The TG204 yahoo group

[EagleDad]

Yes, that quote was taken directly from the TG204 board:
"I think this Topher person should be outed. Please contact the
media and disclose his name and address. "

I would post a link to it, but most can not access trhat site.

There were also threats of lawsuits and continue to be today.

There were also some emails exchanged that apparently had more information.

[gatormom]

I think the important thing here is that topher felt threatened. I know that I would be terrified if my name and address were made public, just for speaking my mind. I would worry about my children and their safety. It is just wrong.

[warriorpride]

soxfan said:

warriorpride said:

So, topher was threatened & blackmailed into leaving this board, and temporarily shutting it down.

You can see what transpired here: ipsd204.proboards76.com/index.cgi?board=ed&action=display&thread=1142627461

Some of this came from the TG204 yahoo group (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TG204/ ). Between the email he was sent & the TG group discussions, there were threats of releasing his name, address & phone number, as well as the threat of a lawsuit.

Anyone want to defend what was done to him?

Anyone think that he did anything wrong?

What do people think about the main poster(s) on TG204?

I read the TG board NEVER has anyone threatened to release his name. That is simply incorrect and should not be said.

I said that that between the TG board AND email sent to him, he was threatened with these things. See the thread that I linked to. It shows the email he got. I was going by ED's quotes from TG site, since I was kicked out long ago for stating my opinion. And, if you can't find what ED quoted, then it's possible that they deleted certain posts to cover up.

[momthreekids]

I believe people on the TG board were getting upset that people's personal info was put on this board. It was the attacks on the CFO and something to do with some girls identity being placed on the board.

Also on this board there is a lot of discussions on TG. I think TG residents are very sensitive to how we are perceived after the boundary meetings. We have been judge by the actions of a very small group in TG that attended that boundary meeting and the media portrayed us poorly. I always feel I have to defend this neighborhood.

The TG board had allowed others to join the board only to for those to attack us, thus they were removed.

[momthreekids]

And this is why new members are not being allowed onto the TG site.


As some of you remember, a very rude poster came here from the other
board a few days ago and attacked the Fry community.

Because of one Mr Harry ---- , I was forced into turning the
'Pre-approval' process on for new members to join this discussion board.

2 days ago I went through them, but for some reason, there are many
more new member requests coming through tonight.

I need your opinions and help in determining whether to set the
'pre-approval' off again, so we could have a more effective debate.

What are your thoughts?

Thank you.

[EagleDad]

There was no attacking by many/most the accounts removed on the TG204 boards. Anyone who expressed a pro-referendum view, or asked questions had their accounts cancelled immediately. It is a closed, and single-minded community.

As for the girl's identity, it was her name only. As soon as the former mod of this was notified of it, he removed it immediately. It was wrong, and it was corrected right away. It was not posted by Topher. You can not hold the moderators responsible for the posts that are made on the board, you can ask them to behave responsibly, and correct things that should not be there, which I believe Topher did.

[forthekids]

momthreekids said:

I believe people on the TG board were getting upset that people's personal info was put on this board. It was the attacks on the CFO and something to do with some girls identity being placed on the board.

Also on this board there is a lot of discussions on TG. I think TG residents are very sensitive to how we are perceived after the boundary meetings. We have been judge by the actions of a very small group in TG that attended that boundary meeting and the media portrayed us poorly. I always feel I have to defend this neighborhood.

The TG board had allowed others to join the board only to for those to attack us, thus they were removed.

I have to respectfully disagree with you. I do not think there has been much discussion of TG, especially lately. It is a shame that the TG community is getting painted with a broad brush. Logical people know that you can not blame an entire community for the actions of a few. I myself have driven through TG and seen many YES signs, so obviously not everyone in that community is against the referendum. I do feel that some have joined this board with the obvious intent to go on the attack and to rile people up; not for a free exchange of ideas and opinions. I myself have not even tried to join the TG board because from what I have heard it is really all about bashing and not much else. Forgive me if I am wrong, but that is the impression I have gotten prior to the "threats" made to Topher. As far as identity goes, if someone's name is published in a paper, then it is certainly easy to put that name through a search and come up with lots of information. It is the age we live in. If a name was posted on this board (I myself never saw it), I am sure it was not done with malicious intent but only to make a point about the person's daughter not even being in the public school system. There really is no such thing as privacy in this day of the internet, and to act as if anyone on this board meant any harm to a teenager is ridiculous.

