Disappointment - Cont'd Part3

[casey]

I will definitely apologize if my information is incorrect. I am sorry for posting erroneous information. I was told by someone that he moved from Brookdale to Breckenridge. I found it interesting, went home typed "whitepages.com" came up with 2 listings for Curt Bradshaw - his current one in Brookdale and then a Curtis Jr. Bradshaw, (listed age 35-39) with a listing at Providence Court. I apologize to Curt Bradshaw as well as Curtis Jr. Bradshaw. Guess they're not one of the same? I thought I had my facts correct based on what I found so if they're wrong then I truly am sorry. I made the ASSumption that they were the same person -my bad.

Also, for the record, just because I made an error why is that reflective on the whole TG community? Huh?

[macy]

fence said:

Yes, call me crazy but I believe things like this might trump an investigation into whether the TG community is in fact the new axis of evil.

slp said:

Great point. We need a full understanding of this.

Fence...

LOL on the axis of evil comment. Too funny!

I wondered why the district did not provide the enrollment numbers for 09-10 and 10-11 for the three schools.

I submitted a very detailed proposal to them using actual kids in the system today (k-12) and provided numbers for WVHS, NVHS with the grandfathered jrs and srs.

I guess they thought the bridge information was more important.

[WeBe204]

fence said:

Yes, call me crazy but I believe things like this might trump an investigation into whether the TG community is in fact the new axis of evil.

slp said:

Great point. We need a full understanding of this.

Completely agreed. Didn't Mr. Vickers bring this up at the land purchase meeting during his comments. I do not remember what the board/admin's response was

[doctorwho]

casey said:

I will definitely apologize if my information is incorrect. I am sorry for posting erroneous information. I was told by someone that he moved from Brookdale to Breckenridge. I found it interesting, went home typed "whitepages.com" came up with 2 listings for Curt Bradshaw - his current one in Brookdale and then a Curtis Jr. Bradshaw, (listed age 35-39) with a listing at Providence Court. I apologize to Curt Bradshaw as well as Curtis Jr. Bradshaw. Guess they're not one of the same? I thought I had my facts correct based on what I found so if they're wrong then I truly am sorry. I made the ASSumption that they were the same person -my bad.

Also, for the record, just because I made an error why is that reflective on the whole TG community? Huh?

Seems like an honest mistake to me, not like it was off the wall with no information -- and no one would require ( I don't believe) any SB member to report to any of us if they were going to move ( except maybe to outside the district )- seriously - name wise what are the odds?


personally I am glad it is false -- actually I wish Curt resided in WVHS district ( as he did before site change) because with his background I know his feelings for WVHS.... not enough of that to go around.

of course I wish I lived in Warrior land also- but that's another rant

[fence]

I think so but I don't remember either. Is there a reason they wouldn't wait until 2011 to close the gold campus? It seems like an unfair thing to do, even to an albatross.

brad204 said:

fence said:

Yes, call me crazy but I believe things like this might trump an investigation into whether the TG community is in fact the new axis of evil.

Completely agreed. Didn't Mr. Vickers bring this up at the land purchase meeting during his comments. I do not remember what the board/admin's response was

[kmjone]

IMO, when one is making a point that is designed to support their argument, they have an obligation to ensure the facts are correct. CB did not move, so Casey's point is moot. CB has shown the integrity to make decisions in the best interests of the SD as Macy points out. I'm defending CB here. Of course, it should not reflect on an entire community. I don't support that 1 iota. Unfortunately, it can because people do and will generalize. That is why you need to be careful when making definite statements as fact.

[doctorwho]

fence said:

Yes, call me crazy but I believe things like this might trump an investigation into whether the TG community is in fact the new axis of evil.

slp said:

Great point. We need a full understanding of this.

Had a daughter there when NV opened- it takes 2 years for crowding to ease completely -- because new school only has frosh-soph. Here's a thought - why not move up thru juniors and then also have varsity sports and all programs @ MV and end crowding one year sooner at WV? One less issue with new school right ?

of course that would require a gym. stadiums, pool etc .- all the things that make the HS experience the same for everyone

[casey]

kmjone said:

IMO, when one is making a point that is designed to support their argument, they have an obligation to ensure the facts are correct. CB did not move, so Casey's point is moot. CB has shown the integrity to make decisions in the best interests of the SD as Macy points out. I'm defending CB here. Of course, it should not reflect on an entire community. I don't support that 1 iota. Unfortunately, it can because people do and will generalize. That is why you need to be careful when making definite statements as fact.

For the record, I did think that I had my facts correct. I pointed out the method that I used to verify that information. I considered my information to be correct based on what I found. I didn't just hear "something from someone" and then post it!

Can there honestly be two Curt Bradshaws within the same age group? Wow, I feel sorry for Curt, Jr. if he ever receives phone calls related to SB matters. Let's hope he's up to date on his stuff, too .

