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Post by macy on Apr 15, 2008 7:15:08 GMT -6
POLL RESULTS ::
Are you confident in the District 204 school board’s judgment that the new HS site is safe? Yes 47% 602 votes No 52% 654 votes
Total Votes: 1256 ____________________
Too late suckers. Nobody cares that you are concerned. They stopped listening back in January (maybe even before then).
They took advantage of us. Got the votes, took the money and then slapped us in the face.
Thier actions will have long term ramifications for this district. I have no faith left at all.
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Post by fryfox on Apr 15, 2008 7:20:11 GMT -6
Moderators - could we start a new thread of untruths being told? For example, saying that Macom was $300/acre when macy has the FOIA that proves it was not?
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Post by kimmie on Apr 15, 2008 7:54:29 GMT -6
I want an impeachment of all school board members but CV. And I want it today! How and why are there not checks and balaces to keep a small group from making a such a disaster? What I see coming is district 204 being the owners of the AME and BB land with half a school on one with no money to finish it or money to educate our kids at all the other schools in our district. yahoo what a great school board that we have...
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Post by promark on Apr 15, 2008 8:04:24 GMT -6
It's sad that anyone would believe this.
This church is making a 600% profit on land that was purchased 4 years ago. I dare anyone to find ANY land or property in this area (or even the state) that has appreciated that much over the same period. Guess what -- there isn't any.
If in fact the land is worth 225k per acre, then the question is how the church was able to buy it for 35k per. Does MWGEN (the seller) know something we don't?
There has to be an inquiry into the pricing of this land.
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Post by kimmie on Apr 15, 2008 8:06:43 GMT -6
No appraisal, why would they need one, wouldn't that make them responsible?
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Post by snerdley on Apr 15, 2008 8:16:43 GMT -6
It's sad that anyone would believe this. This church is making a 600% profit on land that was purchased 4 years ago. I dare anyone to find ANY land or property in this area (or even the state) that has appreciated that much over the same period. Guess what -- there isn't any. If in fact the land is worth 225k per acre, then the question is how the church was able to buy it for 35k per. Does MWGEN (the seller) know something we don't? There has to be an inquiry into the pricing of this land. Isn't this (225K) the magic number they budgeted for BB? I'm not sure, but it's ringing a bell. In their infinite wisdom of real estate transactions, did they simply base their offer on what they would have been willing to pay BB? Well, I'm sorry, but having been to Real Estate Appraisal School (both residential and commerical classes due to my job in banking), these two parcels are not compatable. BB is no comp for AME. And NO LENDING INSTITUTION would lend money on a land purchase without a valid appraisal. They could have gotten an appraisal in a day's time if they wanted to. But in the end, we may not have been able to trust it depending on who performed it and how objectively it was done. I wonder if we will see one done now - and it will miraculously support the offer. I won't believe it without them disclosing the comparative properties they used to derive the value. They will have to release the whole appraisal to the public.
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Post by snerdley on Apr 15, 2008 8:19:34 GMT -6
P.S.
The reason they send people from federal banking supervisory agencies to Real Estate Appraisal School is so we can spot if the appraisal is fair and accurate. Some aren't worth the paper they're written on.
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Post by Arch on Apr 15, 2008 8:19:40 GMT -6
Obviously you do not work at the bank where Bruce works. Apparently, in his mind, no one gets an appraisal done.
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Post by snerdley on Apr 15, 2008 8:20:36 GMT -6
Obviously you do not work at the bank where Bruce works. Apparently, in his mind, no one gets an appraisal done. Wonder who regulates his bank?
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Post by Arch on Apr 15, 2008 8:21:40 GMT -6
Obviously you do not work at the bank where Bruce works. Apparently, in his mind, no one gets an appraisal done. Wonder who regulates his bank? I should go there and ask for a loan to buy some land. Let's see if they want to see an appraisal or not.
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Post by mandmmom on Apr 15, 2008 10:51:50 GMT -6
I am simply humbled by the generosity of the Church. To walk away from their dream site and offer to sell the district their entire parcel was truely selfless. They have bailed the school district out of a very tough situation. This has laid the foundation for allowing the individual support and quality education for all our children. The smaller schools will allow for more personal attention and more opportunity to participate in extracuricular activities. The NSFOC lawsuit states that we should build on BB or not build at all. That does not sound like something that is in the best interests of any of our children. We cannot afford BB and we need a new school now. Let's all just peel off the layers and agree that this was nothing more than a boundary dispute. I feel for TG, they will not be able to attend the school that is closest to their homes. I feel for WE, they are being asked to leave a school that they have become accustomed to. I feel for Watts, they are going to have to travel a bit further. Change is difficult but we need to bind together as a community and move forward to begin the healing. At the end of the day, we will have 3 quality schools and better opportunity for our children. Is that so bad? What generosity? The church is making off like bandits, but you are humbled by this...so it is ok to make a HUGE profit off of our children? I don't get how they are being generous....and how it is acceptable for our SB to pay this exorbitant price for the land....another example of our SB not getting the best for our children....something isn't right about all of this.
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Post by acm on Apr 15, 2008 11:43:30 GMT -6
so have been hearing about the "green board". How do I find it, I am curious.
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Post by researching on Apr 15, 2008 11:47:24 GMT -6
I am simply humbled by the generosity of the Church. To walk away from their dream site and offer to sell the district their entire parcel was truely selfless. They have bailed the school district out of a very tough situation. This has laid the foundation for allowing the individual support and quality education for all our children. The smaller schools will allow for more personal attention and more opportunity to participate in extracuricular activities. The NSFOC lawsuit states that we should build on BB or not build at all. That does not sound like something that is in the best interests of any of our children. We cannot afford BB and we need a new school now. Let's all just peel off the layers and agree that this was nothing more than a boundary dispute. I feel for TG, they will not be able to attend the school that is closest to their homes. I feel for WE, they are being asked to leave a school that they have become accustomed to. I feel for Watts, they are going to have to travel a bit further. Change is difficult but we need to bind together as a community and move forward to begin the healing. At the end of the day, we will have 3 quality schools and better opportunity for our children. Is that so bad? What generosity? The church is making off like bandits, but you are humbled by this...so it is ok to make a HUGE profit off of our children? I don't get how they are being generous....and how it is acceptable for our SB to pay this exorbitant price for the land....another example of our SB not getting the best for our children....something isn't right about all of this. I didn't know the church was donating the land to the school district. Because if they are, I would definitely say that is generous. Or even if they were selling it for even a reasonable price, maybe that would be generous. This church is selling this land to us for a TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLAR PER ACRE PROFIT! Without an APPRAISAL! What is generous about that? AME bought this land from Midwest Gen for $35,000 per acre four short years ago. Now, in a VERY down market, our school district is buying this land and giving AME about a $200,000 PER ACRE profit. What you have to ask is why no appraisal and why the price was soooooo cheap ($35,000 per acre) when the church bought it? Maybe because it is cr*p land? This land was owned by the same company that backed out based on public outcry about the safety of the children. What is different? The same company (Midwest Gen), with the same issues, owned this property prior to AME. Did AME do extensive environmental studies / clean up on the land? I still can't get over NO APPRAISAL. And all because, after the BB fiasco, they (the SB) have become experts in real estate. I have been to the doctor a lot, does that make me a doctor now? Seriously.
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Post by fryfox on Apr 15, 2008 11:47:24 GMT -6
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Post by doctorwho on Apr 15, 2008 11:47:35 GMT -6
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