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Post by wvhsparent on Feb 16, 2008 13:52:46 GMT -6
Wouldn't that be great? If we could re- vote? Now there's an idea. And I guarantee you that if you presented Owen/Watts/Cowlishaw/ Fry/Gombert/ White Eagle with the option to be an island, split their middle school AND STAY at their current HS assignment, you'd have closer to 100% YES votes. I'm all for another VOTE. I want to make sure I got this straight. You want a re-vote for the 3rd HS? AME is the site....you would now vote no 3rd HS Period.
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Post by slp on Feb 16, 2008 13:57:17 GMT -6
I'm all for another VOTE. I want to make sure I got this straight. You want a re-vote for the 3rd HS? AME is the site....you would now vote no 3rd HS Period. Honestly, I don't know. I just know that the last straw for me is our middle school situation and I'm not happy.
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Post by magneto on Feb 16, 2008 14:04:45 GMT -6
I want to make sure I got this straight. You want a re-vote for the 3rd HS? AME is the site....you would now vote no 3rd HS Period. Honestly, I don't know. I just know that the last straw for me is our middle school situation and I'm not happy. Come-on - Of course you know. You just won't admit it publicly here. I voted yes for the school, even when it was going to be at BB, even though I did not care for the site. I knew we needed the 3rd HS.
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Post by Arch on Feb 16, 2008 14:28:53 GMT -6
We still need a 3rd HS, but we don't need it at MWGEN due to hazards. Put it in any other safe location and we're good to go.
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Post by d204mom on Feb 16, 2008 15:38:01 GMT -6
Did anyone check with the City? The Park District will not maintain the actual bridge. IMO, the SB still has the ultimate say on this if the City won't put it Priority One, right? Based on how I read the memo, the City won't be waking up at 5 am to shovel the bridge. Therefore, the district has not notified the Park District that it has to be a priority one route because it's the bridge, not the walkway that is the issue. Am I missing something? The way I read this, the park district WILL maintain the actual bridge and the walkway - it sounds like all they need is for the School District to request the bridge be priority one. From what this official says, it appears the SD has never done that, but the memo they released implied that they had. I read that communication to mean that if either the district or residents asked, the PD would be happy to put the bridge on priority 1 snowplowing or whatever the technical term is. So the TG folks should just get together and ask the PD. A petition should get a zillion signatures in no time.
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Post by slp on Feb 16, 2008 15:57:09 GMT -6
Honestly, I don't know. I just know that the last straw for me is our middle school situation and I'm not happy. Come-on - Of course you know. You just won't admit it publicly here. I voted yes for the school, even when it was going to be at BB, even though I did not care for the site. I knew we needed the 3rd HS. My biggest beef right now is asking my child to switch schools in 8th grade. If that issue can be grandfathered most of my frustrations will go away. I don't think that is asking too much considering the district has grandfathered 5th graders and junior and seniors from moves.
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Post by macy on Feb 16, 2008 18:32:41 GMT -6
The way I read this, the park district WILL maintain the actual bridge and the walkway - it sounds like all they need is for the School District to request the bridge be priority one. From what this official says, it appears the SD has never done that, but the memo they released implied that they had. I read that communication to mean that if either the district or residents asked, the PD would be happy to put the bridge on priority 1 snowplowing or whatever the technical term is. So the TG folks should just get together and ask the PD. A petition should get a zillion signatures in no time. I was forwarded a copy of that email. It is legitimate. It clearly states the PD will maintain the bridge if asked.
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Post by wvhsparent on Feb 16, 2008 18:54:21 GMT -6
The Park District could make it heated, so no snow stuck to it ever...the SD could still send your kids to WVHS, and there's not much you could do about it.
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Post by concerned on Feb 16, 2008 19:18:12 GMT -6
The more I read and the more I think about it, this is just the WRONG SITE!!!!!!!!
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Post by teachermom on Feb 16, 2008 19:28:58 GMT -6
My biggest concern is that parents are accepting the notion that children should be bused to equalize the performance at district schools. The administration should be spending our money on recovery and enrichment programs at lower performing schools rather than attempting to "dilute" poor scores by manufacturing the student pool. This paradigm is a disservice to ALL students.
