Boundaries with MS-North

[bob]

Zillow has 16 homes for sale in TG. With about 32 sold in the last 6 months. One for $1.5 million. Now that is a fire sale.

See how CFO members turn on an area they once wanted support from.

[doctorwho]

warriorpride said:

d204mom said:

blah, blah, blah

Paul White
Naperville

I think it's funny that he blames 204 for a down housing market

Yep, we are bringing the entire US housing market down with us -

[d204mom]

I think if we are all truly honest with ourselves, we would see that every thread that references the new high school being someplace besides Brach Brodie, everyone comes unglued to the point where it just devolves into a shouting match.

So attack away if anyone thinks that's not true.

[bob]

I have even a better one

www.elmhurst.org/whatshot/ptDuPageComp.pdf


2006 Total Tax Rate (*) 2005 %
Rank Community Rate Rate Rank Inc/(Dec)
1 Glendale Heights 8.1997 8.2058 1 -0.07%
2 West Chicago 7.5812 7.8201 2 -3.05%
3 Aurora 7.5493 7.7831 3 -3.00%
4 Hanover Park 7.4833 7.4596 4 0.32%
5 Bartlett 7.2733 7.0747 8 2.81%
6 Woodridge 7.2574 7.4434 5 -2.50%
7 Carol Stream 7.2421 7.1310 7 1.56%
8 Bolingbrook 6.9739 7.1786 6 -2.85%
9 Winfield 6.4223 6.7017 9 -4.17%
10 Wayne 6.2377 6.2543 11 -0.27%
11 Glen Ellyn 6.1682 6.3061 10 -2.19%
12 Lombard 6.0824 6.1611 13 -1.28%
13 Lisle 6.0600 6.2046 12 -2.33%
14 Bensenville 5.9962 6.0164 15 -0.34%
15 Wheaton 5.9093 6.0766 14 -2.75%
16 Elk Grove Village 5.9050 5.9630 17 -0.97%
17 Warrenville 5.8414 5.9949 16 -2.56%
18 Bloomingdale 5.6681 5.8430 18 -2.99%
19 Villa Park 5.6618 5.8144 20 -2.62%
20 Naperville 5.6157 5.7984 21 -3.15%
21 Roselle 5.5843 5.8261 19 -4.15%
22 Itasca 5.4958 5.5084 23 -0.23%
23 Addison 5.4903 5.5531 22 -1.13%
24 Darien 5.1998 5.4518 24 -4.62%
25 Wood Dale 5.1479 5.2693 25 -2.30%
26 Westmont 5.0391 5.1628 26 -2.40%
27 Elmhurst 4.9923 5.1431 27 -2.93%
28 Clarendon Hills 4.6525 4.7886 28 -2.84%
29 Downers Grove 4.6251 4.7841 29 -3.32%
30 Hinsdale 4.0816 4.2088 30 -3.02%
31 Oak Brook Terrace 4.0565 4.0658 31 -0.23%
32 Burr Ridge 3.9223 4.0388 32 -2.88%
33 Willowbrook 3.7758 3.9136 33 -3.52%
34 Oak Brook 2.7127 2.7896 34 -2.76%
Source: DuPage County Clerk's Office
(*) For Communities located in multiple Townships, rate for Township
with highest EAV in DuPage County was used in comparison.

[bob]

www.dupage.k12.il.us/pdf/Tax%20Rates%20-%20Unit%20%26%20HS.pdf

u46 tax rate 4.7593
204 4.6678

hmmm not #1 .

[EagleDad]

d204mom said:

I think if we are all truly honest with ourselves, we would see that every thread that references the new high school being someplace besides Brach Brodie, everyone comes unglued to the point where it just devolves into a shouting match.

So attack away if anyone thinks that's not true.

Having been guilty of loosing my glue a few times over the last few weeks myself I'd have to agree.

But what's the alternative? Do nothing? Have the decisions made in private in a vacuum? Personally I think debate amongst the deeply involved, passionate, and informed parents of the district is healthy and good. It helps one to understand the different perspectives and viewpoints.

[doctorwho]

eagledad said:

d204mom said:

I think if we are all truly honest with ourselves, we would see that every thread that references the new high school being someplace besides Brach Brodie, everyone comes unglued to the point where it just devolves into a shouting match.

So attack away if anyone thinks that's not true.

Having been guilty of loosing my glue a few times over the last few weeks myself I'd have to agree.

But what's the alternative? Do nothing? Have the decisions made in private in a vacuum? Personally I think debate amongst the deeply involved, passionate, and informed parents of the district is healthy and good. It helps one to understand the different perspectives and viewpoints.

and much cheaper than a shrink !

