CFO questions for tonight?

[momto4]

blankcheck said:

I think you are making generalizations here. You act as if we vote no we are against the kids - very typical comment that is not true. I have supported this district for many years and will continue to do so. However, this plan does not work for me. After a year, this is the best the district can come back to us with. Sorry, I just don't agree. Let's agree that we don't agree.

However, IMO the kids are the ones who will suffer most of the referendum doesn't pass, regardless of your reasons for voting no.

[momof3]

Dear Eola Corridor Branch of CFO:
If you help us sink the referendum, we will drop you like you're hot and immediately start campaigning to be redistricted to 203. If we are successful, good bye and good luck with picking up the pieces of your broken school district.
XOXO,
Naperville Branch of CFO

[forthekids]

blankcheck said:

No, there were many reasons people voted no last year - many of the same reasons exist this year, for example: tax implications, land site, actual need (remember, they sold on the freshman center as the end all solution), pending 2009 referendum etc. You have heard it all before. My no vote is not a "doesn't work for me vote." rather a vote asking for accountability and a more creative approach to solving these issues which will not cost the tax payers over 124 million dollars. Regarding the boundaries - well, I think that whole process was a joke There is absolutly nothing holding the current board (or a future board) to these boundary decisions. We are not voting on boundaries.

Tell that to Tall Grass and Brookdale -- oh, that's right -- you already have. That's why the CFO has targeted those two areas and Gombert. Interestingly, my neighborhood didn't get any of those little propaganda-style leaflets on mailboxes. The "creative" approach from the CFO has proven to be nothing more than posturing -- trying to just throw "solutions" out there that have, time and again been proven not to be the solution, but the CFO supporters just keep saying the same thing over and over even though those things have been proven to be either inaccurate (enrollment numbers), or not feasible (turning Peterson into a middle school, moving 6th graders to ES, etc.)

[momthreekids]

I have to say the boundary process caused a lot of distrust in the board, thus causing the no votes. It is the distrust.

It really bothers me to see the statement that no voters are cheap. That is an unfair assumption and really bothers me.

Also I have seen a lot of posts on this board asking the question that if the boundaries had gone your way would you still vote no. Well, how about the yes people who are not effected by the boundaries. What if you were the one to move. It is so easy to judge others when you are not in their shoes and I will repeat this is not a boundary issue for me at all. There are a lot of people that feel that they are entitled to something. I don't like their attitude either, but we do live in Naperville and there is a lot of that around here.

[forthekids]

momthreekids said:

I have to say the boundary process caused a lot of distrust in the board, thus causing the no votes. It is the distrust.

It really bothers me to see the statement that no voters are cheap. That is an unfair assumption and really bothers me.

Also I have seen a lot of posts on this board asking the question that if the boundaries had gone your way would you still vote no. Well, how about the yes people who are not effected by the boundaries. What if you were the one to move. It is so easy to judge others when you are not in their shoes and I will repeat this is not a boundary issue for me at all. There are a lot of people that feel that they are entitled to something. I don't like their attitude either, but we do live in Naperville and there is a lot of that around here.

Now that is really a generalization that I get tired of hearing. I have lived here for years, voted YES for every referendum regardless of how it affected my children (as do many of the people I know). The only thing I feel entitled to is a good education for my children. That I feel I have gotten and am happy to support that same educational experience for current and future children in this district. One of my favorite battlecry's that was consistently sounded whenever past referendum came up for new ES was "why should I pay my hard-earned money for kids who don't even live here, yet?" The answer is because we all have a responsibility to educate the children of our community present and future. After all, it is to the benefit of society that all children get a solid education. Of course no one likes change and no one likes it when it affects their children but when you live in a growing community, change is inevitable. Why do you say the boundary decision caused distrust? Someone has to be moved to the new school and some of those people weren't going to be happy about it. Doesn't change the fact that we need the third high school.

