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Post by brant on May 6, 2010 9:53:41 GMT -6
This morning I was reading the schedules for the Fine Arts Festival and while was was gratified WV and NV have theirs on different weekends there were several things that puzzled me.
First the Still Chorus, Band, and Jazz Ensemble (where my child attends) are performing at MV where only Owen west will attend. They are not performing at WV where the overwhelming majority at Still will attend.
Scullen (Chorus, Band, Jazz Ensemble) is performing at WV but not at NV where half the school (Welch) will be attending.
I think everyone on this Blue Board has given up trying to figure out the SB rational but I don't understand why kids would have to perform at other schools outside of their own while not at the school they will be attending. I thought the purpose of the different weekends was to alllow everyone to perform where they would attend.
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Post by macrockett on May 6, 2010 10:39:10 GMT -6
This morning I was reading the schedules for the Fine Arts Festival and while was was gratified WV and NV have theirs on different weekends there were several things that puzzled me. First the Still Chorus, Band, and Jazz Ensemble (where my child attends) are performing at MV where only Owen west will attend. They are not performing at WV where the overwhelming majority at Still will attend. Scullen (Chorus, Band, Jazz Ensemble) is performing at WV but not at NV where half the school (Welch) will be attending. I think everyone on this Blue Board has given up trying to figure out the SB rational but I don't understand why kids would have to perform at other schools outside of their own while not at the school they will be attending. I thought the purpose of the different weekends was to alllow everyone to perform where they would attend. Imo Brant, this is a natural extension of policies that weren't in the best interest of the entire community, arguably created the maximum dislocation and disruption possible for students and their families and, finally, wasted approximately $100 million in the process. |
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Post by refbasics on May 6, 2010 14:14:49 GMT -6
This morning I was reading the schedules for the Fine Arts Festival and while was was gratified WV and NV have theirs on different weekends there were several things that puzzled me. First the Still Chorus, Band, and Jazz Ensemble (where my child attends) are performing at MV where only Owen west will attend. They are not performing at WV where the overwhelming majority at Still will attend. Scullen (Chorus, Band, Jazz Ensemble) is performing at WV but not at NV where half the school (Welch) will be attending. I think everyone on this Blue Board has given up trying to figure out the SB rational but I don't understand why kids would have to perform at other schools outside of their own while not at the school they will be attending. I thought the purpose of the different weekends was to alllow everyone to perform where they would attend. ---------------------- i think the schools will be alternating each year... scullen will be at NV next year, still will be at WV.. all because we have the mixed middle schools now... i'm glad i don't have to figure this out!  |
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Post by doctorwho on May 6, 2010 14:25:02 GMT -6
This morning I was reading the schedules for the Fine Arts Festival and while was was gratified WV and NV have theirs on different weekends there were several things that puzzled me. First the Still Chorus, Band, and Jazz Ensemble (where my child attends) are performing at MV where only Owen west will attend. They are not performing at WV where the overwhelming majority at Still will attend. Scullen (Chorus, Band, Jazz Ensemble) is performing at WV but not at NV where half the school (Welch) will be attending. I think everyone on this Blue Board has given up trying to figure out the SB rational but I don't understand why kids would have to perform at other schools outside of their own while not at the school they will be attending. I thought the purpose of the different weekends was to alllow everyone to perform where they would attend. ---------------------- i think the schools will be alternating each year... scullen will be at NV next year, still will be at WV.. all because we have the mixed middle schools now... i'm glad i don't have to figure this out! don't figure too far out - with potential school consolidations-closings / consolidation of PA - new school for PA level kids / hence continued dropping ES attendance -- boundaries will no doubt change anyway |
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Post by rew on May 6, 2010 18:06:44 GMT -6
I agree that a screwy FAF is an extension of poor decision making...how about no more FAFs, or each school sponsor their own FAF?
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Post by Arch on May 6, 2010 21:47:39 GMT -6
Better yet, make them optional to attend instead of impacting one's grade.
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Post by rew on May 7, 2010 7:03:18 GMT -6
With all the cuts in music, maybe the money should go towards teachers salaries instead of FAF?
