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Post by wvhsparent on Dec 6, 2007 22:42:05 GMT -6
To Be fair, as it is still also in play. How much of a change would occur for a HS at Macom?
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Post by doctorwho on Dec 7, 2007 0:00:25 GMT -6
To Be fair, as it is still also in play. How much of a change would occur for a HS at Macom? the last time I ran a boundary scenario for someone who sent me their boundaries in my EXCEL book o plenty achievement - split wise it looked like this: MV: Fry / WE / Graham / Peterson / Owen (W of 59) / Gombert WV: Steck / Brooks / Brookdale /Young / McCarty / Georgetown/ Longwood NV: Clow / Patterson / Springbrook/ Watts/ Owen (e of 59) /Builta/ Welch / Cowlishaw Freshman Ctr @ NV attainment- gap: MV 92.9 WV 89.7 NV 93.4 GAP only 3.7 ------------------------------------------------- also ran this one with Freshman Ctr remaining at WV instead: MV: Fry / WE / Graham / Peterson / Owen (w of 59) / Gombert / Georgetown WV : Watts / Steck / Brooks / Brookdale / Young / McCarty / Cowlishaw / Longwood / Owen ( e of 59) NV: Clow / Patterson / Springrbook/ Builta /Welch / Kendall Attainment-gap: MV 92.6 WV 90.5 NV 93.5 GAP only 3.0 |
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Post by rew on Dec 7, 2007 7:21:09 GMT -6
The interesting thing about this one is there is a front page article in the DH about the "dangerous intersections" and I was thinking, what site, what boundaries would keep kids on one side or the other of Rt 59...Macom w NV at 4000 requires one school, BD to cross 59.
BTW the most dangerous intersection is Rt 59/ N Aurora, second is Rt 59/Diehl
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Post by gatordog on Dec 7, 2007 8:07:49 GMT -6
To Be fair, as it is still also in play. How much of a change would occur for a HS at Macom? the last time I ran a boundary scenario for someone who sent me their boundaries in my EXCEL book o plenty achievement - split wise it looked like this: MV: Fry / WE / Graham / Peterson / Owen (W of 59) / Gombert WV: Steck / Brooks / Brookdale /Young / McCarty / Georgetown/ Longwood NV: Clow / Patterson / Springbrook/ Watts/ Owen (e of 59) /Builta/ Welch / Cowlishaw Freshman Ctr @ NV attainment- gap: MV 92.9 WV 89.7 NV 93.4 GAP only 3.7 ------------------------------------------------- for this case....where is Kendall? Its a tricky one, I know.... |
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Post by doctorwho on Dec 7, 2007 8:47:58 GMT -6
the last time I ran a boundary scenario for someone who sent me their boundaries in my EXCEL book o plenty achievement - split wise it looked like this: MV: Fry / WE / Graham / Peterson / Owen (W of 59) / Gombert WV: Steck / Brooks / Brookdale /Young / McCarty / Georgetown/ Longwood NV: Clow / Patterson / Springbrook/ Watts/ Owen (e of 59) /Builta/ Welch / Cowlishaw Freshman Ctr @ NV attainment- gap: MV 92.9 WV 89.7 NV 93.4 GAP only 3.7 ------------------------------------------------- for this case....where is Kendall? Its a tricky one, I know.... sorry it was calc'd into the attainment , just missed typing it -- it is at NV |
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Post by bob on Dec 7, 2007 9:36:55 GMT -6
MV looks light in enrollment in that scenario.
assuming 500 per school
Fry / WE / Graham =1500
Peterson/ Owen (W of 59) / Gombert
cannot produce anywhere near 1500.
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Post by doctorwho on Dec 7, 2007 9:46:52 GMT -6
MV looks light in enrollment in that scenario. assuming 500 per school Fry / WE / Graham =1500 Peterson/ Owen (W of 59) / Gombert cannot produce anywhere near 1500. Clow should also be MV MV 3860 WV 4312 NV 5073 feeder attendance - not HS attendance |
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Post by scarbroughknight on Dec 7, 2007 10:03:15 GMT -6
for this case....where is Kendall? Its a tricky one, I know.... sorry it was calc'd into the attainment , just missed typing it -- it is at NV Kendall at NV and Owen at MV? Doesn't make sense. |
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Post by rew on Dec 7, 2007 10:30:32 GMT -6
It does when you consider that 1/2 of Owen is across the street from White Eagle.
Graham and Kendall are interchangeable at Macom, they are the same size.
