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Post by southsidemom on May 2, 2008 21:08:22 GMT -6
QUOTE: Both sides said that while they agreed to mediation, they did not want it to cause a delay in the case. The district's motion to dismiss is still scheduled to be heard on May 23.TRANSLATION: We both know where this is going, but we'll go through the motions and pretend to play nice in the sandbox before we start throwing sand at each other again. You got it!
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Post by cb on May 2, 2008 21:08:28 GMT -6
Well we can either survey everybody ( our Super did tell us how much he likes surveys and they are cost efficient - but we've yet to see one) - or do the first sub group affected - I don't care... of course if we don't have an issue -as the silent majority says - then we can move on - high schools for everyone. And yes I have thought about the bus costs - well they don't seem concerned that AME will cost more than BB would have - just compare it to 2 schools - Heck I'll chip in and supply my own transportation. btw -- since you don't want to attend AME I hear you must either be one of the entitled 9 - or at least a paying nsfoc member everyone else is thrilled with the site - the commute and all that goes with it. DR I have listened to your one sided posts for awhile and truly, the only thing that the SB wants to say to PLY's is try to build a big bridge and get over it. There are way more important problems in the world, district, community than a single, ok than a feww 100 people's commute when trying to satisfy tens of thoussands. There...I said what a few hundred one this board wish they had the chutzpah to say to you...Shanti ru4real, it is people like you who make me want to send in my check for $204.
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Post by southsidemom on May 2, 2008 21:13:28 GMT -6
Well we can either survey everybody ( our Super did tell us how much he likes surveys and they are cost efficient - but we've yet to see one) - or do the first sub group affected - I don't care... of course if we don't have an issue -as the silent majority says - then we can move on - high schools for everyone. And yes I have thought about the bus costs - well they don't seem concerned that AME will cost more than BB would have - just compare it to 2 schools - Heck I'll chip in and supply my own transportation. btw -- since you don't want to attend AME I hear you must either be one of the entitled 9 - or at least a paying nsfoc member everyone else is thrilled with the site - the commute and all that goes with it. DR I have listened to your one sided posts for awhile and truly, the only thing that the SB wants to say to PLY's is try to build a big bridge and get over it. There are way more important problems in the world, district, community than a single, ok than a feww 100 people's commute when trying to satisfy tens of thoussands. There...I said what a few hundred one this board wish they had the chutzpah to say to you...Shanti RU4Real- At first I thought this post was a joke. Once I got through figuring out the grammar, I now think I read what you were saying. And who the heck is Shanti? Have you had one too many boxes of wine tonight? ;D
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Post by ru4real on May 2, 2008 21:13:47 GMT -6
DR I have listened to your one sided posts for awhile and truly, the only thing that the SB wants to say to PLY's is try to build a big bridge and get over it. There are way more important problems in the world, district, community than a single, ok than a feww 100 people's commute when trying to satisfy tens of thoussands. There...I said what a few hundred one this board wish they had the chutzpah to say to you...Shanti ru4real, it is people like you who make me want to send in my check for $204. Why???
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Post by southsidemom on May 2, 2008 21:15:24 GMT -6
Maybe the district will make a good first move and promise not to start any construction until all 6 pipelines have ACVs on both sides of the property slightly beyond the property line, to isolate that section of line in the event of an accident. Being that the kid's safety is the #1 concern, this should have been insisted by the district to the pipeline operators already. While they are installing the ACVs on them all, they can replace the pipes themselves and restart the clock for all 6 lines. With all due respect Arch, I dare say that the SB is not going into mediation of Nblanketyblank to do what you feel is necessary. If everyone were as concerned as you, progress would not have started on said property. SB is just looking for an easy, fast way to begin @ EOLA even if 400 people in the district disagree for their own reasons. Oh you have the list? You must if you know the number is 400! Please share.
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Post by ru4real on May 2, 2008 21:21:11 GMT -6
With all due respect Arch, I dare say that the SB is not going into mediation of Nblanketyblank to do what you feel is necessary. If everyone were as concerned as you, progress would not have started on said property. SB is just looking for an easy, fast way to begin @ EOLA even if 400 people in the district disagree for their own reasons. Oh you have the list? You must if you know the number is 400! Please share. Do you?? Because if everyone on every rainbow coalition proboard were not in favor of MV it would still equal less than 2% .
