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Post by ru4real on May 29, 2008 19:54:44 GMT -6
I already graduated from high school. With the level of arguments and childish comments you are coming up with, I have to ask if you even have a grade school diploma. I was thinking the same thing! ru4real is simply following the example that our SB / Admin continue to set. They all respond the same to educated and intelligent arguments..."fence that baby off" and "nincompoop" come to mind. Whatever.  researching if you can be truthful,,,which Sb member did you NOT vote for?? |
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Post by southsidemom on May 29, 2008 19:58:24 GMT -6
The other half is not making sense to me either. Awww Sour grapes that you will be going to WV?? Was that directed at me? If so, perhaps you did not read my post. Children are small and by the time high school arrives we may or may not be here.....but if so we have the ability to attend the assigned public school or educate in the private school system. Does not matter either way to us when it comes to gettint the best education for our children. So no sour grapes here at all.  |
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Post by MustangSix on May 29, 2008 19:59:03 GMT -6
Hey, I voted for them all and thought .... "no victims, only volunteers" LOL. Seriously, that's just a no win job. No wonder Bruce Rodman took his Option 9 and went home.
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Post by ru4real on May 29, 2008 20:01:43 GMT -6
Unfortunately lori, many of us had kids whose plight was not considered at all. I understand totally what you are saying, however when your own children have been overlooked - and viewed as part of some re engineering of Waubonsie decision, I will not be supporting that cause. let me ask you this question one last time ( for old times sake) - did the people of Brookdale vote 80% No for the right reasons ? How did it work out for them ? I would expert areas that feel screwed by the location / commute/ site - switch to vote heaqvily like they did - when one feels like the screw job side of decisions are directed at your kids - ( like BD did, and I do now) - the answer for agreement on things will be no. I understand your position. I can't speak for Brookdale. I can speak for my own feelings about how people got "screwed over". When Owen East split off from Owen West without a word to/with the Owen West parents, it felt like we got screwed over, too. We would have supported their position and likely advocated for them knowing their reasons ( I realize they are similar to the reasons for Watts not wanting to travel all the way to Eola, but that is not my point). My point is the Owen community, IMO, and of others who I have talked to felt like they got thrown under the bus. I think it's water under the bridge now, but the now Owen West seems to always get the shaft. We moved from White Eagle ES, then to McCarty, and then to Owen. This group of people has the longest commute to an ES in the district. However, I don't think any one of us would change that now. So for us to have one of the longest commutes to HS I suppose is "no big deal" for us. In fact, the commute to Eola and the commute to Owen ES is the same - I drove it one day. People talked of putting the Eola site back on a ballot. Even though the HS will no longer be "in my back yard", I would still vote for the Eola site, so location has not made a difference for me. My support was for a 3rd HS and still is. I understand though, that there might be some that fall into the category you mentioned, and of course, there will always be those people in any district. My plea was just to keep an open mind regarding the referendum itself and try to disregard the people behind it. I know that will be difficult for some. However, there have been people that have visited the green board that have said they will do just that, so I have hope. Good point I wish more people thought like you I also wish more people knew people around the U.S. who's kids travel times are much longer than any lie of 30 minutes.. As a matter of fact, my nieces' commute to HS is exactly 45 minutes and the HS is 4 MILES AWAY. The sour grapes posting here is old. And, their worthiness with the SB was reaching the waning point. |
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Post by researching on May 29, 2008 20:04:42 GMT -6
Unfortunately lori, many of us had kids whose plight was not considered at all. I understand totally what you are saying, however when your own children have been overlooked - and viewed as part of some re engineering of Waubonsie decision, I will not be supporting that cause. let me ask you this question one last time ( for old times sake) - did the people of Brookdale vote 80% No for the right reasons ? How did it work out for them ? I would expert areas that feel screwed by the location / commute/ site - switch to vote heaqvily like they did - when one feels like the screw job side of decisions are directed at your kids - ( like BD did, and I do now) - the answer for agreement on things will be no. I understand your position. I can't speak for Brookdale. I can speak for my own feelings about how people got "screwed over". When Owen East split off from Owen West without a word to/with the Owen West parents, it felt like we got screwed over, too. We would have supported their position and likely advocated for them knowing their reasons ( I realize they are similar to the reasons for Watts not wanting to travel all the way to Eola, but that is not my point). My point is the