Owen could attend NV and Kendall at MV but you have to account for growth in Kendalls area, plus growth at Peterson
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Post by warriorpride on Dec 15, 2007 8:15:07 GMT -6
To Be fair, as it is still also in play. How much of a change would occur for a HS at Macom? the last time I ran a boundary scenario for someone who sent me their boundaries in my EXCEL book o plenty achievement - split wise it looked like this: MV: Fry / WE / Graham / Peterson / Owen (W of 59) / Gombert WV: Steck / Brooks / Brookdale /Young / McCarty / Georgetown/ Longwood NV: Clow / Patterson / Springbrook/ Watts/ Owen (e of 59) /Builta/ Welch / Cowlishaw Freshman Ctr @ NV attainment- gap: MV 92.9 WV 89.7 NV 93.4 GAP only 3.7 ------------------------------------------------- also ran this one with Freshman Ctr remaining at WV instead: MV: Fry / WE / Graham / Peterson / Owen (w of 59) / Gombert / Georgetown WV : Watts / Steck / Brooks / Brookdale / Young / McCarty / Cowlishaw / Longwood / Owen ( e of 59) NV: Clow / Patterson / Springrbook/ Builta /Welch / Kendall Attainment-gap: MV 92.6 WV 90.5 NV 93.5 GAP only 3.0 Since we don't know what's-what with the MV site, I'd like to revisit the Macom site. If MV ends up at Macom, I found it interesting that the boundary scenarios looked at on this forum came up with the best (smallest) achivement gap with keeping the freshman center at WV. If this was done, NV Gold would then be MS #7. Since Macom puts the HS #3 farther south, which is where many believe it should be, wouldn't it make sense to have MS #7 farther south, too? What are the drawbacks of this scneario? Logistically, I understand that WV Gold is across a busy intesection, but I'd be surprised if any is walking between NV Gold & the main campus, either (dues to distance) - my point being that buses are probably used in either case. Would MS boudaries be easier is this scenario? |
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Post by EagleDad on Dec 15, 2007 8:30:18 GMT -6
If you wind up turning the Freshman campus at NV into a Middle School, I believe some of the most crowded Middle Schools (i.e. Scullen) become easier to reboundary. It's all about where the population is, the center of which used to be at ~ Rt. 59 and Montgomery - and heading south.
That said, I think you might need to keep the freshman center at NV. There are just so many kids down there it's hard to get it down to a 3000 student school.
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Post by doctorwho on Dec 15, 2007 8:38:48 GMT -6
the last time I ran a boundary scenario for someone who sent me their boundaries in my EXCEL book o plenty achievement - split wise it looked like this: MV: Fry / WE / Graham / Peterson / Owen (W of 59) / Gombert WV: Steck / Brooks / Brookdale /Young / McCarty / Georgetown/ Longwood NV: Clow / Patterson / Springbrook/ Watts/ Owen (e of 59) /Builta/ Welch / Cowlishaw Freshman Ctr @ NV attainment- gap: MV 92.9 WV 89.7 NV 93.4 GAP only 3.7 ------------------------------------------------- also ran this one with Freshman Ctr remaining at WV instead: MV: Fry / WE / Graham / Peterson / Owen (w of 59) / Gombert / Georgetown WV : Watts / Steck / Brooks / Brookdale / Young / McCarty / Cowlishaw / Longwood / Owen ( e of 59) NV: Clow / Patterson / Springrbook/ Builta /Welch / Kendall Attainment-gap: MV 92.6 WV 90.5 NV 93.5 GAP only 3.0 Since we don't know what's-what with the MV site, I'd like to revisit the Macom site. If MV ends up at Macom, I found it interesting that the boundary scenarios looked at on this forum came up with the best (smallest) achivement gap with keeping the freshman center at WV. If this was done, NV Gold would then be MS #7. Since Macom puts the HS #3 farther south, which is where many believe it should be, wouldn't it make sense to have MS #7 farther south, too? What are the drawbacks of this scneario? Logistically, I understand that WV Gold is across a busy intesection, but I'd be surprised if any is walking between NV Gold & the main campus, either (dues to distance) - my point being that buses are probably used in either case. Would MS boudaries be easier is this scenario? the gap for either scenario is pretty good and fairly comparable ( and I know no one wants to hear it but 1/2 of the scenarios we can up with north) -- either config works. In the one with WV freshman center - some tweaks would have to be done whe doing other boundaries to accomodate any walkers from Georgetown & Gombert. I have these plotted out - so can make tweaks easily based on people's recommendations. |
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Post by EagleDad on Dec 15, 2007 8:41:12 GMT -6
I remember when "tweak" was a bad word. Oh how times have changed.   |
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Post by doctorwho on Dec 15, 2007 8:46:02 GMT -6
I remember when "tweak" was a bad word. Oh how times have changed. yep - now facing MS and likely some ES boundary changes - it has become acceptable -- funny ( or maybe not so funny) how times change |
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Post by warriorpride on Dec 15, 2007 11:32:34 GMT -6
If you wind up turning the Freshman campus at NV into a Middle School, I believe some of the most crowded Middle Schools (i.e. Scullen) become easier to reboundary. It's all about where the population is, the center of which used to be at ~ Rt. 59 and Montgomery - and heading south. That said, I think you might need to keep the freshman center at NV. There are just so many kids down there it's hard to get it down to a 3000 student school. Perhaps the boundaries for both MV and the re-dos for the MSs should be done at the same time? It would allow the SB to determine which Gold campus should be converted back to an MS. There's been tons of criteria discussed for the HS boundaries, but I don't recall much for the new MS bondaries. Doing the MS and HS boundaries at the same time, and only during that process deciding which Gold campus becomes MS #7, the SB might be able to achieve some things that could not be achieved if the HS and MS boundaries were each done independantly. It just seems to me that having WV Gold and Still so close together, and not particularly south, that the MS boundaries could be difficult. I'm not the boundary guy, though, so I might be wrong. |
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