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Post by Arch on May 2, 2008 21:21:54 GMT -6
Maybe the district will make a good first move and promise not to start any construction until all 6 pipelines have ACVs on both sides of the property slightly beyond the property line, to isolate that section of line in the event of an accident. Being that the kid's safety is the #1 concern, this should have been insisted by the district to the pipeline operators already. While they are installing the ACVs on them all, they can replace the pipes themselves and restart the clock for all 6 lines. Arch: that is a very intersting idea - installing ACVs at each end of the third of a mile of pipeline bordering the site, and changing the pipes. Have you discussed this in anther thread before? That seems to be something well worth investigating. Cheers. I attempted to when someone said they are safe because they have ACV on the pipelines. I asked where they are and how close are they on both sides of the property because both directions will vent and release pressure back to the valves. The statute reads that as a HCA, each point along the pipeline must be within 2.5 miles of a valve. That really means they can be up to 5 miles apart from each other. The amount of gas that exists at 700PSI for 700 feet (the approximate length of the property) compared to the volume of gas that exists over 5 miles of pipes (the upper limit of the legal requirement for a HCA) or 26,400 feet is a HUGE difference. If the sh!t hits the fan, venting 700 feet of gas is far better than venting 26,400 feet of gas. We're talking about cutting the worst case scenerio potential to 1/37th what it might be right now. Still, I would like to know exactly where (on both sides of the property) the valves are located and the distance between them today. Here's an opportunity to take the wind out of the sails of people concerned about pipeline safety and actually MAKE A DIFFERENCE ABOUT THE REAL SAFETY. Will they do it? It's not a HCA at the moment, but will be when we put a school there so there exists the possibility that the pipeline companies have to do something about it anyway because the distance requirements are tighter for HCAs than areas that are not HCA.
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Post by d204mom on May 2, 2008 21:23:52 GMT -6
DR I have listened to your one sided posts for awhile and truly, the only thing that the SB wants to say to PLY's is try to build a big bridge and get over it. There are way more important problems in the world, district, community than a single, ok than a feww 100 people's commute when trying to satisfy tens of thoussands. There...I said what a few hundred one this board wish they had the chutzpah to say to you...Shanti ru4real, it is people like you who make me want to send in my check for $204. I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that is the intention ... ?
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Post by ru4real on May 2, 2008 21:24:49 GMT -6
Arch: that is a very intersting idea - installing ACVs at each end of the third of a mile of pipeline bordering the site, and changing the pipes. Have you discussed this in anther thread before? That seems to be something well worth investigating. Cheers. I attempted to when someone said they are safe because they have ACV on the pipelines. I asked where they are and how close are they on both sides of the property because both directions will vent and release pressure back to the valves. The statute reads that as a HCA, each point along the pipeline must be within 2.5 miles of a valve. That really means they can be up to 5 miles apart from each other. The amount of gas that exists at 700PSI for 700 feet (the approximate length of the property) compared to the volume of gas that exists over 5 miles of pipes (the upper limit of the legal requirement for a HCA) or 26,400 feet is a HUGE difference. If the sh!t hits the fan, venting 700 feet of gas is far better than venting 26,400 feet of gas. We're talking about cutting the worst case scenerio potential to 1/37th what it might be right now. Still, I would like to know exactly where (on both sides of the property) the valves are located and the distance between them today. Here's an opportunity to take the wind out of the sails of people concerned about pipeline safety and actually MAKE A DIFFERENCE ABOUT THE REAL SAFETY. Will they do it? It's not a HCA at the moment, but will be when we put a school there so there exists the possibility that the pipeline companies have to do something about it anyway because the distance requirements are tighter for HCAs than areas that are not HCA.
