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Post by Arch on Feb 17, 2008 20:46:31 GMT -6
The pipelines are under a right of way by the tracks, not on the property the school would be built on. This is done by design so nothing is ever built over the top of them. That being said, there is no reason for heavy equipment used in the building of the school to be near the right of way. 3 pipelines are out by the tracks. 2 Hazardous Liquids and 1 gas. There are also 3 gas pipelines right through the middle of the fields, located ON the property, near the dead center running North and South. M2 has said in an email exchange with me that they are indeed active. "As for the pipelines, yes we're aware of them. I thought everyone was;and I recall that they run through most of the continent also. I know
of no plans for them to be abandoned. I also know that we cannot and
will not be building over them. Athletic fields are not a problem, and
we will be siting some of those there."
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Post by thebeefeater on Feb 17, 2008 20:59:26 GMT -6
I agree with WVHSparent. Everyone needs to figure out what is the biggest priority and come to support them. I know if I was the school board, they have to realize this proposal is not the best. And if people that were not affected by the boundary change came out and supported Watts/Owen/Gombert/Petersen etc. than that would really make me stop and think. If we do this logically and rationally, then maybe the board will table things on Tuesday to examine. If there are altruistic people out there trying to help others, then hey, I have faith in this district. But if people just whine about their situation, they are just going to be labeled as whiners by everyone there. Find a solution. Fry, what IS your solution to becoming walkers? I see the middle school split thing doesn't seem to phase you anymore??? Then find out a REASONABLE ES that you can pull away to make you a walker. Oh, golly, there isn't one. But maybe your middle school split could be managed. Pick a battle that you can win and find a solution that the board will listen to and others will stand behind you on. I'm thinking the folks in WE would support you in the MS split but not be so supportive of you bailing on them to walk to NV. And someone find a solution for poor Petersen and the Watts/Owen mess, as I just can't. Why do you have sympathy for the commutes of Watts/Owen, but not for Fry? Why the double standard? And if the bridge makes Fry walkers - why shouldn't they walk? Why the double standard? I'll tell you why Watts commute will be 5.7 miles Owen's commute will be more than 7 miles Fry you ask? 3.8 miles and less than 15 minutes. See link tinyurl.com/3dyyw9It just plain makes sense for Fry to be the ES to move. The closest walker at Fry to NV is 1+ miles from the school. At Welch the nearest walker is a 100 yards. I have no agenda here, these are just the facts. |
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Post by Arch on Feb 17, 2008 21:05:50 GMT -6
Why do you have sympathy for the commutes of Watts/Owen, but not for Fry? Why the double standard? And if the bridge makes Fry walkers - why shouldn't they walk? Why the double standard? I'll tell you why Watts commute will be 5.7 miles Owen's commute will be more than 7 miles Fry you ask? 3.8 miles and less than 15 minutes. See link tinyurl.com/3dyyw9It just plain makes sense for Fry to be the ES to move. The closest walker at Fry to NV is 1+ miles from the school. At Welch the nearest walker is a 100 yards. I have no agenda here, these are just the facts. SB could move from NV too since it has no walkers. Or does it? 5.9 miles to send them to WV 5.9 mi – about 15 mins 1. Head north on Gleneagles Dr toward 87th St 0.1 mi 2. Turn left at 87th St 1.6 mi 4 mins 3. Turn right at Book Rd 0.5 mi 1 min 4. Turn left at 83rd St 2.8 mi 6 mins 5. Turn right at Middlebury Dr 0.2 mi 1 min 6. Turn left at Long Grove Dr 0.6 mi 2 mins 7. Turn right at S Eola Rd 0.1 mi There you go Fry.. send SB to WV.. it's not the farthest school and there are no walkers. |
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Post by rj on Feb 17, 2008 21:09:16 GMT -6
I have worked on jobs with underground pipelines and utilities where the size of equipment used is dictated by the owner of said structures as not to create excessive compaction. Shouldn't be an issue.
