The Macom Deal

[casey]

bob said:

It isn't my deal. I prefer Macom over all the sites left unless BB comes back at a better price (which probably won't happen)

The sites are known except for the 4th site. Maybe the SB is under a NDA for not disclosing the 4th site.

Well at least we can agree on something - Macom is the best deal of the sites left.

I'm off for the night. No more posting for me.

[yeson321]

warriorpride said:

I'd just like to interject here & restate that the only way I'd be accepting of going with Macom would be if the $ advantage (compared to any other site) is HUGE. To me, Lehman's got multi-family land that he thinks he can't build on, and expensive single-family homes that might not be going like hotcakes (and he's partly blaming on Ashwood feeding into WV). If we build MV on Macom, WE'D be the one doing the favor, not vice versa.

A swap of the BB 25 seems equitable. That's it, no additional $. I'm serious - Macom must be pretty desparate for this thing to go public one again. If the SB has another property on the table, they are the ones holding the cards.

OK - that's it, no more Macom discussion for me. Back to your regularly scheduled discussion...

This exemplifies why I am worried that Macom won't get a fair shake. Personal feelings regarding whatever PL/Macom has said/done in the past should be ignored if it is in the best interest of the kids in the district. Commute times and boundaries would have the least negative impact on the district next to BB. That IMHO should be the most important criteria.

[slp]

yeson321 said:

warriorpride said:

I'd just like to interject here & restate that the only way I'd be accepting of going with Macom would be if the $ advantage (compared to any other site) is HUGE. To me, Lehman's got multi-family land that he thinks he can't build on, and expensive single-family homes that might not be going like hotcakes (and he's partly blaming on Ashwood feeding into WV). If we build MV on Macom, WE'D be the one doing the favor, not vice versa.

A swap of the BB 25 seems equitable. That's it, no additional $. I'm serious - Macom must be pretty desparate for this thing to go public one again. If the SB has another property on the table, they are the ones holding the cards.

OK - that's it, no more Macom discussion for me. Back to your regularly scheduled discussion...

This exemplifies why I am worried that Macom won't get a fair shake. Personal feelings regarding whatever PL/Macom has said/done in the past should be ignored if it is in the best interest of the kids in the district. Commute times and boundaries would have the least negative impact on the district next to BB. That IMHO should be the most important criteria.

I agree. The decision made by the board needs to be in the best interest of the kids in this district and not based on personal biases and/or personal feelings.

[warriorpride]

slp said:

yeson321 said:

This exemplifies why I am worried that Macom won't get a fair shake. Personal feelings regarding whatever PL/Macom has said/done in the past should be ignored if it is in the best interest of the kids in the district. Commute times and boundaries would have the least negative impact on the district next to BB. That IMHO should be the most important criteria.

I agree. The decision made by the board needs to be in the best interest of the kids in this district and not based on personal biases and/or personal feelings.

IMO the school needs to get built ASAP, on budget. For those of you not likely to go to WV, you're probably less inclined to care about that fact that WV will be crowded for 2 years AFTER MV is opened, as they condense down to the Green campus.

[proschool]

warriorpride said:

slp said:

I agree. The decision made by the board needs to be in the best interest of the kids in this district and not based on personal biases and/or personal feelings.

IMO the school needs to get built ASAP, on budget. For those of you not likely to go to WV, you're probably less inclined to care about that fact that WV will be crowded for 2 years AFTER MV is opened, as they condense down to the Green campus.

No we care. I always said that we can relieve pressure on by placing all MV freshman at MV for two years. MV can easily serve as a northern freshman campus.

[macy]

bob said:

How about some Sangria?

Anyone know of a good Sangria in a box?

[warriorpride]

proschool said:

warriorpride said:

IMO the school needs to get built ASAP, on budget. For those of you not likely to go to WV, you're probably less inclined to care about that fact that WV will be crowded for 2 years AFTER MV is opened, as they condense down to the Green campus.

No we care. I always said that we can relieve pressure on by placing all MV freshman at MV for two years. MV can easily serve as a northern freshman campus.

An interesting idea that might look good on paper, but I doubt is feasible - how would all of the extracurriculars work?