Do you see other high performing school districts busing students? Hinsdale Central doesn't bus students from within the Hinsdale South boundaries to improve the performance at South. Check out the Central PSAE scores; they are some of the best in the state. (A standardized test is just a snap shot, but unfortunately, this snap shot is used by colleges and universities across the country to sort our kids. Say all you want about ISAT scores; they simply aren't ACT scores, and there is not a direct correlation between achievement on the two.)
The horrifying dirty little secret here is that the district has parents so occupied with the shell game of which school their children would attend and how long it would take to get there - that no one notices how other local high schools out perform both Nequa and Waubonsie. Both Naperville Central and Naperville North do - in addition to Hinsdale Central and countless others.
If you really want a reality check, take a look at the PSAE scores for New Trier.
Why would anyone want to move to Naperville and pay hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars - for public schools that do not perform?
And the sad truth is - this botched boundary plan will only diminish students' achievement.
Ultimately, I am disappointed that my 8th grader will attend Nequa for one year and then be bused to Waubonsie. I am incensed that she will spend more time on the bus than any one class she will take in any given week. I am infuriated by the misinformation, the disinformation, and the lies . . .
But I am irate that my child is going to be sent away from her neighborhood school - the one where we have listened from our back porch to the shouts of victories in the end zone, the one where she has gone for art shows and choral concerts, the one . . . so that "the district" can LOOK BETTER.
All of this chaos is being caused by the board's second goal - and no one is calling them on it.
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Post by wvhsparent on Feb 16, 2008 19:40:27 GMT -6
The more I read and the more I think about it, this is just the WRONG SITE!!!!!!!! For you maybe....My area is quite happy with it thank you, and we think it's the right site.
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Post by wvhsparent on Feb 16, 2008 19:45:54 GMT -6
My biggest concern is that parents are accepting the notion that children should be bused to equalize the performance at district schools. The administration should be spending our money on recovery and enrichment programs at lower performing schools rather than attempting to "dilute" poor scores by manufacturing the student pool. This paradigm is a disservice to ALL students. Do you see other high performing school districts busing students? Hinsdale Central doesn't bus students from within the Hinsdale South boundaries to improve the performance at South. Check out the Central PSAE scores; they are some of the best in the state. (A standardized test is just a snap shot, but unfortunately, this snap shot is used by colleges and universities across the country to sort our kids. Say all you want about ISAT scores; they simply aren't ACT scores, and there is not a direct correlation between achievement on the two.) The horrifying dirty little secret here is that the district has parents so occupied with the shell game of which school their children would attend and how long it would take to get there - that no one notices how other local high schools out perform both Nequa and Waubonsie. Both Naperville Central and Naperville North do - in addition to Hinsdale Central and countless others. If you really want a reality check, take a look at the PSAE scores for New Trier. Why would anyone want to move to Naperville and pay hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars - for public schools that do not perform? And the sad truth is - this botched boundary plan will only diminish students' achievement. Ultimately, I am disappointed that my 8th grader will attend Nequa for one year and then be bused to Waubonsie. I am incensed that she will spend more time on the bus than any one class she will take in any given week. I am infuriated by the misinformation, the disinformation, and the lies . . . But I am irate that my child is going to be sent away from her neighborhood school - the one where we have listened from our back porch to the shouts of victories in the end zone, the one where she has gone for art shows and choral concerts, the one . . . so that "the district" can LOOK BETTER. All of this chaos is being caused by the board's second goal - and no one is calling them on it. I respectfully disagree with your notion that our HS's do not "perform" They perform quite well.....a couple of points lower than the schools you stated, true, but in the high 80's/low 90's is great performance, IMHO.
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Post by Arch on Feb 16, 2008 19:48:38 GMT -6
The more I read and the more I think about it, this is just the WRONG SITE!!!!!!!! For you maybe....My area is quite happy with it thank you, and we think it's the right site. If there was a recorded accident w/ any of those transit lines, would it still be the 'right site'?
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Post by 204parent on Feb 16, 2008 19:52:39 GMT -6
The more I read and the more I think about it, this is just the WRONG SITE!!!!!!!! For you maybe....My area is quite happy with it thank you, and we think it's the right site. Please remind us how many HS students live in your neighborhood? It can't be too many.
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Post by wvhsparent on Feb 16, 2008 19:53:04 GMT -6
For you maybe....My area is quite happy with it thank you, and we think it's the right site. If there was a recorded accident w/ any of those transit lines, would it still be the 'right site'? Has there been one? No. So that is a spurious question.
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