You might be a 204 resident if.............

[swimmom]

So true. Sad though you have to admit

[JB]

Apr 14, 2008 13:40:17 GMT -6 swimmom said:

I disagree with you Arch. I believe people can do both and I hope people are smart enough to differentiate between the two.

Actually, the words of a PTA president carry a lot of weight, and must be used carefully in public. They are looked upon as "in the know".

This was a huge bone of contention in previous years in the IPPC.

[Arch]

Apr 14, 2008 13:47:23 GMT -6 swimmom said:

So true. Sad though you have to admit

Might be sad, but it's reality.

[swimmom]

again, I agree, but only if the PTA president is speaking in that capacity. I know what you are saying about perception, but to me, that is not realilty.

[Arch]

Apr 14, 2008 13:51:49 GMT -6 swimmom said:

again, I agree, but only if the PTA president is speaking in that capacity. I know what you are saying about perception, but to me, that is not realilty.

The perception is that people against the Eola site are only wanting to stay at NVHS and they are elitist racist bad people.

The reality is that many who have never nor will ever step foot inside NVHS are against it too in increasing numbers due to concerns over safety, cost and pending lawsuits against the district, the most damaging ones being the BB lawsuit(s).

The door swings both ways.

[swimmom]

Yes, and I have never once believed that you concern has been anything but enviromental. That is not in dispute. The people I know and talk to know that there are people geniunely concerned about safety issues. That is where we can agree to disagree. There is also a belief that there are individuals who do not want to go to a certain school. WHy is there that perception? Referenum meetings in 2006 where individuals stood up and stated in clear and percise word that they would not go to THAT school. Does everyone from that area feel that way? Of course not. The reality is that I know not everyone from Tall Grass feels that way. It's important to seperate perception from reality.

[twhl]

Apr 14, 2008 13:51:49 GMT -6 swimmom said:

again, I agree, but only if the PTA president is speaking in that capacity. I know what you are saying about perception, but to me, that is not realilty.

One must try and imagine if the Fry or Scullen or WE PTA Pres said something like that...............doesnt really take a lot of imagination. You'd see pitch forks and torches marching on 59 and JC waving her hands in the air.

[swimmom]

I wouldn't hazard a guess what JC would do, as I don't know her. I would have a problem with Fry or Scullen or WE PTA president doing that if they were representing their PTA. If not, they are welcome to express their opinion just like the rest of us.

[snerdley]

The thing is, how does a "regular guy" get interviewed by both the Herald and the Sun. If I call them up will they interview me? So did they interview her because she is PTA president and did she have access to the press for that reason?

And I don't want to pile anymore pain on Jennifer, but I read her quotes in both papers and on the other blog and her comments and position were pretty clear. She never (as far as I remember) indicated anywhere she was talking about a small group of people.

I just think she stepped in dookie when the term "racist" was printed. Otherwise, she'd probably still be on a roll.

[concerned2]

I disagree with that as a PTA president you can make blanket statements about an area as parent in the district. When you take on any role you take the responsibility of that role, whether it be a paid position or voluntary.

No one should be name calling. We all should be presenting facts as to where this 3rd HS should be built. Name calling is very weak and harmful.

[sashimi]

I would ask that we collectively lay off of Ms. Streter for a little bit.

The PTA members from Hill can lend judgment in regards to her comments and whether they feel comfortable with her statements. This is exclusively their business and fortunately, people tend to have short memories and are forgiving. Many of us have also said some things we may regret, and have had a hard time seeing the forest through the trees of late.

The Board and school district created these fights between neighborhoods the second they retained a consultant on what they needed to do to get the 2006 referendum passed (and my opinion is that this continues to be the strategic plan to get from pint A to Point B (or in this case Point W) to distract attention from the history over the past two plus years as well to avoid broad criticism or feedback on the process that continues to be followed.

For the most part, the Board is made up of good people, but I think Mr. Metzger and Dr. Daeschner are approaching the 3d high school like a war game and have little interest in who they hurt as long as they acheive final victory (whatever that is nowadays). It is simply just not responsible to not clean up the mess that was started by the District's own condemnation suit before going on with the purchase of new land.

I for one am sick and tired of playing by this playbook of neighborhood against neighborhood (and I will not participate any longer). I do not care which of the many great neighborhoods that you live in....enough is enough. Our children play sports with each other, we smile at each other when we are at church or at dinner around town (whether it be in Naperville OR Aurora). We would never dream of having these type of exchanges at one of these sporting events or in a public restaurant (but in these blogs...we are just not accountable).

Thus, this is my last post and I am deleting all of the links to these boards from my computer. I have a wife, beautiful children, friends and a job that I have neglected for much too long. I am no longer going to let my life be ruined by Board and the District Administration.

I can only hope that the recent events are a wake up call to everyone in the District and tonight ends up being a milestone in this community that ends up resulting in a concensus on what the right PROCESS is to move forward. Hopefully it will be one that embraces all of the community, but I have my doubts. Nonethesless, I wish you all the best of luck.

Best regards,

[WeBe204]

You might be a 204 resident if threads meant for humor turn serious. ;D

[Avenging Eagle]

back on track.....

you might be a district 204 resident if..... you pass 8 McDonalds on your bus trip each way to school every day

[Arch]

Apr 14, 2008 14:03:48 GMT -6 swimmom said:

Yes, and I have never once believed that you concern has been anything but enviromental. That is not in dispute. The people I know and talk to know that there are people geniunely concerned about safety issues. That is where we can agree to disagree. There is also a belief that there are individuals who do not want to go to a certain school. WHy is there that perception? Referenum meetings in 2006 where individuals stood up and stated in clear and percise word that they would not go to THAT school. Does everyone from that area feel that way? Of course not. The reality is that I know not everyone from Tall Grass feels that way. It's important to seperate perception from reality.

Actually, my concerns cross all things that are a threat at that site. Pipelines, Environmental, ongoing cost to the district, etc.

I'm an equal opportunity worry-wart... It's a part of my job to identify how things can destroy a business and guard against them, regardless how 'inconceivable' or 'unlikely' they may be.

[doctorwho]

Apr 14, 2008 15:27:04 GMT -6 Avenging Eagle said:

back on track.....

you might be a district 204 resident if..... you pass 8 McDonalds on your bus trip each way to school every day

I hear they are actually going to put a mcDonalds on our rocket buses


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