[macy]

warriorpride said:

proschool said:

No we care. I always said that we can relieve pressure on by placing all MV freshman at MV for two years. MV can easily serve as a northern freshman campus.

An interesting idea that might look good on paper, but I doubt is feasible - how would all of the extracurriculars work?

Waubonsie Valley, with the established boundaries for Metea at BB, is crowded in light of the fact they lose the Gold Campus.

Wouldn't that be something that would possibly change with a new site and new boundaries?

ETA: Gatordog... you are the spreadsheet master, work the numbers for us.

[warriorpride]

macy said:

warriorpride said:

An interesting idea that might look good on paper, but I doubt is feasible - how would all of the extracurriculars work?

Waubonsie Valley, with the established boundaries for Metea at BB, is crowded in light of the fact they lose the Gold Campus.

Wouldn't that be something that would possibly change with a new site and new boundaries?

ETA: Gatordog... you are the spreadsheet master, work the numbers for us.

If the suggestion is that there be "temporary" boundaries for a few years, I'd like to see someone that's interested in being a part of that.

[macy]

warriorpride said:

macy said:

Waubonsie Valley, with the established boundaries for Metea at BB, is crowded in light of the fact they lose the Gold Campus.

Wouldn't that be something that would possibly change with a new site and new boundaries?

ETA: Gatordog... you are the spreadsheet master, work the numbers for us.

If the suggestion is that there be "temporary" boundaries for a few years, I'd like to see someone that's interested in being a part of that.

Not what I meant, nor was thinking.

Waubonsie is crowded for a few years after Metea is built at BB, with the boundaries set for that location.

Who knows what enrollment Waubonsie will be at with an alternate location? It's impossible to know whether or not it will be overcrowded if the site shifts somewhere else?

[d204mom]

Isn't NV also overcrowded for 2 years following the opening of MV, until the Jrs and Srs leave?

MV is "undercrowded" for 2 years; NV and WV are overcrowded.

[d204mom]

I understand that WV gets the worst of it with the freshman center closing.

[doctorwho]

warriorpride said:

proschool said:

No we care. I always said that we can relieve pressure on by placing all MV freshman at MV for two years. MV can easily serve as a northern freshman campus.

An interesting idea that might look good on paper, but I doubt is feasible - how would all of the extracurriculars work?

How do freshman 'varsity' players participate ? ( and before anyone says freshman don't play varsity - look no further than WV state soccer champs ) - how does a 'freshman campus' offer all the classes needed to support kids who are very advanced - and are now going to an advanced junior high ? And more bussing costs -

[macy]

d204mom said:

I understand that WV gets the worst of it with the freshman center closing.

Yes, true.

With the current set of boundaries with Metea at BB...

A new site might be a whole different story.
From what I've seen on this board, a North site would be difficult to balance enrollment especially in the future.

[proschool]

doctorwho said:

warriorpride said:

An interesting idea that might look good on paper, but I doubt is feasible - how would all of the extracurriculars work?

How do freshman 'varsity' players participate ? ( and before anyone says freshman don't play varsity - look no further than WV state soccer champs ) - how does a 'freshman campus' offer all the classes needed to support kids who are very advanced - and are now going to an advanced junior high ? And more bussing costs -

I imagine the extracurriculars work just like they would have been working at MV without WV freshman present and similar to the way they work at WV Green campus today.

I am not an expert on how to work with varsity athletes or gifted students. I would think that more students at MV would mean expanded opportunities for varsity sports teams at MV. There are many ways to deal with advanced students and there will be plenty of space to work with them at MV. Again a large student body creates more opportunity for students to meet with similar peers.

You may be right about bussing costs. But when schools are crowded new schools are built and students move into additional schools often with increases bussing costs. This is really no different than what has always happened. Do the freshman campuses share the same bus as the Gold campuses today, or do they have their own busses? Isn't it still possible for to drop off the freshmen at one campus and the upperclassmen at another if the schools are only ten minutes apart from each other?

I don't know the logistics but I do know that if my kid was a freshman, I would be happy to have her away from a situation where she would be part of a small contingency of freshmen and sophomores in a school that was overcrowded and dominated by upperclassmen.