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Post by d204mom on Apr 28, 2008 8:27:47 GMT -6
I have heard many rumors about splitting the district.
Is this feasible? How would it happen? I have heard of districts consolidating but not splitting.
How would it happen?
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Post by d204mom on Apr 28, 2008 8:31:31 GMT -6
OK I'll start.
Don't build MV.
Split Watts and Cowlishaw and Owen East to D203. Add capacity to Naper Central during rebuild. Convert Owen to a D203 middle school.
Build a D204 middle school on AME or 25 BB acres.
Split remainder of D204 between WV and NV (different districts) - no extra HS capacity required.
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Post by d204mom on Apr 28, 2008 8:33:23 GMT -6
Or another idea -
Merge 203 and 204 into a mega district. Build extra capacity onto Naperville Central during rebuild. Reconfigure remaining capacity - potentially build a new middle school on BB or AME.
No additional HS capacity required.
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Post by d204mom on Apr 28, 2008 8:45:10 GMT -6
www.deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,660216981,00.html en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan_School_DistrictWork to split school district underway
March 6th, 2008 @ 10:06pm
Amanda Butterfield reporting Voters decided on a split, and now the work begins separating Jordan School District. Thursday night, one of the first town meetings informing parents on the east side what to expect regarding their kids' education took place. Some parents are still a bit leery of the change. This really is uncharted territory, splitting a district and making a new one, but the town hall meetings are meant to make it all more clear to parents. Suzanne Covey has three children in the Jordan School District. She was at the meeting tonight because she wants to make sure her kids have every opportunity available to them, even while the district is going through a split. "I want to know how the split's going to affect my children, especially living in Draper, a growing area, new schools, all those sorts of questions," Covey said. That is exactly what the town meeting is for: questions and introductions. The Education Transition Team was introduced to parents; they are the group that will host these meetings. The Team consists of Doctor John Bennion and two others who have a background in education administration. None of them is partial to the east or west side; their job is to listen to the community. Dr. Bennion said, "We're just beginning the process of getting feedback. And then we're going to gather the major themes that come out of those gatherings and put them as recommendations for the new board once they are elected." The new board members will be elected this summer. The new district will not function on its own until the 2009-2010 school year, and there's still a lot of work to be done. "It's like opening a new school, affords an opportunity to re-think things and see what people would like to do to make the district the best it can be," Dr. Bennion said. The west side district has not started having any public meetings but likely will this summer. There are two more meetings set for the east side: Brighton High School, Wednesday, March 12 Jordan High School, Thursday, March 13
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Post by doctorwho on Apr 28, 2008 9:09:49 GMT -6
Or another idea - Merge 203 and 204 into a mega district. Build extra capacity onto Naperville Central during rebuild. Reconfigure remaining capacity - potentially build a new middle school on BB or AME. No additional HS capacity required. Finally- Walkers ! ;D I would think the tax complications of that would be astounding...although now that we are closer to build out than say 10 years ago, it would be a little better. What would the incentive be for 203 ? They get land for free from Mitchell estate and we pay 3 times what the previous 4 years owner paid for land with issues. |
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Post by overtaxed on Apr 28, 2008 9:14:24 GMT -6
Mega district would be better. In a lot of east coast school districts they are county wide. Therefore there are a lot of high schools in the district. Where we live there were 13 high schools in the county. Bigger is better in a lot of ways. More money (for the schools) for the lower income areas. More money for special needs, more programs for the gifted, etc...
There was a lot of support for teachers from the district to improve. Everyone was on the same page in learning. If a student moves in the county from school "A" to school "G” they should be with in one week of being on the same page.
For the low performing schools (NCLB) there were programs for the students to take extra reading, math, English... to actually HELP the student achieve more. The taxes were better because we were support one school district for a county and not like here. Too many school districts, too small, too much overhead-that’s our cost from our taxes.
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Post by Arch on Apr 28, 2008 9:46:51 GMT -6
FL was and I believe still is by county.
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Post by d204mom on Apr 28, 2008 9:54:03 GMT -6
Or another idea - Merge 203 and 204 into a mega district. Build extra capacity onto Naperville Central during rebuild. Reconfigure remaining capacity - potentially build a new middle school on BB or AME. No additional HS capacity required. Finally- Walkers ! ;D I would think the tax complications of that would be astounding...although now that we are closer to build out than say 10 years ago, it would be a little better. What would the incentive be for 203 ? They get land for free from Mitchell estate and we pay 3 times what the previous 4 years owner paid for land with issues. Advantage to D203: They are tight on ES and MS space. Will-o-Way wouldn't have to be bussed across the district. |
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Post by d204mom on Apr 28, 2008 9:57:30 GMT -6
Mega district would be better. In a lot of east coast school districts they are county wide. Therefore there are a lot of high schools in the district. Where we live there were 13 high schools in the county. Bigger is better in a lot of ways. More money (for the schools) for the lower income areas. More money for special needs, more programs for the gifted, etc... There was a lot of support for teachers from the district to improve. Everyone was on the same page in learning. If a student moves in the county from school "A" to school "G” they should be with in one week of being on the same page. For the low performing schools (NCLB) there were programs for the students to take extra reading, math, English... to actually HELP the student achieve more. The taxes were better because we were support one school district for a county and not like here. Too many school districts, too small, too much overhead-that’s our cost from our taxes. Mega - district would be better for south D203 too. They have the same problem as us - not enough HS capacity in the south end of the district. But you can only fit so many into NV as we are painfully aware. |
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Post by scarbroughknight on Apr 28, 2008 12:21:34 GMT -6
I brought this subject up the other day. I think it is something that needs to be talked about considering all that has happened. I doubt if 203 would go for a mega school district; they don't want 204s troubles. Besides a SD that size would be difficult to run. Nevertheless a split would probably be the best solution in erasing the anger and bitterness. Besides we would have two new SBs. The south has been complaining they have little or no representation on the SB. When the four seats are up for election next year I believe there may be two new members from TG considering the activism there. That would be unacceptable to many people particularly in the north.