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Post by refbasics on May 7, 2010 10:13:02 GMT -6
With all the cuts in music, maybe the money should go towards teachers salaries instead of FAF? -------------------------------- i believe the FAF is funded by the donation we make when we register our students... used to be $15(requested)... this year it's $25(requested).... now whether this wholly funds it... i don't know. |
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Post by gatordog on May 7, 2010 11:59:13 GMT -6
This morning I was reading the schedules for the Fine Arts Festival and while was was gratified WV and NV have theirs on different weekends there were several things that puzzled me. First the Still Chorus, Band, and Jazz Ensemble (where my child attends) are performing at MV where only Owen west will attend. They are not performing at WV where the overwhelming majority at Still will attend. Scullen (Chorus, Band, Jazz Ensemble) is performing at WV but not at NV where half the school (Welch) will be attending. I think everyone on this Blue Board has given up trying to figure out the SB rational but I don't understand why kids would have to perform at other schools outside of their own while not at the school they will be attending. I thought the purpose of the different weekends was to alllow everyone to perform where they would attend. brant, the FAF assignments gives families with splits between MS/HS or ES/MS or any combination the chance to be at all their children's events. To not miss their school’s FAF events. You are asking about the rationale? Well, thats the rationale. Yes, I thought about this for a bit since this is the situation my family is in. The plan is to alternate split MS's to the two different HS's from year to year. So, brant, you are now faulting the planners because half of time the stage or hallway the students performance or art is displayed on "not the HS they will be attending"? So what! Come on, that is pretty empty criticism. Imo Brant, this is a natural extension of policies that weren't in the best interest of the entire community, arguably created the maximum dislocation and disruption possible for students and their families and, finally, wasted approximately $100 million in the process. Good grief, mac, you are citing this as an example of "maximum disruption and dislocation"? Wow, what a stretch that is. Actually, I was thinking the exact opposite. FAF as planned here minimizes disruption and dislocation. Lets give credit to the SD and the IPEA for planning it so. Let me throw in a thought of mine....Allow me to consider this particular FAF issue in terms of boundaries. Here is a clear and direct instance where minimizing ES and MS splits helps. So in this particular instance, minimizing MS and ES splits actually minimizes disruption and dislocation . It can be sensibly accommodated. I was thinking to myself, what if there was a third split MS? Or a fourth? I think that would have vastly complicated FAF assignments , and I think there would have likely been some permanent, unavoidable, built-in conflicts for some families. I say this as somebody who back in the boundary days argued that split MS where not all that bad, even had advantages. I still think that, but I clearly see the other side of the issue and acknowledge that the SD’s criteria to minimize splits has advantages, too. Such as this issue with FAF. |
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Post by Arch on May 7, 2010 12:40:29 GMT -6
If they truly wanted to minimize disruption and dislocation they would not tie attendance to their grade. Some families and kids have other things to do on weekends.
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Post by brant on May 7, 2010 13:53:13 GMT -6
This morning I was reading the schedules for the Fine Arts Festival and while was was gratified WV and NV have theirs on different weekends there were several things that puzzled me. First the Still Chorus, Band, and Jazz Ensemble (where my child attends) are performing at MV where only Owen west will attend. They are not performing at WV where the overwhelming majority at Still will attend. Scullen (Chorus, Band, Jazz Ensemble) is performing at WV but not at NV where half the school (Welch) will be attending. I think everyone on this Blue Board has given up trying to figure out the SB rational but I don't understand why kids would have to perform at other schools outside of their own while not at the school they will be attending. I thought the purpose of the different weekends was to alllow everyone to perform where they would attend. brant, the FAF assignments gives families with splits between MS/HS or ES/MS or any combination the chance to be at all their children's events. To not miss their school’s FAF events. You are asking about the rationale? Well, thats the rationale. Yes, I thought about this for a bit since this is the situation my family is in. The plan is to alternate split MS's to the two different HS's from year to year. So, brant, you are now faulting the planners because half of time the stage or hallway the students performance or art is displayed on "not the HS they will be attending"? So what! Come on, that is pretty empty criticism. Imo Brant, this is a natural extension of policies that weren't in the best interest of the entire community, arguably created the maximum dislocation and disruption possible for students and their families and, finally, wasted approximately $100 million in the process. Good grief, mac, you are citing this as an example of "maximum disruption and dislocation"? Wow, what a stretch that is. Actually, I was thinking the exact opposite. FAF as planned here minimizes disruption and dislocation. Lets give credit to the SD and the IPEA for planning it so. GD what I am saying is since WV is on a different weekend as MV and NV then the split bands should perform at both schools. That is all I am saying. |
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Post by gatordog on May 7, 2010 14:15:14 GMT -6
... GD what I am saying is since WV is on a different weekend as MV and NV then the split bands should perform at both schools. That is all I am saying. OK, brandt, thanks for clarifying. I did not get this proposal out of your first post. But, now I do see your idea. (Awesome....brandt brings up an issue not to his liking, and proposes a potential solution for it! Yeah!  And the solution isnt the usual panacea "close down the third HS" ) That is an interesting idea. It would create a unique burden to the split MS music groups in that they would have two commitments, not just one like the other MS's. Me, I like the one performance. And with the split MS's alternating HS assignment for FAF, all MS students are guaranteed an assignment at their future HS. Actually, from now on, stretching back to their ES careers, they will have made multiple FAF appearances at their future HS. |
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Post by macrockett on May 7, 2010 14:18:27 GMT -6
Good grief, mac, you are citing this as an example of "maximum disruption and dislocation"? Wow, what a stretch that is. Actually, I was thinking the exact opposite. FAF as planned here minimizes disruption and dislocation. Lets give credit to the SD and the IPEA for planning it so. Maybe you better read it again gatordog. Two separate thoughts. |
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Post by gatordog on May 7, 2010 15:09:53 GMT -6
Good grief, mac, you are citing this as an example of "maximum disruption and dislocation"? Wow, what a stretch that is. Actually, I was thinking the exact opposite. FAF as planned here minimizes disruption and dislocation. Lets give credit to the SD and the IPEA for planning it so. Maybe you better read it again gatordog. Two separate thoughts. Seperate thoughts. Hummm. Brandt makes a new thread post called "Fine Arts Festival", raising an issue. And the very first reply is a "separate thought" ? Is it related to, golly, the 2006 decision to build a third HS?!  Gasp! |
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Post by Arch on May 7, 2010 15:21:03 GMT -6
You mean the April 2008 decision to build it and where. 2006 was just a voter approval of selling bonds to fund it if it was still deemed necessary to build...
Enjoy them taxes. More coming.
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And the solution isnt the usual panacea "close down the third HS" 
Gasp!