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Post by Arch on Mar 21, 2008 9:36:26 GMT -6
Really! Would mind asking them to come forward? I would love to hear from them too, not just the 4 mouthpieces from TG. All one has to do is read Potluck (wash afterwards) or the nsfocfraud site to realize there is a lot of anger about nsfoc. The fraud site even calls out a Sun reporter, and gives his e-mail! These folks are really polarizing the district, and forcing us to takes sides, when what most of us want is a calm, rational discussion in the middle. That is because when you take sides and fight, people tend to just want to make sure the other side "does not win". Discussion, rational thought and objectivity tends to go right out the window and the truth gets lost. For some, that is exactly what they desire.. the truth to get lost in the shuffle.
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Post by doctorwho on Mar 21, 2008 10:36:43 GMT -6
Really! Would mind asking them to come forward? I would love to hear from them too, not just the 4 mouthpieces from TG. All one has to do is read Potluck (wash afterwards) or the nsfocfraud site to realize there is a lot of anger about nsfoc. The fraud site even calls out a Sun reporter, and gives his e-mail! These folks are really polarizing the district, and forcing us to takes sides, when what most of us want is a calm, rational discussion in the middle. you mean they're not the sunshine crew ? If you think they're angry now - watch what happens if the nsfoc lawsuit gains traction...
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Post by Avenging Eagle on Mar 21, 2008 16:27:29 GMT -6
All one has to do is read Potluck (wash afterwards) or the nsfocfraud site to realize there is a lot of anger about nsfoc. The fraud site even calls out a Sun reporter, and gives his e-mail! These folks are really polarizing the district, and forcing us to takes sides, when what most of us want is a calm, rational discussion in the middle. you mean they're not the sunshine crew ? If you think they're angry now - watch what happens if the nsfoc lawsuit gains traction... What if they release the reports that say the MWGEN site is contaminated beyond remediation estimates. What if they announce that MWGEN will not sell the land? What will all the parrots say then? There is a limit to how many times you can defend your misguided loyalty by saying "lets make lemonade out of lemons". Well we don't need any more lemonade...We have quite enough that has been generated for the last 3 years+. I believe we actually have enough to fill up that tank sitting on the MWGEN property.
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Post by steckmom on Mar 21, 2008 16:30:18 GMT -6
All one has to do is read Potluck (wash afterwards) or the nsfocfraud site to realize there is a lot of anger about nsfoc. The fraud site even calls out a Sun reporter, and gives his e-mail! These folks are really polarizing the district, and forcing us to takes sides, when what most of us want is a calm, rational discussion in the middle. That is because when you take sides and fight, people tend to just want to make sure the other side "does not win". Discussion, rational thought and objectivity tends to go right out the window and the truth gets lost. For some, that is exactly what they desire.. the truth to get lost in the shuffle. Nothing like a lawsuit to encourage rational thought and objectivity.
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Post by doctorwho on Mar 21, 2008 16:33:53 GMT -6
That is because when you take sides and fight, people tend to just want to make sure the other side "does not win". Discussion, rational thought and objectivity tends to go right out the window and the truth gets lost. For some, that is exactly what they desire.. the truth to get lost in the shuffle. Nothing like a lawsuit to encourage rational thought and objectivity. there was going to be none without it was there ?. Dr D said it himself at IPPC- there's nothing wrong and nothing short of a catastrophe will stop MV from going at AME -- so tell me where the rational thought is there ? Smom - you know nothing short of this was going to do anything - it has all been tried before.
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Post by jwh on Mar 21, 2008 16:54:52 GMT -6
you mean they're not the sunshine crew ? If you think they're angry now - watch what happens if the nsfoc lawsuit gains traction... What if they release the reports that say the MWGEN site is contaminated beyond remediation estimates. What if they announce that MWGEN will not sell the land? What will all the parrots say then? There is a limit to how many times you can defend your misguided loyalty by saying "lets make lemonade out of lemons". Well we don't need any more lemonade...We have quite enough that has been generated for the last 3 years+. The parrots will continue to cackle about FUD environmental issues after the school is built. By the way, back to the original post here, the Sun used an incorrect address to calculate the distance from Fry to WV in their article. The map they used was actually from Fry to DOWNTOWN AURORA. That is 8 miles. The distance from Fry to WV is half a mile more than the now dead BB property.