[wvhsparent]

momthreekids said:

I believe people on the TG board were getting upset that people's personal info was put on this board. It was the attacks on the CFO and something to do with some girls identity being placed on the board.

Also on this board there is a lot of discussions on TG. I think TG residents are very sensitive to how we are perceived after the boundary meetings. We have been judge by the actions of a very small group in TG that attended that boundary meeting and the media portrayed us poorly. I always feel I have to defend this neighborhood.

The TG board had allowed others to join the board only to for those to attack us, thus they were removed.

I NEVER attacked anyone on that group...just asked a few questions....is that considered an attack?

I also understand what you say about a small group of people ruining things for a larger group.....sorry, but that's life...deal with it.
W.E. did so can TG...time to rise over the fray.

[title1parent]

I, for one, believe that we should rise above SOME of those posting on the TG board. If outsiders are unable to join/post, then let them spew their issues over there. Threats over a school referendum/3rd HS are absurd. Threats against SB members, message board moderators.....people have gone mad. Wednesday morning, the world will continue to exist, and we will have to deal with either 2 MEGA HS or 3 HS that will be able to provide quality education for all our students.

[fence]

The information encouraging all TG204 members to send topher's private information to the papers, and the threat from Mr. White which we all read about doing the same is not defensible. I posted someone's name on the board that was PUBLIC INFORMATION found on Google only to demonstrate that the person in question sent their kid to private school rather than 204. In hindsight, I should have left the minor name off the board, and Topher took it down but to make any accusation that my post was some malicious intent to release a kid's identity is completely ludicrous and borderline insane. It was in a freaking Google search. Whatever people.

If the people of TG are trying to be portrayed in a positive light, this is not the way to do it. I suggest that TG204 start thinking for themselves and not allow themselves to get caught up as a puppet for another organization.

I find what happened yesterday to be completely obnoxious and there's no way anyone could defend what was done by the TG204 group whoever they happen to be. There were people on that board that probably don't agree with what was done, but doubt any of them spoke up.

Very few people in 204 are interested in attacking TG, especially not anyone here on this board. I couldn't care less if all of TG votes no. Do whatever you want, vote however you feel is right, just spare us all the drama and the idle threats. Sorry, but by mere association and the use of TG204 as a group name, all of this unfortunately makes TG in general look pathetic in my eyes.

[sushi]

No offense to momthreekids, but there are a FEW TG posters from this board and the old board who were VERY offensive in their tone, personally attacking and name calling anyone who had a valid point (obviously because a nerve was struck). Of course I know there are yes voters in TG; I have friends and relatives there. But the people I know and have talked to who are voting no, citing various BS reasons, are really voting no because of the boundaries. I guarantee you, we would NOT be having this discussion if TG was staying at NVHS. PERIOD!

[Avenging Eagle]

momthreekids said:

I believe people on the TG board were getting upset that people's personal info was put on this board. It was the attacks on the CFO and something to do with some girls identity being placed on the board.

Also on this board there is a lot of discussions on TG. I think TG residents are very sensitive to how we are perceived after the boundary meetings. We have been judge by the actions of a very small group in TG that attended that boundary meeting and the media portrayed us poorly. I always feel I have to defend this neighborhood.

The TG board had allowed others to join the board only to for those to attack us, thus they were removed.

momthreekids,
Why are you trying to defend the actions of a few bad apples in your neighborhood. It only makes it look like there really is more to it than just a few cowards and troublemakers behind it.

My TG204 id was deleted even though I never posted a thing.