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Post by rural on May 2, 2008 21:25:25 GMT -6
DR I have listened to your one sided posts for awhile and truly, the only thing that the SB wants to say to PLY's is try to build a big bridge and get over it. There are way more important problems in the world, district, community than a single, ok than a feww 100 people's commute when trying to satisfy tens of thoussands. There...I said what a few hundred one this board wish they had the chutzpah to say to you...Shanti RU4Real- At first I thought this post was a joke. Once I got through figuring out the grammar, I now think I read what you were saying. And who the heck is Shanti? Have you had one too many boxes of wine tonight? ;D Shanti: Sanskrit for Peace ETA: pretty impressive, Yiddish and Sanskrit in the same sentence!
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Post by rural on May 2, 2008 21:26:23 GMT -6
DR I have listened to your one sided posts for awhile and truly, the only thing that the SB wants to say to PLY's is try to build a big bridge and get over it. There are way more important problems in the world, district, community than a single, ok than a feww 100 people's commute when trying to satisfy tens of thoussands. There...I said what a few hundred one this board wish they had the chutzpah to say to you...Shanti ru4real, it is people like you who make me want to send in my check for $204. I would suggest waiting until after May 23 to send it in.
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Post by ru4real on May 2, 2008 21:27:07 GMT -6
DR I have listened to your one sided posts for awhile and truly, the only thing that the SB wants to say to PLY's is try to build a big bridge and get over it. There are way more important problems in the world, district, community than a single, ok than a feww 100 people's commute when trying to satisfy tens of thoussands. There...I said what a few hundred one this board wish they had the chutzpah to say to you...Shanti RU4Real- At first I thought this post was a joke. Once I got through figuring out the grammar, I now think I read what you were saying. And who the heck is Shanti? Have you had one too many boxes of wine tonight? ;D Dear Dear ssm, I care not about your slams and it is so telling that you have to google shanti
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Post by doctorwho on May 2, 2008 21:30:43 GMT -6
Well we can either survey everybody ( our Super did tell us how much he likes surveys and they are cost efficient - but we've yet to see one) - or do the first sub group affected - I don't care... of course if we don't have an issue -as the silent majority says - then we can move on - high schools for everyone. And yes I have thought about the bus costs - well they don't seem concerned that AME will cost more than BB would have - just compare it to 2 schools - Heck I'll chip in and supply my own transportation. btw -- since you don't want to attend AME I hear you must either be one of the entitled 9 - or at least a paying nsfoc member everyone else is thrilled with the site - the commute and all that goes with it. DR I have listened to your one sided posts for awhile and truly, the only thing that the SB wants to say to PLY's is try to build a big bridge and get over it. There are way more important problems in the world, district, community than a single, ok than a feww 100 people's commute when trying to satisfy tens of thoussands. There...I said what a few hundred one this board wish they had the chutzpah to say to you...Shanti Good for you...I guess I have to look at your posts differently now- I didn't realize you were up for the Nobel. My issues are just as important as everyone else's - my vote counts as much, and my tax dollars count as much. there are plenty of places in the world where that is not true -- you obviously would be more comfotable in one of them. I've never known Chanti to mean - Sit Down and Shut Up - I guess you have a different translation guide.
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Post by rural on May 2, 2008 21:32:04 GMT -6
ru4real, I must say that while I'm impressed with your grasp of languages, I'm not with your grasp of the issues faced across this district. The people from Watts have a very legitimate gripe. They were thrown under the bus, so to speak, for the benefit of the rest of the district. It's an issue that's important to doc and I would think most other people in his area. To just say, "Too bad for you!" doesn't accomplish anything but derision for your opinions. I would suggest taking a moment to think about what you post before clicking the button.
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Post by ru4real on May 2, 2008 21:33:04 GMT -6
DR I have listened to your one sided posts for awhile and truly, the only thing that the SB wants to say to PLY's is try to build a big bridge and get over it. There are way more important problems in the world, district, community than a single, ok than a feww 100 people's commute when trying to satisfy tens of thoussands. There...I said what a few hundred one this board wish they had the chutzpah to say to you...Shanti Good for you...I guess I have to look at your posts differently now- I didn't realize you were up for the Nobel. My issues are just as important as everyone else's - my vote counts as much, and my tax dollars count as much. there are plenty of places in the world where that is not true -- you obviously would be more comfotable in one of them. I've never known Chanti to mean - Sit Down and Shut Up - I guess you have a different translation guide. Spell check both the spelling and the definition,,both fail you
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