Yes vs NO

[Arch]

Yes, complain. There are unused desks at some of the lesser populated elementary schools that can and should be brought over.

This is Naperville. People complain about little piddly poo stuff all the time. A situation like that in a classroom is not a piddly poo thing, so of course, COMPLAIN.

[gatormom]

Talked to my son about WV. He says that hallways are crowded, but worse are the stairs. His lunch period is filled, but not overflowing. Getting around WV is somewhat tricky to begin with, the additions have created problems with moving around. He also says that sometimes the classes don't have enough desks at beginning of new semester, but never had anyone not have a desk for long.

[admin]

He also says that sometimes the classes don't have enough desks at beginning of new semester, but never had anyone not have a desk for long.

With more kids on the way, will they go longer into the semster w/o a desk?

[doctorwho]

desks/chairs from elementary school are smaller as I remember them from Parent-teacher nights - any shortage like this at a school here is embarassing.

[momto4]

archwinsome said:

What classes don't have enough desks? (Subject, Room#, and period)
Are all the cafeteria seats really taken or do some kids just not want to sit with others, leaving those 'buffer' empty seats all over the place?

Good questions! These are her answers.

Advisory period 3, room 357 ~40 kids ~30 desks
Sewing room - enough places to sit, not enough sewing machines
Honors Math Analysis period 7 and Chemistry period 8 exactly right number of desks

Cafeteria - there are a few empty chairs but not nearly enough to accomodate the total number of students who would like to sit at a table.

[wvhsparent]

momto4 said:

archwinsome said:

What classes don't have enough desks? (Subject, Room#, and period)
Are all the cafeteria seats really taken or do some kids just not want to sit with others, leaving those 'buffer' empty seats all over the place?

Good questions! These are her answers.


Advisory period 3, room 357 ~40 kids ~30 desks
Sewing room - enough places to sit, not enough sewing machines
Honors Math Analysis period 7 and Chemistry period 8 exactly right number of desks

Cafeteria - there are a few empty chairs but not nearly enough to accomodate the total number of students who would like to sit at a table.

My son is also a soph at WVHS...He does not have any trouble in his classes. The hallways are a bit crowded but he devised his own routes.

Advisory is kinda like Homeroom 15 min for announcements etc. so not enough seats there would not concern me.

[momto4]

wvhsparent said:

momto4 said:

Good questions! These are her answers.


Advisory period 3, room 357 ~40 kids ~30 desks
Sewing room - enough places to sit, not enough sewing machines
Honors Math Analysis period 7 and Chemistry period 8 exactly right number of desks

Cafeteria - there are a few empty chairs but not nearly enough to accomodate the total number of students who would like to sit at a table.

My son is also a soph at WVHS...He does not have any trouble in his classes. The hallways are a bit crowded but he devised his own routes.

Advisory is kinda like Homeroom 15 min for announcements etc. so not enough seats there would not concern me.

I think it's 20 minutes, but her group is meeting for Student Council where it actually might be useful to have a desk. Not a big deal though. I'm not complaining about NOW, just saying that things seem somewhat crowded now and we don't want the building to have another 1000 or so kids in it.

[fence]

wvhsparent said:

momto4 said:

Good questions! These are her answers.


Advisory period 3, room 357 ~40 kids ~30 desks
Sewing room - enough places to sit, not enough sewing machines
Honors Math Analysis period 7 and Chemistry period 8 exactly right number of desks

Cafeteria - there are a few empty chairs but not nearly enough to accomodate the total number of students who would like to sit at a table.

My son is also a soph at WVHS...He does not have any trouble in his classes. The hallways are a bit crowded but he devised his own routes.

Advisory is kinda like Homeroom 15 min for announcements etc. so not enough seats there would not concern me.

Would this be a good time to bring up the curly fry shortage for late period lunch at Hill? ;D

[Arch]

fence said:

Would this be a good time to bring up the curly fry shortage for late period lunch at Hill? ;D

Is there anything you're not telling us?
Yes..we're also out of coffee.

(For the Airplane fans)

[gatormom]

I agree Topher, with more children coming, more crowding.

Of more concern to me are the limited spaces available for some of the more specialized classes that require equipment or larger areas. Sewing appears to already have a shortage of machines. My son's drafting class has a student at every table. That room is also used for CAD.

With only so many periods a day for those classes, at what point in overcrowding do children get turned away.

[Arch]

The unfortunate truth of the matter is that the referendum as proposed does nothing for this. $125 million dollars later fixes none of this.

It would be nice to have an inventory of materials, a breakdown of those materials / student formula worked out and a budget done up to purchase said materials to ensure there are enough for XX students no matter when they hit.

*THEN* put that up for the voters to say YES to. That's a no brainer.

[wvhsparent]

Acrch...If I understand what you are saying....
I believe the figure for the 3rd HS does include equipping the school, as for as say, educational materials, ie. books, etc. those costs would be the same for 2 HS or 3 HS as it would be a per student expense.
This most likely will come in 2009.

Please clarify if you mean something else

[Arch]

The referendum language speaks only of spending on the 3rd HS. It does not say any money could go to adding anything where a deficit of equipment already exists in existing schools. *THAT* was what I was trying to point out. If a problem with 'not enough' materials exists today, the referendum (PER LANGUAGE) can not address that for anything that exists *today*.

[wvhsparent]

They tried that last time and got accused of trying to "bribe" the WVHS folks by adding repairs etc. onto the ref.

if you mean something like more sewing machines...that is a hard thing to predict...this year you may have 100 kid that want to sew and then next year only 50, what should you do. Maybe an answer would be a flexible lease or seeing if the sewing machine manufacturers will donate machines.
This is also different between the two schools.
Case in point I usually go to the genetics class at WVHS and do a presentation. There are scheduled Genetis classes for just about every period, now according to the the genetics teacher there are only 2 periods of genetics at NVHS - Why? Most likely due to demand IMO.
Is one better or worse....no, just different demands thats all.

[wvhsparent]

archwinsome said:

The referendum language speaks only of spending on the 3rd HS. It does not say any money could go to adding anything where a deficit of equipment already exists in existing schools. *THAT* was what I was trying to point out. If a problem with 'not enough' materials exists today, the referendum (PER LANGUAGE) can not address that for anything that exists *today*.

IMHO That should be part of the noraml operating budget, and we should demand the SB/Admin do something about it.