arch, that is pure speculation on my part based on past history.
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Post by kae on Jul 13, 2007 9:52:30 GMT -6
Members of the School Board come and go as they are voted in or re-elected and either resign or their terms expire. School District Administrators come and go as well. Tax payers can only vote for SB members that run and I have never seen a SB member "fired".
In any case, the SB members leave their mark just as the School District Administrators. The ones that are left either reap the rewards or are left to clean up the mess.
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Post by Arch on Jul 13, 2007 9:58:42 GMT -6
In any case, the SB members leave their mark just as the School District Administrators. The ones that are left either reap the rewards or are left to clean up the mess. Likewise, anyone who wishes to who meets the not-so stringent requirements can run for such a position to show them the light and make it all better. |
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Post by bob on Jul 13, 2007 10:09:45 GMT -6
Everyday Math: Who on the SB is in charge of curriculum changes?
To say that every principal and admin is bad is using a pretty broad brush.
How is spending out of control?
If I was as disappointed with my SD as you are, I would have moved by now.
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Post by bob on Jul 13, 2007 10:16:01 GMT -6
And was voted in by large margin of voters. The President's vote counts once just like the other SB members. What great powers does the PotSB have? who voted........I don't remember what the total % was of the registered voters. I would not call his reelection a "mandate". Also there were no real alternatives. (lesser of evils) But that is my opinion. Prez, while only 1 vote, decides the direction of the SB meeting, what makes it in or not, decides when a discussion/topic is over and have the rest move on to "other business", and I am sure a few other things.... Can you tell I am not one of his Fans anymore? I never called it a mandate. I think he can't limit discussion by himself. I believe they use Robert's Rules. |
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