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Post by Arch on Oct 17, 2007 8:13:26 GMT -6
It says budget parameters. I think the budget is public information. Just wondering what he meant by that. Has the budget changed in some way beyond what is available to the public? What have they committed to? If you don't know the answer that's fine - but don't downplay the question or try to sweep it under the rug. It's not downplayed or swept. I'm sorry you can not tell the difference between that and what I did say, which was: It could easily be something that is considered privileged information at this point which is being used during a negotiation phase. |
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Post by gatormom on Oct 17, 2007 8:16:32 GMT -6
It says budget parameters. I think the budget is public information. Just wondering what he meant by that. Has the budget changed in some way beyond what is available to the public? What have they committed to? If you don't know the answer that's fine - but don't downplay the question or try to sweep it under the rug. I think, and I could be wrong, M2 is referring to the SBs commitment not to come back to the voters and ask for more money to build Metea. I don't think anyone is trying to sweep this under the rug or downplay your question. Lacy, you have the same information as everyone else. As the district is still negotiating, they are unable to answer detailed questions that might impact that process. |
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Post by sam2 on Oct 17, 2007 8:17:01 GMT -6
If anyone is interested, the government is now publishing a price index for school construction. It's a nationwide number, published by the same agency that brings us the CPI numbers, so take it for what it's worth, but since the planned construction start date ( early 2007) costs have gone up about 1.5% nationwide. Given the decline in construction, I was surprised the change was as high as it is. Here's the link: data.bls.gov/PDQ/servlet/SurveyOutputServlet?series_id=PCU |
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Post by sam2 on Oct 17, 2007 8:19:12 GMT -6
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Post by lacy on Oct 17, 2007 9:02:57 GMT -6
It says budget parameters. I think the budget is public information. Just wondering what he meant by that. Has the budget changed in some way beyond what is available to the public? What have they committed to? If you don't know the answer that's fine - but don't downplay the question or try to sweep it under the rug. I think, and I could be wrong, M2 is referring to the SBs commitment not to come back to the voters and ask for more money to build Metea. I don't think anyone is trying to sweep this under the rug or downplay your question. Lacy, you have the same information as everyone else. As the district is still negotiating, they are unable to answer detailed questions that might impact that process. My question was if anyone knew for sure what this meant and had the budget changed in any way. All of your "speculation" is immaterial. I wanted to know if anyone knew for sure. It seems you do not. |
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Post by Arch on Oct 17, 2007 9:06:36 GMT -6
I think, and I could be wrong, M2 is referring to the SBs commitment not to come back to the voters and ask for more money to build Metea. I don't think anyone is trying to sweep this under the rug or downplay your question. Lacy, you have the same information as everyone else. As the district is still negotiating, they are unable to answer detailed questions that might impact that process. My question was if anyone knew for sure what this meant and had the budget changed in any way. All of your "speculation" is immaterial. I wanted to know if anyone knew for sure. It seems you do not. Neither do you, that is what was said. None of us do. |
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Post by lacy on Oct 17, 2007 9:10:38 GMT -6
Arch, If I knew the question, I wouldn't have asked.
I am quite frankly tired of your hostility. And it speaks volumes.
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Post by Arch on Oct 17, 2007 9:17:39 GMT -6
Arch, If I knew the question, I wouldn't have asked. I am quite frankly tired of your hostility. And it speaks volumes. People were chiming in trying to help you answer the question that you asked. If you did not want an answer, then don't ask it. Interpret people answering your questions however you wish, but that's all they were doing. If people ignored it all together and did not respond, I believe you would have then been asking why no one has answered you... right? |
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Post by Arch on Oct 17, 2007 9:21:19 GMT -6
*cough*
"Do you know specifically what that is - or does anyone else?"
*cough*
The answer was 'no, we don't know specifically what that is'.
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Post by wvhsparent on Oct 17, 2007 9:26:47 GMT -6
That's good news, and gives some extra breathing room....the delay won't be as costly. Much better than the 5-10% increases being thrown about. Also make the non-BB sites a little better cost wise on the delay end of things. |
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Post by doctorwho on Oct 17, 2007 9:32:08 GMT -6
It says budget parameters. I think the budget is public information. Just wondering what he meant by that. Has the budget changed in some way beyond what is available to the public? What have they committed to? If you don't know the answer that's fine - but don't downplay the question or try to sweep it under the rug. I don't think anyone's sweeping anything under the rug, but somehow there is an expectation to see the line item budget for this -- I have yet to see the same for the regional transit authority, or state education budget and what exactly is entailed in any of those to the line item status, and they are also our tax dollars and public information. I haven't seen Emil Jones put them up inthe papers either. I think setting the expectation that somehow the budget will be reviewed for every eventuality is unrealistic. |
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Post by Arch on Oct 17, 2007 9:32:21 GMT -6
That's good news, and gives some extra breathing room....the delay won't be as costly. Much better than the 5-10% increases being thrown about. Also make the non-BB sites a little better cost wise on the delay end of things. This is good news on the surface, but it would be nice if they had a regional breakdown too because costs do change from region to region. In Govt tables that do break down by location, DuPage/Will County (or just the suburbs in general) do tend to be on the high side of costs versus some place like BFE, KY. Still, good to see a lower than expected number for a change. |
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Post by doctorwho on Oct 17, 2007 9:37:08 GMT -6
That's good news, and gives some extra breathing room....the delay won't be as costly. Much better than the 5-10% increases being thrown about. Also make the non-BB sites a little better cost wise on the delay end of things. Also makes the BB site better as well as we have not lost as much money as we thought with the delay up to now, ( with the drawn out court proceedings ) if we can start next month - just in case that gets overlooked. I still feel better with 5% as a cap ( I would agree that 10% is likely not valid right now - thankfully ) - with the variations by area - and impact of unions in areas like ours versus areas in the south for instance. |
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Post by wvhsparent on Oct 17, 2007 9:37:51 GMT -6
Arch, If I knew the question, I wouldn't have asked. I am quite frankly tired of your hostility. And it speaks volumes. lacy, please turn your sensitivty meter down a few notches... I read all the responses. No one is being hostile towards you. None of us know what the specific number is, what is public is the 124mil plus land cash/interest. It is a nebulus number that we will find out the exact number soon....after all negotiations are done. |
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Post by wvhsparent on Oct 17, 2007 9:40:59 GMT -6
That's good news, and gives some extra breathing room....the delay won't be as costly. Much better than the 5-10% increases being thrown about. Also make the non-BB sites a little better cost wise on the delay end of things. Also makes the BB site better as well as we have not lost as much money as we thought with the delay up to now, ( with the drawn out court proceedings ) if we can start next month - just in case that gets overlooked. I still feel better with 5% as a cap ( I would agree that 10% is likely not valid right now - thankfully ) - with the variations by area - and impact of unions in areas like ours versus areas in the south for instance. True.....But I am doing all I can to promote a non-BB solution  , peferably north. I would not want you folks to expect anything less from me. |
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