Boundaries again.

[lacy]

justvote said:

Regarding the Fry walkers - are they going to be considered "walkers" in the eyes of the school district? Is bus service going to cease in those designated areas now that the bridge is in place? If the district still plans to provide bus service to that area, the cost is a moot point.

Also, we're talking about a very small number here and correct me if I'm wrong (and I'm sure I will be), but this only affects students at the Freshman campus, not the main campus, which is further and outside the 1.5 mile range of anyone who lives within the Fry attendance area.

I agree with proschool - splitting Fry is not a good idea and not worth the small cost savings that may (or may not) be incurred, and I also agree with the Superintendant that Rte. 59 is a natural dividing line when discussing boundaries.

I think you're wrong about it being a small number. When we looked at the numbers and the area, it wasn't just a few homes and kids. Furthermore, you're wrong about it only being the Freshman campus. There are many homes within 1.5 miles to the main campus.

And why would we split Fry? Are they the exception? Stillwater wasn't split and I'm sure there are other areas where only some kids walk but they are affored "walker status" in terms of their boundaries.

Again, if we are going to split neighborhoods, split off the sections of the neighborhoods around WVHS that aren't walkers and send them to the northern location if that's where they place the school. Do not bus kids who live much farther away from the northern location.

[bob]

I like to see how you calculated it.

[slp]

No offense here, but it seems almost comical how Lacy will do and say anything to stay at NVHS. Sorry, but from an outsider looking in that is how it looks.

[EagleDad]

bob said:

I believe the rule is continuous sidewalk.

Oh that's just lovely. White Eagle gets screwed again because Paul Lehman and Macom corp never finished the sidewalk at the Route 59 entrance that they were accounatble for.

We can't be walkers anywhere. We're an Island!

[wvhsparent]

IMHO 59 on the south end should be the dividing line. Because of Rt 59 none of Fry's area is a walker to NVHS now.

[wvhsparent]

eagledad said:

bob said:

I believe the rule is continuous sidewalk.

Oh that's just lovely. White Eagle gets screwed again because Paul Lehman and Macom corp never finished the sidewalk at the Route 59 entrance that they were accounatble for.

We can't be walkers anywhere. We're an Island!

Butterfield and Ginger Woods is even more of an island. At least you have an ES in White Eagle!

[bob]

eagledad said:

bob said:

I believe the rule is continuous sidewalk.

Oh that's just lovely. White Eagle gets screwed again because Paul Lehman and Macom corp never finished the sidewalk at the Route 59 entrance that they were accounatble for.

We can't be walkers anywhere. We're an Island!

Well if the 3rd HS is at Macom, he better put sidewalks in for Ashwood or they still are eligible to be bussed to WV. Now wouldn't that be ironic.

[justvote]

lacy said:

justvote said:

Regarding the Fry walkers - are they going to be considered "walkers" in the eyes of the school district? Is bus service going to cease in those designated areas now that the bridge is in place? If the district still plans to provide bus service to that area, the cost is a moot point.

Also, we're talking about a very small number here and correct me if I'm wrong (and I'm sure I will be), but this only affects students at the Freshman campus, not the main campus, which is further and outside the 1.5 mile range of anyone who lives within the Fry attendance area.

I agree with proschool - splitting Fry is not a good idea and not worth the small cost savings that may (or may not) be incurred, and I also agree with the Superintendant that Rte. 59 is a natural dividing line when discussing boundaries.

I think you're wrong about it being a small number. When we looked at the numbers and the area, it wasn't just a few homes and kids. Furthermore, you're wrong about it only being the Freshman campus. There are many homes within 1.5 miles to the main campus.

And why would we split Fry? Are they the exception? Stillwater wasn't split and I'm sure there are other areas where only some kids walk but they are affored "walker status" in terms of their boundaries.

Again, if we are going to split neighborhoods, split off the sections of the neighborhoods around WVHS that aren't walkers and send them to the northern location if that's where they place the school. Do not bus kids who live much farther away from the northern location.

Ummmm - if you read my post you'll see that I agree that Fry should not be split.

Lacy - do you know if bus service will be continued for the new "walkers"? If it is, your point is moot as noone from your area will be defined as a "walker" by the SB.