[confused]

doctorwho said:

fence said:

Yes, call me crazy but I believe things like this might trump an investigation into whether the TG community is in fact the new axis of evil.

Had a daughter there when NV opened- it takes 2 years for crowding to ease completely -- because new school only has frosh-soph. Here's a thought - why not move up thru juniors and then also have varsity sports and all programs @ MV and end crowding one year sooner at WV? One less issue with new school right ?

of course that would require a gym. stadiums, pool etc .- all the things that make the HS experience the same for everyone

Can they keep the gold campus open one more year to ease the transition and leave the MS's crowded for one year?

[kmjone]

OK, saw your apology. My main point was to defend CB, not generalize about any community. His name is not uncommon so I wouldn't be surprised if there were more in the area.

[fence]

Both solutions make sense. Logistically moving juniors would keep all the lower grade movements on on track, and would give MV a head start w/ sports. But keeping gold open longer would probably be more popular.

And there is the minor detail of needing a gym and athletic fields right off the bat.

I would like to see enrollment numbers for 2009-10 for WV. For sophmores, this is going to be incredibly painful - move out of your HS and then spend the rest of your HS career in the most overcrowded environment possible. We're building the new HS becuase we're overcrowded, but we're going to add 750 more kids to WV for 2 years and not blink an eye? That seems harsh and totally avoidable.

confused said:

doctorwho said:

Had a daughter there when NV opened- it takes 2 years for crowding to ease completely -- because new school only has frosh-soph. Here's a thought - why not move up thru juniors and then also have varsity sports and all programs @ MV and end crowding one year sooner at WV? One less issue with new school right ?

of course that would require a gym. stadiums, pool etc .- all the things that make the HS experience the same for everyone

Can they keep the gold campus open one more year to ease the transition and leave the MS's crowded for one year?

[doctorwho]

fence said:

Both solutions make sense. Logistically moving juniors would keep all the lower grade movements on on track, and would give MV a head start w/ sports. But keeping gold open longer would probably be more popular.

And there is the minor detail of needing a gym and athletic fields right off the bat.

I would like to see enrollment numbers for 2009-10 for WV. For sophmores, this is going to be incredibly painful - move out of your HS and then spend the rest of your HS career in the most overcrowded environment possible. We're building the new HS becuase we're overcrowded, but we're going to add 750 more kids to WV for 2 years and not blink an eye? That seems harsh and totally avoidable.

confused said:

Can they keep the gold campus open one more year to ease the transition and leave the MS's crowded for one year?

You mean those going to MV won't be getting the same HS experience as the others in 2009 ?

If you kept Gold open a year longer - would you do so at a lower enrollment than now though? You're not suggesting all freshman got here again and not to their assigned schools - which would only make still another class have to attend a temp HS and then their real HS...

[confused]

doctorwho said:

fence said:

Both solutions make sense. Logistically moving juniors would keep all the lower grade movements on on track, and would give MV a head start w/ sports. But keeping gold open longer would probably be more popular.

And there is the minor detail of needing a gym and athletic fields right off the bat.

I would like to see enrollment numbers for 2009-10 for WV. For sophmores, this is going to be incredibly painful - move out of your HS and then spend the rest of your HS career in the most overcrowded environment possible. We're building the new HS becuase we're overcrowded, but we're going to add 750 more kids to WV for 2 years and not blink an eye? That seems harsh and totally avoidable.

You mean those going to MV won't be getting the same HS experience as the others in 2009 ?

If you kept Gold open a year longer - would you do so at a lower enrollment than now though? You're not suggesting all freshman got here again and not to their assigned schools - which would only make still another class have to attend a temp HS and then their real HS...

yes, at a lower enrollment. The freshman center would only have the incoming freshman that would attend WV under the new boundaries. The main campus enrollment would be lower because of the smaller sophomore class. The next year the only large class would be the seniors. That would work out pretty well.

[doctorwho]

confused said:

doctorwho said:

You mean those going to MV won't be getting the same HS experience as the others in 2009 ?

If you kept Gold open a year longer - would you do so at a lower enrollment than now though? You're not suggesting all freshman got here again and not to their assigned schools - which would only make still another class have to attend a temp HS and then their real HS...

yes, at a lower enrollment. The freshman center would only have the incoming freshman that would attend WV under the new boundaries. The main campus enrollment would be lower because of the smaller sophomore class. The next year the only large class would be the seniors. That would work out pretty well.

So you would leave Middle Schools like Scullen hundreds of kids over capacity ?


I think it makes more sense tomove the junior class out than continue to leave the MS's that overcrowded -- if we didn't need ther 7th MS ASAP then I'd start to question all the needs - the main crush is in MS in the pipeline is it not ?

[confused]

It's not ideal, but they have already been for 3+ years - I guess they would have to consider which situation was less ideal for the students.