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Post by onh on Apr 16, 2010 15:29:11 GMT -6
Dr. you did not know that they could borrow more than what is on the ballot? Really? This is extremely common. I find this hard to believe you did not know this.
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Post by Arch on Apr 16, 2010 15:30:21 GMT -6
The 'funding' slide is right here from their presentation in 08... Even they say 146 million... but remember everyone keeps wanting to play stupid (or they really are) about how much that 10.5 million in "interest" actually 'cost' the taxpayers... winsome.cnchost.com/mvhs_funding.pdfSo yeah.. it's really MORE than 150 million that it's costing us. |
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Post by macrockett on Apr 16, 2010 15:30:48 GMT -6
To macrockett - What is your point? What facts did is misrepresent? Please expand. I don't think you included any facts onh, so none. Hard to expand on that. |
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Post by Arch on Apr 16, 2010 15:32:34 GMT -6
For starters, halting spending on something last year would have saved a good chunk of coin not just at the time, but going forward year to year.  no way they would have stopped construction of MV I would have. It's going to cost us way more than anyone realizes in the future; take that one to the bank. |
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Post by steckdad on Apr 16, 2010 15:33:24 GMT -6
no way they would have stopped construction of MV again from someone who was not involved with them.. what do you base this statement on ? the parents of 204, The ensuing sh!tstorm, legal action, widening the division of the north/south...same reasons given when they told us they would not change the boudaries I guess.... |
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Post by macrockett on Apr 16, 2010 15:34:49 GMT -6
Dr. you did not know that they could borrow more than what is on the ballot? Really? This is extremely common. I find this hard to believe you did not know this. So let me get this straight onh, what was the purpose of the $124.660 listed on the ballot? By the way they didn't borrow an additional dime beyond the referendum total that I am. Please enlighten me. I will have to get back to you on Monday as I am out of town at the moment, so please take the weekend to get your facts straight. |
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Post by steckdad on Apr 16, 2010 15:35:40 GMT -6
so let me get this straight. the slate of four would have saved us from our current financial situation? how? Hey Curt's BFF is here! More pearls of wisdom! It's academic now, who cares. You got what you voted for. A continuing train wreck. why don't you and your 700 friends go have a what if party.... |
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Post by Arch on Apr 16, 2010 15:37:46 GMT -6
Hey Curt's BFF is here! More pearls of wisdom! It's academic now, who cares. You got what you voted for. A continuing train wreck. why don't you and your 700 friends go have a what if party.... It will dwarf the whine and cry party being put on by those who wanted their cake and wanted everyone else to pay for it... and now they're crying because things are getting impacted that they didn't think about prior... You all voted for it, you all supported it, and you voted for the status quo in last election so deal with it. |
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Post by doctorwho on Apr 16, 2010 15:37:58 GMT -6
again from someone who was not involved with them.. what do you base this statement on ? the parents of 204, The ensuing sh!tstorm, legal action, widening the division of the north/south...same reasons given when they told us they would not change the boudaries I guess.... and yet they did, did the district close up shop ? Nope. One thing everyone should have learned from all of this- regardless of what 'side' you are on is that school boards have damn close to unlimited legal decision making authority. If not- shame on everyone. This time the decision might have gone your way, but one day it might go the other. |
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Post by onh on Apr 16, 2010 15:38:13 GMT -6
macrockett - Your post make no sense so please stop until you get back on Monday. Thanks.
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Post by doctorwho on Apr 16, 2010 15:40:26 GMT -6
Hey Curt's BFF is here! More pearls of wisdom! It's academic now, who cares. You got what you voted for. A continuing train wreck. why don't you and your 700 friends go have a what if party.... it's more of a - having to live with the crap we have now party- and we're saving our money for the tax increases headed our way. You can belittle if you want- I have really come to expect no less- but I can guarantee you one day more than 700- or 7000 will be aware of the travesty that happened here. |
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Post by Arch on Apr 16, 2010 15:41:51 GMT -6
This time the decision might have gone your way, but one day it might go the other. Even those who had the decision go their way are now whining and crying that its costs have and will continue to impact other things they hold dear in the district such as Special needs, sports, fine arts, etc. Of course, they deny the white elephant in the room has anything to do with it but it's plain as day to the people no longer under the kool-aid spell of the Admin/Board members. Enjoy your taxes and what you get back from them. ;D |
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Post by doctorwho on Apr 16, 2010 15:46:39 GMT -6
Dr. you did not know that they could borrow more than what is on the ballot? Really? This is extremely common. I find this hard to believe you did not know this. Yes I knew this ( but then I am one of those dumb ass MBA's ) but really never expected $17M more and oh btw -- if this is such common knowkedge - why is it not on one of the districts pretty powerpoint charts explaining the cost of the school ? Why do they continue to blow over it like it doesn't exist ? When they tell this straight up to the public - I'll stop bringing it up. What's stopping them - the shiny new school is built now .... Oh, yeah, maybe Joe Public would question the next referendum if they knew what this one cost ;D Or maybe someone in Springfield would question our hearty caravaners if they knew how money was being spent here - trust me they know. |
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Post by gatordog on Apr 16, 2010 15:49:25 GMT -6
Let be realistic the fab four would be in the same situation today. The only exception would be that the boundaries would have changed. The HS was approved long before the economic climate changed so that argument is nil. It is incredible if some actually think in April-May of 2009 when the Slate would have taken office that all four would have voted to halt the finishing of the nearly completed MVHS. To me, this is just beyond fantasy. I will say this as a fact: never did one of the Slate candidates publicly say "We need to immediately pull the plug on MV because the finances are so bad. We must walk away and leave it standing as 90% finished bldg" . In fact, I will go a little further....I think its an insult to the honesty of those four men to imply that such dramatic change would have happened after they campaigned for transparency. You know what also leads voters to think you are not qualified to be elected to the school board? When you take the unprecedented (in 204) step to form a slate and fail to give a compelling straight-up answer to a question "why are you in a slate with these others?" (I asked them that very question) Maybe the slate candidates holding MBA's are financial geniuses. But they politically blundered when they decided against putting themselves forward as an individual candidate with individual merits. The voters clearly agreed with us, onh, and didn't find that a smart thing for them to do. |
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Post by doctorwho on Apr 16, 2010 15:55:15 GMT -6
Let be realistic the fab four would be in the same situation today. The only exception would be that the boundaries would have changed. The HS was approved long before the economic climate changed so that argument is nil. It is incredible if some actually think in April-May of 2009 when the Slate would have taken office that all four would have voted to halt the finishing of the nearly completed MVHS. To me, this is just beyond fantasy. I will say this as a fact: never did one of the Slate candidates publicly say "We need to immediately pull the plug on MV because the finances are so bad. We must walk away and leave it standing as 90% finished bldg" . In fact, I will go a little further....I think its an insult to the honesty of those four men to imply that such dramatic change would have happened after they campaigned for transparency. You know what also leads voters to think you are not qualified to be elected to the school board? When you take the unprecedented (in 204) step to form a slate and fail to give a compelling straight-up answer to a question "why are you in a slate with these others?" (I asked them that very question) Maybe the slate candidates holding MBA's are financial geniuses. But they politically blundered when they decided against putting themselves forward as an individual candidate with individual merits. The voters clearly agreed with us, onh, and didn't find that a smart thing for them to do. what was unprecedented was the honesty to say they were a slate- you worked for the 'unofficial' slate of Alka - Curt and M2 -- but of course they kept that under wraps except to their worker bees and JC and others who showed up to support them and deliver their literature together door to door. ---yes, we wouldn't want any of that honesty to infiltrate the board now would we? |
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