Another question - why is it NV at all costs with some in your area? This is not a rhetorical question, I really don't get it. Is it a "sense of entitlement" about Neuqua? Are some of you upset, because you were led to believe that your area would always be assigned to NV? It cannot be all about the distance as WV is just not that far from your area and BB is even closer.

[proschool]

wvhsparent said:

IMHO 59 on the south end should be the dividing line. Because of Rt 59 none of Fry's area is a walker to NVHS now.

What's the point of having a dividing line? This is one district. Some kids will go to one school and other kids will go to another. We had a dividing line for ten years. Let's get that Idea out of our heads.

[wvhsparent]

proschool said:

wvhsparent said:

IMHO 59 on the south end should be the dividing line. Because of Rt 59 none of Fry's area is a walker to NVHS now.

What's the point of having a dividing line? This is one district. Some kids will go to one school and other kids will go to another. We had a dividing line for ten years. Let's get that Idea out of our heads.

OK Boundary Line instead of Dividing line

[lacy]

slp said:

No offense here, but it seems almost comical how Lacy will do and say anything to stay at NVHS. Sorry, but from an outsider looking in that is how it looks.

I giggle almost continously at the lengths some have gone to to justify overpaying for BB.

And now how some are trying to politic for another location and boundaries that suit them.

It's not NVHS or nothing for me - although if kids can walk, the same standards should be applied that are applied to other areas. Don't you think - or do you think one area should be treated differently?

I think the Macom site is workable and I haven't heard what the others are. Have you?

[lacy]

justvote said:

lacy said:

I think you're wrong about it being a small number. When we looked at the numbers and the area, it wasn't just a few homes and kids. Furthermore, you're wrong about it only being the Freshman campus. There are many homes within 1.5 miles to the main campus.

And why would we split Fry? Are they the exception? Stillwater wasn't split and I'm sure there are other areas where only some kids walk but they are affored "walker status" in terms of their boundaries.

Again, if we are going to split neighborhoods, split off the sections of the neighborhoods around WVHS that aren't walkers and send them to the northern location if that's where they place the school. Do not bus kids who live much farther away from the northern location.

Ummmm - if you read my post you'll see that I agree that Fry should not be split.

Lacy - do you know if bus service will be continued for the new "walkers"? If it is, your point is moot as noone from your area will be defined as a "walker" by the SB.

Another question - why is it NV at all costs with some in your area? This is not a rhetorical question, I really don't get it. Is it a "sense of entitlement" about Neuqua? Are some of you upset, because you were led to believe that your area would always be assigned to NV? It cannot be all about the distance as WV is just not that far from your area and BB is even closer.

Are you in charge of the bussing service for the district? If not, then neither you or I know whether bussing would be continued - so by you declaring it's a "moot point", doesn't make it so. I wouldn't think it would be any different from any other area that has people who can walk. Bussing is provided in neighborhoods where some children are walkers. There may even be bus stops closer than the school for some walkers. So this area should be no different - unless you have something against the area? Is that it?

As for your other point, does it serve a purpose to label certain areas as elitist? Does that help your cause? I think those that wanted to stay at NVHS wanted that because it is the closest school. They already have children attending there, etc. With the addition of the bridge many kids (not just one or two) could walk or ride their bikes - not just to school but to after school activities. Do you think the children of this area should be treated differently?

NVHS is considerably closer to the Fry attendance area than BB or WVHS. So I disagree with your last point as well.

[Arch]

Lacy, What did you think about the idea of parents being able to 'opt out' of their area's assignment but the parents sign an indemnification and are 100% responsible for ensuring their kids make it to and from their closer school each day?

[lacy]

There are many kids already either walking or providing their own transportation - because they live too far to be bussed. So many parents are already 100% responsible for ensuring their kids make it to and from school each day.

I would think your proposal sounds fair enough - unless a ton of people wanted to do it and it altered the numbers at the schools - such that one school was more crowded than it was supposed to be and vice versa. Then maybe it would be hard for the district to manage.

[harry]

archwinsome said:

Lacy, What did you think about the idea of parents being able to 'opt out' of their area's assignment but the parents sign an indemnification and are 100% responsible for ensuring their kids make it to and from their closer school each day?

Why should our SD offer a buffeteria style education, where you choose what you want?? The district would have to hire an army to handle the paperwork alone.