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Post by Avenging Eagle on Mar 21, 2008 17:00:40 GMT -6
What if they release the reports that say the MWGEN site is contaminated beyond remediation estimates. What if they announce that MWGEN will not sell the land? What will all the parrots say then? There is a limit to how many times you can defend your misguided loyalty by saying "lets make lemonade out of lemons". Well we don't need any more lemonade...We have quite enough that has been generated for the last 3 years+. The parrots will continue to cackle about FUD environmental issues after the school is built. By the way, back to the original post here, the Sun used an incorrect address to calculate the distance from Fry to WV in their article. The map they used was actually from Fry to DOWNTOWN AURORA. That is 8 miles. The distance from Fry to WV is half a mile more than the now dead BB property. you better hurry before the facts come out...... Is your name Dash? So you are concerned about the air pollution 15-35 years ago? If I heard right, the soil samples revealed a small detection of diesel fuel, in one location, that is easily remediated. Granted, we all need to see the Phase II so that we can verify that has been told to us already (that there are no other surprises). How easy was the remediation? Did you finish the job yet?
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Post by macy on Mar 21, 2008 17:07:53 GMT -6
The very fact that the Phase II results have not been made public really concerns me.
I thought they were coming out last night? Why haven't we seen them yet?
What's the holdup?
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Post by doctorwho on Mar 21, 2008 17:10:21 GMT -6
The very fact that the Phase II results have not been made public really concerns me. I thought they were coming out last night? Why haven't we seen them yet? What's the holdup? Was the meeting last night within guidelines time notification wise ? Could that be why no action was taken ? Just a thought Would explain why the pastor was there from AME but left before executive session.
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Post by Avenging Eagle on Mar 21, 2008 17:15:29 GMT -6
The very fact that the Phase II results have not been made public really concerns me. I thought they were coming out last night? Why haven't we seen them yet? What's the holdup? Was the meeting last night within guidelines time notification wise ? Could that be why no action was taken ? Just a thought Would explain why the pastor was there from AME but left before executive session. The pastor was there to administer the last rights to our district.
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Post by macy on Mar 21, 2008 17:16:24 GMT -6
Was the meeting last night within guidelines time notification wise ? Could that be why no action was taken ? Just a thought Would explain why the pastor was there from AME but left before executive session. The pastor was there to administer the last rights to our district. Good one! I hope he said a prayer for all of us! ETA: Is there confirmation that the school board was in violation of the time notification specification of the open meeting act for last night's meeting? Is that why no action was taken? If so, I'm stunned that the school board President, with such extensive experience on the board would have allowed such a thing to happen. After all, how long has Metzger been on the board? 16 years, 5 terms? Something like that, I think. Me thinks too long.
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Post by drdavelasik on Mar 21, 2008 17:53:52 GMT -6
The pastor was there to administer the last rights to our district. Good one! I hope he said a prayer for all of us! ETA: Is there confirmation that the school board was in violation of the time notification specification of the open meeting act for last night's meeting? Is that why no action was taken? If so, I'm stunned that the school board President, with such extensive experience on the board would have allowed such a thing to happen. After all, how long has Metzger been on the board? 16 years, 5 terms? Something like that, I think. Me thinks too long. He is becoming unraveled!!!
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Post by mandmmom on Mar 21, 2008 18:31:12 GMT -6
The pastor was there to administer the last rights to our district. Good one! I hope he said a prayer for all of us! ETA: Is there confirmation that the school board was in violation of the time notification specification of the open meeting act for last night's meeting? Is that why no action was taken? If so, I'm stunned that the school board President, with such extensive experience on the board would have allowed such a thing to happen. After all, how long has Metzger been on the board? 16 years, 5 terms? Something like that, I think. Me thinks too long. There are no term limits? Wow, if not I think that really needs to change....
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Post by snerdley on Mar 21, 2008 18:46:29 GMT -6
Good one! I hope he said a prayer for all of us! ETA: Is there confirmation that the school board was in violation of the time notification specification of the open meeting act for last night's meeting? Is that why no action was taken? If so, I'm stunned that the school board President, with such extensive experience on the board would have allowed such a thing to happen. After all, how long has Metzger been on the board? 16 years, 5 terms? Something like that, I think. Me thinks too long. There are no term limits? Wow, if not I think that really needs to change.... If we can't remove him or force him to step aside, at least next time we can vote his a** out. He is a disgrace. He uses our tax dollars to settle personal scores IMO. We all need to ban together to put an end to this.
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Post by drdavelasik on Mar 21, 2008 22:36:12 GMT -6
There are no term limits? Wow, if not I think that really needs to change.... If we can't remove him or force him to step aside, at least next time we can vote his a** out. He is a disgrace. He uses our tax dollars to settle personal scores IMO. We all need to ban together to put an end to this. From what I hear once done this term he has served 20 years and is done. So Mark gets what he wanted....I say boot his a@# out now. He absolutely sucks!
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