Bolingbrook site.

[wvhsparent]

Is this area still in play too? Boundary senarios for here?

[doctorwho]

wvhsparent said:

Is this area still in play too? Boundary senarios for here?

Here was one shot I was asked to run: ( remember no shooting the messanger )

MV: Patterson / Graham / Springbrook / Kendall / Peterson / Builta

WV: Steck / Brooks / Brookdale / Young / McCarty / Georgetown/ Longwood

NV: Clow / Fry / Watts / White Eagle / Owen / Welch / Cowlishaw/ Gombert

Freshman center stays at NV.

attainment - GAP: MV 94.0 WV 89.7 NV 92.7 GAP 4.3

note only HS placement where NV is not highest attainment

[rew]

Is there a single other site , north or south, east of Rt 59?

[EagleDad]

Wagner Farm

[gatordog]

doctorwho, and others, will no doubt appreciate the dripping irony of this.

Consider any non-Macom southern solution. Gombert is in the Watts boat (worse, I believe).

I will say location "cost"--measure however you want: time, tank of gas, etc-- for Macom is a wash with BB. Also, we would go to the new 3000 seat HS. In a strict since, in this case, we in Gombert are getting what we voted for with a 248th assignment. OK.

But what about a non-macom southern alternative?

(For starters, as opposed to Watts&Cowl, there is zero chance we would stay where we are at WV. Just no room. Lets forge on and compare with the Watts/Cowl moving north assignement assumption. But recongize, it may well NOT come to pass.)

In neighbors coming with with us, I will very charitably say we are in the comparable situation. Gombert East can say they are going with their Owen West neighbors. Fine. Then I will assume main Gombert is equal neighbors with WE as Watts is with Cowl. One standard I have is "its a neighborhood if kids ride their bikes to see friends in other neighborhood." Nobody here does that over the RR tracks to WE. Understandably so. They go to Geotown area all the time.

We are exactly in same situation in that Watts neighbors to the north are 203. When Watts pulled north, its not with their natural neighbors for schools. SAME DEAL for Gombert when pulled south. Our southern neighbors are Oswego 308. They very much pass the "bicycle standard". My kids ride bikes there, see friends there. Typically, for Wheatland Athletic teams, my neighborhood kids are assigned to teams with these 308 kids.

Lets go further with the non-macom site.
Now, Gomberts increase distance cost is now much higher. approx 3 mile incr one way from what we "bought" into. That is bigger increase than what Watt and Cowl may be asked to incure. Yes, a southern site may prevent Watt/Cowl from area from unfortunately bearing a burden of a 2 mi incr for their personal car travels. But then it imposes on another area, a 3 mi incr. Its a zero sum game.

Finally, and here is the big cost that Watts/Cowl will NOT have if they are worried about a northern alternative. They still get to go to the 3000 seat HS. Your vote was cast expecting that. And you get it. However, a far south site may well send Gombert to the 4200 seat school. We did not vote for that. I strongly argue that the children here will have a very different HS experience due to that 40% size incr.

Fundamentally, if my area is assigned to the 40% large school, our neighborhoods cost to the kids HS experience is immeasurable more than a 5 or 10 minute (or whatever) commute increase for jr and senior driving to school.

I encourage this consideration by our friends in the Watts & Cowl area. Fundamentally, isnt the most important experience for Watts, Cowlishaw, and Gombert students what happens when they are at HS for both schooling and extracurriculars, NOT how they get there?

[Arch]

As usual, GD, a great post and good way to spell it out from another perspective.

[rew]

I find your post imteresting GD...should the criteria be a single families burden..your 3mi increase vs someone else's 2 mi increase. Or should it be 500 at Gombert go an addt'l 3mi, (1500 more miles) while 1300 at Watts/Cowl go 2mi (2600 more mi). I knoiw what the answer is for you, but what should the answer be for the district?

In regards to the 3000 vs 4200.. you currently live in a 4200 capacity HS attendance area and nothing says that a site change could not mean that WV keeps it's frosh center and stays at 4200. Better hang on to your hat, everything's up for grabs.

[gatordog]

rew said:

I find your post imteresting GD...should the criteria be a single families burden..your 3mi increase vs someone else's 2 mi increase. Or should it be 500 at Gombert go an addt'l 3mi, (1500 more miles) while 1300 at Watts/Cowl go 2mi (2600 more mi). I knoiw what the answer is for you, but what should the answer be for the district?

Dont stop there.....keep going, because other areas are of course less in turn. (BD. LONG, etc). I did make statement that "it was a zero sum game". My intent was not some "mileage optimation" for entire district, but making analogy.

In regards to the 3000 vs 4200.. you currently live in a 4200 capacity HS attendance area and nothing says that a site change could not mean that WV keeps it's frosh center and stays at 4200. Better hang on to your hat, everything's up for grabs.

Yes, WV might keep gold in some scenarios. I hope not, in terms of layout. NV Gold right next to the main is of course a better, permanent Fresh cntr layout.

I do prefer the smaller size school. But you must understand, should my area incur the cost of higher enrollment, we'd clearly gain in reduced distance and neighborhood cohesion.

[momof3]

It would make more sense in this scenario to send BD or LW to NV and leave GOM at WV

Longwood to WV = 5.59 miles
Longwood to NV = 6.35

Brookdale to WV = 6.27
Brookdale to NV = 6.36

Gombert to WV = 1.09
Gombert to NV = 4.51

[rew]

That's a nice solution MO3, They are all , GOM, LW and BD about the same enrollment. Good idea!