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Post by Arch on Feb 17, 2008 21:10:48 GMT -6
I have worked on jobs with underground pipelines and utilities where the size of equipment used is dictated by the owner of said structures as not to create excessive compaction. Shouldn't be an issue. That's a lovely gamble "shouldn't" Will your kids be there? How far is your commute? |
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Post by sleeplessinnpvl on Feb 17, 2008 21:13:44 GMT -6
SB could move from NV too since it has no walkers. Or does it? Yes, SB is bussed to NV. They could be moved. But look at the HS map boundaries. If Owen remains yellow and Clow and everyone else is blue, then SB is a big green island with the same awful 35-minute-which-we-all-know-is-45-minute commute as Owen. That's just adding another disaster to the boundary plan. The idea is to minimize distance. Which is why they need to seriously consider doing something about Owen east and others. |
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Post by Arch on Feb 17, 2008 21:15:56 GMT -6
SB could move from NV too since it has no walkers. Or does it? Yes, SB is bussed to NV. They could be moved. But look at the HS map boundaries. If Owen remains yellow and Clow and everyone else is blue, then SB is a big green island with the same awful 35-minute-which-we-all-know-is-45-minute commute as Owen. That's just adding another disaster to the boundary plan. The idea is to minimize distance. Which is why they need to seriously consider doing something about Owen east and others. I modified my post above. Google says it's 15 minutes with the route I posted. Shouldn't be a problem... It's for the district...  |
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Post by slp on Feb 17, 2008 21:19:38 GMT -6
I'll tell you why Watts commute will be 5.7 miles Owen's commute will be more than 7 miles Fry you ask? 3.8 miles and less than 15 minutes. See link tinyurl.com/3dyyw9It just plain makes sense for Fry to be the ES to move. The closest walker at Fry to NV is 1+ miles from the school. At Welch the nearest walker is a 100 yards. I have no agenda here, these are just the facts. SB could move from NV too since it has no walkers. Or does it? 5.9 miles to send them to WV 5.9 mi – about 15 mins 1. Head north on Gleneagles Dr toward 87th St 0.1 mi 2. Turn left at 87th St 1.6 mi 4 mins 3. Turn right at Book Rd 0.5 mi 1 min 4. Turn left at 83rd St 2.8 mi 6 mins 5. Turn right at Middlebury Dr 0.2 mi 1 min 6. Turn left at Long Grove Dr 0.6 mi 2 mins 7. Turn right at S Eola Rd 0.1 mi There you go Fry.. send SB to WV.. it's not the farthest school and there are no walkers. And, unlike Welch, you would not be removing a Title 1 (the only) from NVHS. |
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Post by 204family on Feb 17, 2008 21:20:25 GMT -6
Why do you have sympathy for the commutes of Watts/Owen, but not for Fry? Why the double standard? And if the bridge makes Fry walkers - why shouldn't they walk? Why the double standard? I'll tell you why Watts commute will be 5.7 miles Owen's commute will be more than 7 miles Fry you ask? 3.8 miles and less than 15 minutes. See link tinyurl.com/3dyyw9It just plain makes sense for Fry to be the ES to move. The closest walker at Fry to NV is 1+ miles from the school. At Welch the nearest walker is a 100 yards. I have no agenda here, these are just the facts. Your facts are wrong. The busses will never take normantown. |
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Post by sleeplessinnpvl on Feb 17, 2008 21:21:06 GMT -6
Yes, SB is bussed to NV. They could be moved. But look at the HS map boundaries. If Owen remains yellow and Clow and everyone else is blue, then SB is a big green island with the same awful 35-minute-which-we-all-know-is-45-minute commute as Owen. That's just adding another disaster to the boundary plan. The idea is to minimize distance. Which is why they need to seriously consider doing something about Owen east and others. I modified my post above. Google says it's 15 minutes with the route I posted. Shouldn't be a problem... It's for the district... Maybe they can get some of those cool busses that you Watts folks are getting.... |
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Post by WeBe204 on Feb 17, 2008 21:25:03 GMT -6
SB could move from NV too since it has no walkers. Or does it? 5.9 miles to send them to WV 5.9 mi – about 15 mins 1. Head north on Gleneagles Dr toward 87th St 0.1 mi 2. Turn left at 87th St 1.6 mi 4 mins 3. Turn right at Book Rd 0.5 mi 1 min 4. Turn left at 83rd St 2.8 mi 6 mins 5. Turn right at Middlebury Dr 0.2 mi 1 min 6. Turn left at Long Grove Dr 0.6 mi 2 mins 7. Turn right at S Eola Rd 0.1 mi There you go Fry.. send SB to WV.. it's not the farthest school and there are no walkers. And, unlike Welch, you would not be removing a Title 1 (the only) from NVHS. But is it splittable.. Split out the Title 1 and leave it at NVHS. Splits seem to be fair game.  |
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Post by rj on Feb 17, 2008 21:25:55 GMT -6
Arch, I know you like to take the fear mongering route to get your way, but let me clarify, if the protocol for working on top of a pipeline is followed, which I have no doubt it will, there won't be a problem. I see no reason for the owner of the pipeline, nor the contractor to allow shortcuts to be taken, as they have a vested interest in protecting their ASSets, as they would be financially responsible for any damage from the building of said fields, now and in the future.
I would not have a problem sending my kids there safety wise. As far as the commute, that I would have an issue with, but unlike you, I woulld stick with that, not drag in what if's and all the fear mongering to try and get my way.
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Post by WeBe204 on Feb 17, 2008 21:29:06 GMT -6
I have a magic 8 ball I started using  |
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Post by slp on Feb 17, 2008 21:29:32 GMT -6
And, unlike Welch, you would not be removing a Title 1 (the only) from NVHS. But is it splittable.. Split out the Title 1 and leave it at NVHS. Splits seem to be fair game. Good point. they sure split the *($# out of you! |
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Post by rj on Feb 17, 2008 21:29:42 GMT -6
Why wouldn't they take Normantown? I see buses everyday using it.
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