[yeson321]

d204mom said:

I think if we are all truly honest with ourselves, we would see that every thread that references the new high school being someplace besides Brach Brodie, everyone comes unglued to the point where it just devolves into a shouting match.

So attack away if anyone thinks that's not true.

IMHO, the Northern site has many more lives negatively impacted commute-wise than Macom. I have yet to see (besides power lines) any issues that people have with the Macom site when it comes to commute times. If Gombert or other areas feel impacted, at least there are more boundary alternatives for the Southern site that may be able to leave them at WVHS. A Northern site just does not give the boundary options.

[confused]

I'm just catching up on a whole day's worth of fun - holy cow you guys have been busy! I was particularly interested in the dialogue around biases. WP, you seem to think that it's o.k. for an SB to use his/her personal biases in these decisions. Yes, when it pertains to general life feelings and life experiences, NO when it pertains to using his/her position to better his/her own personal situation, at the cost of what's best for the district. This is a situation where selection of a north site with completely random, unsubstantiated reasons for turning down better scenarios like Macom - which could easily draw kids from Waubonsie & Neuqua - or Wagner, which could easily do the same, would be a blatant case of personal preference to benefit one's own area.

[we4]

eagledad said:

d204mom said:

I don't agree with most of the content except the unglued part.

According to Google maps there are ~76 corners in Tallgrass. Therefore the statement "subdivisions like Tallgrass are having a fire sale with homes for sale on every corner." is at least 92% wrong, even if each of these 6 homes happened to be on a corner.

Time for humor.

Only ED would count every corner in a subdivision.

I think I'm going to count the flakes of snow on my deck with my minions. ;D

[wvhsparent]

momto4 said:

d204mom said:

Absolutely, yes, I agree.

To my earlier point that anyone that thinks that Daeschner and the board are trying to come up with the best solution for "the good of the district" is kidding themselves.

How would any particular solution benefit the administration or Daeschner in particular? I think having the school at AME would not be much benefit to him personally and in fact would cause an increase in already bad traffic in an intersection he must use regularly.

And his daughters, both of whom are in HS (WVHS) already will likely finish out there anyway.

[warriorpride]

confused said:

I'm just catching up on a whole day's worth of fun - holy cow you guys have been busy! I was particularly interested in the dialogue around biases. WP, you seem to think that it's o.k. for an SB to use his/her personal biases in these decisions. Yes, when it pertains to general life feelings and life experiences, NO when it pertains to using his/her position to better his/her own personal situation, at the cost of what's best for the district. This is a situation where selection of a north site with completely random, unsubstantiated reasons for turning down better scenarios like Macom - which could easily draw kids from Waubonsie & Neuqua - or Wagner, which could easily do the same, would be a blatant case of personal preference to benefit one's own area.

No, that's not what I said.

Someone else believed that SB members had a bias & were going to favor certain areas - I disputed that.

I said that if people weren't happy with the SB, they should vote them out.

I defended the SB, saying that I think they're doing their best, given the circumstances, but I never said, nor would I say, that it's OK for the SB to use their "own personal situation, at the cost of what's best for the district".

[EagleDad]

Yeah, I can't see the dash doing any of this for personal gain - let's face it he's a short-timer in our community and probably on to Florida on the big 2nd retirement we'll hand him in 30 months. 50 or a hundred grand (for home value increase) pales on comparison to the Million he'll rake in working here for 3 years, plus say 5 Million more in retirement benefits. (if that doesn't make you want more out of our administration, I don't know what will)

As far as real-estate values goes, in this market, he whose falls the least, wins. It's not about gains, it's about not watching your home wash out from under you like a sandcastle in the surf. I imagine the dash has already taken a terrible beating on his home, purchased this summer.

[confused]

d204 mom wrote: "To answer your earlier post, no, I don't think my biases are better or worse than yours or Metzger's or Daeschner's. But earlier you said that trying to come up with an objective way to rank the sites was not productive.

So therefore I guess we are stuck with the school board and admin's biases. Even if I form my own opinion, if there is no objectivity possible on the site selection, then it doesn't matter. "

and WP responded
"That's pretty much true of the decisions made by any elected official. "

Since I don't know how to quote, this is the best I can do - I'm sorry if I misrepresented you, I just took this last comment to mean that you agreed with d204mom's last comment that "if there is no objectivity possible on the site selection, then it doesn't matter."

I think there should definitely be objectivity possible with the SB - that should be what they strive for, but unfortunately, we clearly don't always get that - as is the case with JC.

[EagleDad]

confused, here is some help on quoting (it's a video you can watch):
help.proboards.com/memberguide/index.html

Pick the Quote/Modify/Delete link on the left. In general, on all pages there is a Help link on the very top of the page (top menu, it can be hard to find).

Hope this helps!