If you want to know how you can help to redeem the honour of TG, why not try the following strategy:
1. Disassociate yourself from the troublemakers.
2. Be vigilant and point out trouble coming from those in your own community to help to stomp it out.
3. Promote those in TG that have mainstream views to be more vocal so that the rest of us can be convinced that TG is not so bad after all.

[warriorpride]

momthreekids said:

I believe people on the TG board were getting upset that people's personal info was put on this board. It was the attacks on the CFO and something to do with some girls identity being placed on the board.

Also on this board there is a lot of discussions on TG. I think TG residents are very sensitive to how we are perceived after the boundary meetings. We have been judge by the actions of a very small group in TG that attended that boundary meeting and the media portrayed us poorly. I always feel I have to defend this neighborhood.

The TG board had allowed others to join the board only to for those to attack us, thus they were removed.

1) The discussion of TG is very likely being brought up by TG people.

2) "I think TG residents are very sensitive to how we are perceived after the boundary meetings" - And well they should be. If it was 15-20 people that made fools of themselves in the name of TG, so be it. They're the ones that caused an image problem. But, I think we understand that this wasn't a reprsentation of ALL of the TG residents.

3) I think we've covered the fact many times on this board that nobody is generalizing about TG, or any other subdivision or ES. But, to clarify again: the TG204 board only represents certain people's extreme viewpoints and conspiracy theories. It is not a general representation of the opinions or attitudes of TG, nor is it, based on what I've heard, even a majority view of TG. And for all we know, all of the "contributors" on that board may not even live in TG - just vote-NOers stirring the pot.

[fence]

warriorpride said:

momthreekids said:

I believe people on the TG board were getting upset that people's personal info was put on this board. It was the attacks on the CFO and something to do with some girls identity being placed on the board.

Also on this board there is a lot of discussions on TG. I think TG residents are very sensitive to how we are perceived after the boundary meetings. We have been judge by the actions of a very small group in TG that attended that boundary meeting and the media portrayed us poorly. I always feel I have to defend this neighborhood.

The TG board had allowed others to join the board only to for those to attack us, thus they were removed.

1) The discussion of TG is very likely being brought up by TG people.

2) "I think TG residents are very sensitive to how we are perceived after the boundary meetings" - And well they should be. If it was 15-20 people that made fools of themselves in the name of TG, so be it. They're the ones that caused an image problem. But, I think we understand that this wasn't a reprsentation of ALL of the TG residents.

3) I think we've covered the fact many times on this board that nobody is generalizing about TG, or any other subdivision or ES. But, to clarify again: the TG204 board only represents certain people's extreme viewpoints and conspiracy theories. It is not a general representation of the opinions or attitudes of TG, nor is it, based on what I've heard, even a majority view of TG. And for all we know, all of the "contributors" on that board may not even live in TG - just vote-NOers stirring the pot.

Absolutely. We know the TG204 group is only a handful and does not represent the entire community. Unfortunately the response to that group by other TG residents might be better served to not defend what happened yesterday as some normal reaction a person's name being put on the board (not malicious, public information, removed) and that CFO was being attacked (actually more like uncovered with facts/documents).

I'd defend my neighbors too until a group of them turned into wackjobs using my neighborhood's name as a platform. Then I would make sure people knew that I was not associated with that group, and make sure the remainder of the neighborhood created distance.

[notconvinced]

I agree that the actions of TG204 and others regarding this board and Topher in particular were way out of line. There is no defense of those actions.

However, I do hope that we are going to continue to avoid posting any personal information on this board. I have been very uncomfortable with the few instances when personal information was being discussed. It is enough to say 'This person supports private school'. Honestly, I don't even think it's relevant whether someone has a student at private school. They are still taxpayers and citizens of the district and could have sent their kids to that school for many reasons. To assume that someone chose a school like Benet and then could have no interest in supporting public educaction is not a valid assumption IMHO. I'm sure there are people with kids at private school who also want to see a great public school district.

But that one incident was not the only example of personal information being discussed here. We can get our viewpoints out without using that. I'm glad we're getting down to the wire here. Things are getting out of control.