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Post by driven on Mar 10, 2006 10:05:43 GMT -6
RE: Peterson I DID say IMO - so I'm an idiot. So the school board made mistakes in the past - I think we all agree on that. NOW what do we do with the kids. We are already overcrowded - do you REALLY think we don't need a third highschool? Whatever happened is over. NOW we have to fix it. There is no other solution other than a new building to house more students.....period. So you consider Peterson a past mistake. Hmmm... My memory is a little longer. When did we find out Peterson wasn't going to open this Fall? 2 weeks ago? A minute just when by while I was typing. Maybe I should just forget this post because it is in the past. Whoops! Another minute gone...
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Post by momthreekids on Mar 10, 2006 10:08:10 GMT -6
I wasn't at that boundary meeting where 5b was presented. That is an interesting point.
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Post by driven on Mar 10, 2006 10:08:59 GMT -6
That rumor came out just about a day after the last boundary meeting. Why was 5b ignored? I need to state this again, but I am not upset about the boundary changes, but it is the trust factor. I I am so tired of hearing that question. 5b was ignored, because it should have never been put on the table in the first place. M2 offered it up in the 11th hour in an attempt to placate a very angry group of constituents. Bruce Glawe (the original architect of Option 5) never supported it, so he never gave it serious consideration prior to or during the final boundary process. The question isn't why was 5b ignored, but why did the SB lead you to believe that it was a serious option to begin with? Many people put alot of effort into supporting their option (5a or 5b) thinking that real consideration was going to be given to 5b. I don't believe there ever was. That is what you should be angry about - the illusion that 5b was ever a real option. That is what everyone is angry about. I agree that this question is old. We were just explaining to a latecomer the whats what. That's why we are again addressing old questions.
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Post by momthreekids on Mar 10, 2006 10:15:50 GMT -6
I do know that this is a passionate issue, but I hate seeing and saw at the PTA meeting that when someone asked a question that was on the no side people were sneering at them. Everyone has the right to get their questioned answered. That is why they went to the meetings. I think we taught our children that there are no dumb questions.
Also I think this kind of behavior might of hindered others from asking their questions, since they socially don't want to look bad. Not a good thing if people are uncomfortable getting their questions asked.
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Post by sushi on Mar 10, 2006 10:28:21 GMT -6
RE: Peterson I DID say IMO - so I'm an idiot. So the school board made mistakes in the past - I think we all agree on that. NOW what do we do with the kids. We are already overcrowded - do you REALLY think we don't need a third highschool? Whatever happened is over. NOW we have to fix it. There is no other solution other than a new building to house more students.....period. So you consider Peterson a past mistake. Hmmm... My memory is a little longer. When did we find out Peterson wasn't going to open this Fall? 2 weeks ago? A minute just when by while I was typing. Maybe I should just forget this post because it is in the past. Whoops! Another minute gone... Sorry if my wording was confusing. I meant I am an idiot for bringing up my opinion on Peterson. Obviously it would open a can of worms to change anything, sorry I said it. The past mistakes I am referring to are listed in the post from "driven".
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Post by doctorwho on Mar 10, 2006 11:06:50 GMT -6
I do know that this is a passionate issue, but I hate seeing and saw at the PTA meeting that when someone asked a question that was on the no side people were sneering at them. Everyone has the right to get their questioned answered. That is why they went to the meetings. I think we taught our children that there are no dumb questions. Also I think this kind of behavior might of hindered others from asking their questions, since they socially don't want to look bad. Not a good thing if people are uncomfortable getting their questions asked. MOM3 - what PTA meeting are you talking about ? The reason I ask is that I agree with you that all questions should be heard with the same respect.......however I have read now at least 3 comments about the PTA at Fry being so tough on the people there, not pouring salt in the would but isn't this the same thing that a group did to those speaking at public forums and at SB meetings with hissing / jeering and eventually worse when anyone brought up something they didn't like ? This is a 2 way street there, passionate on both sides, let's not keep making this out to be a PTA issue --
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Post by soxfan on Mar 10, 2006 12:00:42 GMT -6
agreed on the Frybaby label. It was funny (and some here deserved it at first) but I'm afraid it's going to haunt us for a long time.
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Post by rew on Mar 10, 2006 12:03:14 GMT -6
Trouble is you really can't quiet down the extremes...you need to drown them out, with positive statements and support for all points of view and reasoned arguments, etc...
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Post by momthreekids on Mar 10, 2006 12:10:29 GMT -6
I think my point was taken the wrong way. People on both sides should be able to get their questions asked in a nonconfrontational way. It takes some a little longer to see the light then others and they need to get their questions answered. When they are attacked they might not ask their questions and thus be misinformed. I am on this site to get answers and most give great nonemotional answers.
There was a lot of sneering at the Scullen meeting. It made me very cautious on how I asked my questions.
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Post by soxfan on Mar 10, 2006 12:27:56 GMT -6
I think my point was taken the wrong way. People on both sides should be able to get their questions asked in a nonconfrontational way. It takes some a little longer to see the light then others and they need to get their questions answered. When they are attacked they might not ask their questions and thus be misinformed. I am on this site to get answers and most give great nonemotional answers. There was a lot of sneering at the Scullen meeting. It made me very cautious on how I asked my questions. momthreekids I couldn't attend the Scullen meeting but my husband did. He mentioned the sneering to me in his recap. I don't think it does any side any good to do that. People need to get their questions answered. There was someone at the FRY meeting as well that started trash talking one of the first people (the guy that moved from Oakhurst to TG) to ask a question. I thought he had a good question that needed to be addressed. I admit, I get tired of all the tax questions as that's not my major concern, but those people need to ask those questions as it's important to their decision making process. What I think isn't understood well enough by EITHER side is that if someone is able to have a questioned answered in detail, they may lose some of the hesitation they have and change their mind. When people trash talk and cut them off, the are unable to get the answers they need.
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Post by forthekids on Mar 10, 2006 12:31:35 GMT -6
RE: Peterson I DID say IMO - so I'm an idiot. So the school board made mistakes in the past - I think we all agree on that. NOW what do we do with the kids. We are already overcrowded - do you REALLY think we don't need a third highschool? Whatever happened is over. NOW we have to fix it. There is no other solution other than a new building to house more students.....period. So you consider Peterson a past mistake. Hmmm... My memory is a little longer. When did we find out Peterson wasn't going to open this Fall? 2 weeks ago? A minute just when by while I was typing. Maybe I should just forget this post because it is in the past. Whoops! Another minute gone... When you make a mistake do you dwell on it or move on? Because past and present SB members have made mistakes (and I personally don't agree that they should even be called that) does that mean the children should suffer? Would you make your children suffer if they made a mistake or do you try to help them learn from them and move forward? I choose the move forward option.
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