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[Arch]

rew said:

Bob, even if the trrain traffic increases, it increases for the AME site as well and you have more schools crossing the tracks with the AME site, so I don't understand why it is a bigger negative for Macom than AME.

RR tracks are a hazard for any site if someone has to cross without an over/underpass

[doctorwho]

bob said:

rew said:

The second track has been discussed and it was made it clear that if that were to be pursued, which is very $$$$, the RR would have to pitch in for overpasses/underpasses at crossings. The current traffic is about thirty trains a week.

That is just EJ traffic. CN is much larger and looking to route trains down the EJ line. This issue is bigger than the 3rd HS.

Double tracks are already in place in the areas mentioned above. Dont't get caught thinking that it couldn't happen. Getting trains to bypass Chicago, saves a lot of money for these railroads.

As far as a southern commuter rail line - right now with the state of Metra and the state finances overall, I see that as very unlikely. Amtrak is as broke as anyone else- who would foot the bill for these rail lines ?

I believe the southern commuter line will goin about the same time as the cross town expressway in Chicago. Not saying it couldn't happen, but I surely do not see where the money would come from.

[wvhsparent]

rew said:

Bob, even if the trrain traffic increases, it increases for the AME site as well and you have more schools crossing the tracks with the AME site, so I don't understand why it is a bigger negative for Macom than AME.

Enough with the train tracks already!
There are enough over/underpasses with EJ&E. Sure there could more, there are main crossings at McCoy, East New York St. and N. Aurora Rd that go over or under the tracks.

[rew]

Train tracks and power lines...it's all we got.

BB..looking awfully good.

[bob]

rew said:

Bob, even if the trrain traffic increases, it increases for the AME site as well and you have more schools crossing the tracks with the AME site, so I don't understand why it is a bigger negative for Macom than AME.

I never said it was a bigger negative for Macom than AME. A busier trainline is a concern for all sites.

[bob]

wvhsparent said:

OK I was away at a meeting last nite...Hoo Boy! many pages to read!!

I found out why Costco has been included in all the litigation. The have a Restrictive covenent on the rest of the BB property to not allow certain types of establishments, namely Sam's/Walmart and a few others I have never heard of before, for 15 years.
I was also told by someone in the know with Aurora, that there will be access to the school from Rt 59. Most likely at the exsisting Traffic light by Lowes.

I guess that puts the Wal-mart rumor to rest.

[EagleDad]

wvhsparent said:

I found out why Costco has been included in all the litigation. The have a Restrictive covenent on the rest of the BB property to not allow certain types of establishments, namely Sam's/Walmart and a few others I have never heard of before, for 15 years.

Wohoo, go Costco! (Walmart hater cheer)

[EagleDad]

archwinsome said:

Walmart is 'alleged' right now. The commuter lot and StarLine station are happening.

No offense Arch, but I believe in the Star line about as much as I believe in the Easter Bunny or bigfoot.

Metra can barely figure out how to stay solvent with record ridership and very simple equation of revenues and costs (gee, do you need to raise ticket prices? - duh). They seemingly are constantly whining to the state to bail them out.

I'd give their ability to pull off a major project like the Star line less probability then me building my own Walmart in my back yard with hand tools.

[momof3]

wvhsparent said:

I was also told by someone in the know with Aurora, that there will be access to the school from Rt 59. Most likely at the exsisting Traffic light by Lowes.

wvhsparent! you win the 'info of the day' award.

Interesting - will that be the main entrance?

Assuming there will also be access from 75th St and 83rd?

eta - Is this new news or is this the old plan - pre-trial?

[doctorwho]

momof3 said:

wvhsparent said:

I was also told by someone in the know with Aurora, that there will be access to the school from Rt 59. Most likely at the exsisting Traffic light by Lowes.

wvhsparent! you win the 'info of the day' award.

Interesting - will that be the main entrance?

Assuming there will also be access from 75th St and 83rd?

If I remember the conversations correctly at the meetings with the school plans - they had to be an 'access' road from Rt 59 for emergency vehicles and such - but was not going to be a student access - the parking lot access was from 83rd street.

[wvhsparent]

momof3 said:

wvhsparent said:

I was also told by someone in the know with Aurora, that there will be access to the school from Rt 59. Most likely at the exsisting Traffic light by Lowes.

wvhsparent! you win the 'info of the day' award.

Interesting - will that be the main entrance?

Assuming there will also be access from 75th St and 83rd?

eta - Is this new news or is this the old plan - pre-trial?

Also there will be no Throughfare for Commons due to the winding residential nature of the road off of Montgomery.

[wvhsparent]

doctorwho said:

momof3 said:

wvhsparent! you win the 'info of the day' award.

Interesting - will that be the main entrance?

Assuming there will also be access from 75th St and 83rd?

If I remember the conversations correctly at the meetings with the school plans - they had to be an 'access' road from Rt 59 for emergency vehicles and such - but was not going to be a student access - the parking lot access was from 83rd street.

Nope...full regular access point.
Probably not the main point for students, etc. but the city plans have it as a full intersection.

[Arch]

eagledad said:

archwinsome said:

Walmart is 'alleged' right now. The commuter lot and StarLine station are happening.

No offense Arch, but I believe in the Star line about as much as I believe in the Easter Bunny or bigfoot.

Metra can barely figure out how to stay solvent with record ridership and very simple equation of revenues and costs (gee, do you need to raise ticket prices? - duh). They seemingly are constantly whining to the state to bail them out.

I'd give their ability to pull off a major project like the Star line less probability then me building my own Walmart in my back yard with hand tools.

While you may be correct in their management's ability, all it takes are some very influential lobbyists to bend the right ears to get constituents to vote to approve money to put it in motion and pull it off. If certain folks want it to get done, it will eventually get done and like most cases, we pay the bill.

[wvhsparent]

archwinsome said:

eagledad said:

No offense Arch, but I believe in the Star line about as much as I believe in the Easter Bunny or bigfoot.

Metra can barely figure out how to stay solvent with record ridership and very simple equation of revenues and costs (gee, do you need to raise ticket prices? - duh). They seemingly are constantly whining to the state to bail them out.

I'd give their ability to pull off a major project like the Star line less probability then me building my own Walmart in my back yard with hand tools.

While you may be correct in their management's ability, all it takes are some very influential lobbyists to bend the right ears to get constituents to vote to approve money to put it in motion and pull it off. If certain folks want it to get done, it will eventually get done and like most cases, we pay the bill.

With all due respect. They have been saying they wanted to make a N/S Star line since before I moved in the area (Pheasant Creek Subdiv next to the tracks) in 1989. Nothing has ever happened. To me it's all white noise anymore.

[doctorwho]

wvhsparent said:

doctorwho said:

If I remember the conversations correctly at the meetings with the school plans - they had to be an 'access' road from Rt 59 for emergency vehicles and such - but was not going to be a student access - the parking lot access was from 83rd street.

Nope...full regular access point.
Probably not the main point for students, etc. but the city plans have it as a full intersection.

If there is no student access - I'm not sure I see the issue - if there is an issue ?