[momto4]

momthreekids said:

I have to say the boundary process caused a lot of distrust in the board, thus causing the no votes. It is the distrust.

It really bothers me to see the statement that no voters are cheap. That is an unfair assumption and really bothers me.

Also I have seen a lot of posts on this board asking the question that if the boundaries had gone your way would you still vote no. Well, how about the yes people who are not effected by the boundaries. What if you were the one to move. It is so easy to judge others when you are not in their shoes and I will repeat this is not a boundary issue for me at all. There are a lot of people that feel that they are entitled to something. I don't like their attitude either, but we do live in Naperville and there is a lot of that around here.

Trust or distrust the board, the numbers seem to speak for themselves. Since there is no tax increase for this referendum I don't think of the no voters as being cheap.

I am a yes person whose neighborhood will go to the same HS regardless of whether the referendum passes. When one of the options would have moved us to a different school, I was upset about this. Yet I realized that the new school is much-needed for the district and if this involved us moving to a new school, then so be it. I cannot understand the viewpoint of knowing a new school is needed and then voting it down due to being unhappy with the boundary decision.

[rew]

MTK, I am not saying anyone is cheap....but a NO vote says give me second or third best choice, at a lower price. Perhaps we could call them "price conscious".

My point is a NO voter cannot argue "I am voting NO because a third HS is bad for the kids"

[rew]

MTK, Let me put it another way. If as a voter, you say...I want a different site, I want different boundaries, than you bring up another ref next yr that has the southern site and now Patterson and Clow and SB etc have to move and so they Vote NO and it fails, and then you pick a northern site and TG, WE Wheatland and Welch gets moved to WV and then they vote NO....where does it leave us??

[momthreekids]

Rew, I do believe you wrote that one reason the no voters are voting no is because they don't want to pay.

Also I wrote in my post that this not a boundary issue for me and as for trust just look at JC and her orange shirt. I am back on the fence with my vote and I am not angry with anyone and their opinions, but I do get upset when either side calls the other names. It is totally uncalled for. This is a very passionate issue. I do not feel the SB has all their ducks in a row. Starting with the condemnation. Taxes will be higher they are just spreading out the debt and remember there will be another ref 2009.

[momof3]

Why is the TG204 yahoo group listed under Schools & Education>Issues>Anti-Education?

With such groups as 'teacherssuck' and 'ihateschool' as company?

[doctorwho]

gumby said:

I have a feeling it is more of pot stirring rather than a lack of reading. Plant the seed and hope that people will not accept the answer . . . I am growing increasingly wary of CFO's tactics.

It is ALL they have

[rew]

Just a note to MTK....I really didn't mean to offend anyone. If I offended you in any way I apologize

[gatormom]

MTK
I am from Gombert. Trust me, the new HS is not the best place for Gombert. We will make it work. I was asked by a parent wearing an orange T-shirt, are you for option 6? When I replied that it was awful for Gombert, her response was "yeah, we thought of poor Gombert." SHe then told me "Oh well, it makes everyone else happy, so will you support us anyway. " So s***w Gombert, as long as we get what we want. I still sympathize with BD because I know that what was said to me was only one person and not all of BD.

I trust the board because they were told, never make the boundary decision until after the referendum passes. They listened to us, we wanted it and we got it, warts and all.

I am sorry. I am for the referendum despite the boundary selection. I am for the referendum despite past mistakes previous SBs have made. Nobody can dispute the numbers. We need a new HS. I am for the referendum because it is the best option out there for every child in this district, today and tomorrow.

[admin]

Someone should ask them for a breakdown of their donors.

[Avenging Eagle]

momof3 said:

Why is the TG204 yahoo group listed under Schools & Education>Issues>Anti-Education?

With such groups as 'teacherssuck' and 'ihateschool' as company?

You forgot PIMPZ_UP_HOZ_DOWN, downwithbusdrivers, and studyingsuxpartyclub.

Actually, they are listed in the Issues category, not in that further subcategory.