As the southwest likes to point out 70% of the school population is south of Montgomery Road and they pay the higher taxes which is true. They can pay for a new HS in their own back yard. The north can still get by with WV.
Because of what has happened 204 will never be what it once was. I think it will be even worse once everything concerning the SB past dealings comes out. An incompetent and possibly corrupt SB and people who think they are better then others in the district. To put it starkly 204 is finished. We do need to move on and leave this wreckage behind.
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Post by WeBe204 on Apr 28, 2008 12:28:03 GMT -6
Take it from my experience in Oak Park. You do not want a school district that is all residents and no industry/retail. You think our taxes are high now. So, splitting north/south for me is not do able. That does not negate all the ideas put forth.
Maybe there will be animosity forever in 204. Who knows. I certainly do not "HATE" people because they live in certain locations. Sure, I do "HATE" this current process. I think opening the voting booths back up would be a good step forward.
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Post by gman413 on Apr 28, 2008 12:48:34 GMT -6
I brought this subject up the other day. I think it is something that needs to be talked about considering all that has happened. I doubt if 203 would go for a mega school district; they don't want 204s troubles. Besides a SD that size would be difficult to run. Nevertheless a split would probably be the best solution in erasing the anger and bitterness. Besides we would have two new SBs. The south has been complaining they have little or no representation on the SB. When the four seats are up for election next year I believe there may be two new members from TG considering the activism there. That would be unacceptable to many people particularly in the north. As the southwest likes to point out 70% of the school population is south of Montgomery Road and they pay the higher taxes which is true. They can pay for a new HS in their own back yard. The north can still get by with WV. Because of what has happened 204 will never be what it once was. I think it will be even worse once everything concerning the SB past dealings comes out. An incompetent and possibly corrupt SB and people who think they are better then others in the district. To put it starkly 204 is finished. We do need to move on and leave this wreckage behind. While the situation has not been pleasant, deeming district 204 as "finished" sounds like hyperbole to me. This may remain a dark chapter in the history but much good remains. |
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Post by spousestonethrow on Apr 28, 2008 12:52:24 GMT -6
I have heard many rumors about splitting the district. Is this feasible? How would it happen? I have heard of districts consolidating but not splitting. How would it happen? I don't see this happening while M2 is sitting on board and we have Dr Disaster in the picture. |
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Post by scarbroughknight on Apr 28, 2008 13:02:29 GMT -6
I have heard many rumors about splitting the district. Is this feasible? How would it happen? I have heard of districts consolidating but not splitting. How would it happen? I don't see this happening while M2 is sitting on board and we have Dr Disaster in the picture. I can't help but wonder if there is a legal way to fire the entire board. There has been mismanagement of funds. If this was in the corperate world that might be cause alone for a possible inditement if found to be delibrate. Couldn't that alone be reason? |
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Post by fence on Apr 28, 2008 13:39:41 GMT -6
I hate the idea of splitting the district, or merging the district, or whatever. We have problems with trust and decision-making of our leadership. Handle it like a company - change the leadership, add a layer of governance, and try to move forward from there. I personally would like to see the entire SB be enough to admit that it is better for this district if they all step aside. Whether or not they feel they were personally responsible, as a group that should be what they do. I think Dr. D's approach perpetuates the behavior we've seen up until now. I don't believe there's malice, but I see alot of decision for decision's sake. Trying to get stuff done is great but we're missing a level of diplomacy that the people in this district do require. Not sure how to resolve that. Maybe a therapist?!!
And there's never been any love lost between the north and the south. IIRC it was nastier than this during the 2006 referendum. Expecting a big love-fest is never going to happen, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't expect a return to normalcy and civility.
I for one have had my eyes open to the WV situation, and I like that this is out of the closet so to speak. I think we all should feel more accountablity and ownership for the success of all of our schools, and try to do what we can to keep an eye on them regardless of whether or not we attend.
Maybe that's what we can take from this is more ownership of the district as a whole vs. just our own schools.
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