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Post by warriorpride on Dec 19, 2007 13:44:31 GMT -6
...Many with kids in middle school right now may feel differently than me because opening the school as soon as possible is their #1 priority... bingo - as I said, different perspectives & priorities
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Post by doctorwho on Dec 19, 2007 14:02:16 GMT -6
Again, I think that the Brookdale NO was a function of two things: - Could have cut over 2 miles from their commute to high school - Would not be split from their middle school I don't agree with anyone that says going 2 miles or more "farther" is no big deal. It is. Witness Gombert and Fry's unhappiness with going 2 miles farther. Brookdale going to MV at BB would have chopped about 3 miles off their commute, more for areas closer. I personally think it stinks for an elementary school to go 6 miles to high school. Brookdale got majorly screwed. Now the board wants to fix that by putting the school in a location that 3 to 5 schools will have to travel that far to high school. It stinks and is short-sighted. Many with kids in middle school right now may feel differently than me because opening the school as soon as possible is their #1 priority, and being short sighted about location is ok in that situation. I posted earlier that the wording on Daeschner's goals, approved by the board, note that MONEY and TIMELINESS are the only priority. Okay my house in Watts is 5.91 miles to Waubonsie Valley ( reference the 6 for BD you mention) and we travel all the way into BD for MS as well and I would sign up now for the same commute I have to WV -- try 8 - 10 depending on northern site - Ferry Road being even more beyond reason than AME for us. If I would have followed the same logic I should have voted no when we weren't going to go to NV 10 years ago. That cut more than a mile off my commute also - but WV was the school when I moved in here, so I didn't see where I had a valid complaint. I have an 8th grader and I don't fall under the ASAP only umbrella - I want both a good site and ASAP..... the site is forever.
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Post by bob on Dec 19, 2007 14:02:37 GMT -6
Going to WV over MV (BB) is like 1.75 miles extra using the Ogden 59 corner as the diverging point.
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Post by d204mom on Dec 19, 2007 14:03:07 GMT -6
This seems like an appropriate break for a letter to the editor. We are all coming unglued. He is talking about us. Ha!Ha! It's funny because it's true. It's funny and true. Waiting to see 'yes' voters come unglued And so, here we are 21 months after District 204 and its minions spent more than $60,000 to convince taxpayers to vote "yes" for a third high school. The Brach-Brodie farm, which the district told taxpayers would cost $257,000 an acre, came in at a price of almost $550,000 an acre and so we have a $140 million price tag for a school the district said would cost $126 million. In the meantime, District 204 elementary school enrollment has declined for the last two years in a row for a 284-student decline. So, where does that leave us? We have a referendum passed based on false land acquisition costs, false enrollment projections and boundaries that the district can change on a whim. Taxes are up and savvy buyers are moving elsewhere to avoid the highest taxes in DuPage County. Residents can't sell their homes, due in part to the high taxes, and subdivisions like Tallgrass are having a fire sale with homes for sale on every corner. When the district picks a new location for the unneeded third high school and changes the boundaries post referendum, I can't wait to watch people come unglued because they voted to have their taxes raised because they somehow thought it would be good for their property values. Paul White Naperville I'm thinkng of a theme song to go along with this letter. www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsm2hSKkH7EWell, except it would be LOVE to say I Told You So
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Post by d204mom on Dec 19, 2007 14:05:32 GMT -6
Going to WV over MV (BB) is like 1.75 miles extra using the Ogden 59 corner as the diverging point. It's roughly 3 miles using the elementary school and corner of Rt. 59 and 75th street. But good point, even 1.75 miles farther got 80% NO. Even more to my point that people want to go to the HS closest to their home, no matter how much closer.
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Post by rew on Dec 19, 2007 14:05:57 GMT -6
Wp, if people were hanging on to the "bottom line benefit", they would be scrapping to go to the new school. I think the majority in the district wish the new boundaries left them alone.
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Post by bob on Dec 19, 2007 14:07:48 GMT -6
Wow, Tallgrass has that many home for sale? Let's see if a simple Google search can prove him wrong.
Hmmmmmm, RealtyTrac has 6 homes for sale.
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Post by warriorpride on Dec 19, 2007 14:11:56 GMT -6
blah, blah, blah Paul White Naperville I think it's funny that he blames 204 for a down housing market
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Post by EagleDad on Dec 19, 2007 14:11:59 GMT -6
Waiting to see 'yes' voters come unglued And so, here we are 21 months after District 204 and its minions spent more than $60,000 to convince taxpayers to vote "yes" for a third high school. The Brach-Brodie farm, which the district told taxpayers would cost $257,000 an acre, came in at a price of almost $550,000 an acre and so we have a $140 million price tag for a school the district said would cost $126 million. In the meantime, District 204 elementary school enrollment has declined for the last two years in a row for a 284-student decline. So, where does that leave us? We have a referendum passed based on false land acquisition costs, false enrollment projections and boundaries that the district can change on a whim. Taxes are up and savvy buyers are moving elsewhere to avoid the highest taxes in DuPage County. Residents can't sell their homes, due in part to the high taxes, and subdivisions like Tallgrass are having a fire sale with homes for sale on every corner. When the district picks a new location for the unneeded third high school and changes the boundaries post referendum, I can't wait to watch people come unglued because they voted to have their taxes raised because they somehow thought it would be good for their property values. Paul White Naperville what an a-hole. Really knows how to make friends, doesn't he? EagleDad - and proud Minion Spender
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Post by bob on Dec 19, 2007 14:12:55 GMT -6
Zip Realty shows 443 for all of Naperville Will County.
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Post by warriorpride on Dec 19, 2007 14:15:02 GMT -6
unfortunately it appears she signed herself out -- I hope she returns. ( if you're reading as a guest - please consider returning ) oh, I think she's back
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Post by d204mom on Dec 19, 2007 14:19:27 GMT -6
Wow, Tallgrass has that many home for sale? Let's see if a simple Google search can prove him wrong. Hmmmmmm, RealtyTrac has 6 homes for sale. I don't agree with most of the content except the unglued part.
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Post by bob on Dec 19, 2007 14:26:57 GMT -6
If a real good libel lawyer hooked up with the homeowner's in TG and/or real estate agents, this could be real fun.
Imagine if you are one of the 14 people trying to sell a house in TG and prospective buyers read that.
macy, you guys can't be happy with that quote.
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Post by doctorwho on Dec 19, 2007 14:29:58 GMT -6
This seems like an appropriate break for a letter to the editor. We are all coming unglued. He is talking about us. Ha!Ha! It's funny because it's true. It's funny and true. Waiting to see 'yes' voters come unglued And so, here we are 21 months after District 204 and its minions spent more than $60,000 to convince taxpayers to vote "yes" for a third high school. The Brach-Brodie farm, which the district told taxpayers would cost $257,000 an acre, came in at a price of almost $550,000 an acre and so we have a $140 million price tag for a school the district said would cost $126 million. In the meantime, District 204 elementary school enrollment has declined for the last two years in a row for a 284-student decline. So, where does that leave us? We have a referendum passed based on false land acquisition costs, false enrollment projections and boundaries that the district can change on a whim. Taxes are up and savvy buyers are moving elsewhere to avoid the highest taxes in DuPage County. Residents can't sell their homes, due in part to the high taxes, and subdivisions like Tallgrass are having a fire sale with homes for sale on every corner. When the district picks a new location for the unneeded third high school and changes the boundaries post referendum, I can't wait to watch people come unglued because they voted to have their taxes raised because they somehow thought it would be good for their property values. Paul White Naperville I'm thinkng of a theme song to go along with this letter. www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsm2hSKkH7EWell, except it would be LOVE to say I Told You So Leave it to Paul White to get the facts wrong, but not stand in the way of a good rant -- the student population did not go down - and I can tell you I for one did not vote YES for any property value reasons as I do not think BB would have done a thing for values here - wouldn't hurt them - wouldn't help them. I do believe however that eventually a site 10 miles from here would have an effect negatively. Not sure how much if any it would lower a value, but it would make it harder/longer to sell with MS and HS half a district away. The sales of homes have nothing to do with the taxes or else no one would ever buy in Cook County whose taxes are higher - and Will county is also higher than Dupage IIRC - my sister lives in Will and is tied to D203 and her tax mutliplier is higher than mine. Houses are not selling because if Paul read the papers he would see there is a nationwide housing debacle right now - do they all live in D204 ? so the post may be funny, like most of his are, but True is another story.
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Post by EagleDad on Dec 19, 2007 14:34:39 GMT -6
Wow, Tallgrass has that many home for sale? Let's see if a simple Google search can prove him wrong. Hmmmmmm, RealtyTrac has 6 homes for sale. I don't agree with most of the content except the unglued part. According to Google maps there are ~76 corners in Tallgrass. Therefore the statement "subdivisions like Tallgrass are having a fire sale with homes for sale on every corner." is at least 92% wrong, even if each of these 6 homes happened to be on a corner.
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