Owen community, IMO, and of others who I have talked to felt like they got thrown under the bus. I think it's water under the bridge now, but the now Owen West seems to always get the shaft. We moved from White Eagle ES, then to McCarty, and then to Owen. This group of people has the longest commute to an ES in the district. However, I don't think any one of us would change that now. So for us to have one of the longest commutes to HS I suppose is "no big deal" for us. In fact, the commute to Eola and the commute to Owen ES is the same - I drove it one day. People talked of putting the Eola site back on a ballot. Even though the HS will no longer be "in my back yard", I would still vote for the Eola site, so location has not made a difference for me. My support was for a 3rd HS and still is. I understand though, that there might be some that fall into the category you mentioned, and of course, there will always be those people in any district. My plea was just to keep an open mind regarding the referendum itself and try to disregard the people behind it. I know that will be difficult for some. However, there have been people that have visited the green board that have said they will do just that, so I have hope. I respect your opinion however, I would never vote YES to a site that has such obvious risks to the health and well being of our children and staff. The tragedy is that so many parents so easily disregard that and can't wait to put their kids on the bus. The worst part of all is for parents like Arch who have always put the safety of his children first and now have to suffer the consequences of the actions this rogue SB has taken. |
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Post by ru4real on May 29, 2008 20:05:04 GMT -6
Awww Sour grapes that you will be going to WV?? Was that directed at me? If so, perhaps you did not read my post. Children are small and by the time high school arrives we may or may not be here.....but if so we have the ability to attend the assigned public school or educate in the private school system. Does not matter either way to us when it comes to gettint the best education for our children. So no sour grapes here at all. Oh and FYI in case The "What to expect during the toddler years" book doesn't highlight it, the most important educator for your little bambinos is......................... YOU, not the school |
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Post by researching on May 29, 2008 20:05:55 GMT -6
I was thinking the same thing! ru4real is simply following the example that our SB / Admin continue to set. They all respond the same to educated and intelligent arguments..."fence that baby off" and "nincompoop" come to mind. Whatever. researching if you can be truthful,,,which Sb member did you NOT vote for?? I can happily say that I didn't vote for a SINGLE one. ;D |
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Post by doctorwho on May 29, 2008 20:06:30 GMT -6
I have explained many times why I switched sides- your comprehension skills do not allow you to get it - so sorry. I did not want BB for myself- also in the archives- I preferred WVHS. I was willing to live with BB because it was the closest school...the shiny new school didn;t do anything for me when NV was built and doesn't do anything for me now. AS far as pushing the referendum, yes I did, based on trust that the 10,400 number was the correct one. That now turns out to be totally false ( as of March 4, 2008 - when I saw proof) - that will allow someone to change their mind. I have not changed my mind about you however, no matter how many different names you post under. Yeah, we know which ones are yours...and that is grounds for banishment also... however the way this board works now is we allow for opinions, even those we don't like. As for calling for my banning - after the stuff you have poseted over the years ( all availablke in the archives as well) - it's laughable-- but as for wanting me gone from the blogs -- today's ruling will likely give you your wish anyway. It will be the last time I explain anything regarding you - and I do so only for the newer posters who don't know what you are all about. You'll have to find a new hobby once I leave this board -- You continue to post 'leaving this board' but you don't (addiction??) You continue to post "I will not answer you" and yet hear you are?? What gives ?? is the addiction your expert medical opinion ? |
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Post by ru4real on May 29, 2008 20:07:07 GMT -6
I understand your position. I can't speak for Brookdale. I can speak for my own feelings about how people got "screwed over". When Owen East split off from Owen West without a word to/with the Owen West parents, it felt like we got screwed over, too. We would have supported their position and likely advocated for them knowing their reasons ( I realize they are similar to the reasons for Watts not wanting to travel all the way to Eola, but that is not my point). My point is the Owen community, IMO, and of others who I have talked to felt like they got thrown under the bus. I think it's water under the bridge now, but the now Owen West seems to always get the shaft. We moved from White Eagle ES, then to McCarty, and then to Owen. This group of people has the longest commute to an ES in the district. However, I don't think any one of us would change that now. So for us to have one of the longest commutes to HS I suppose is "no big deal" for us. In fact, the commute to Eola and the commute to Owen ES is the same - I drove it one day. People talked of putting the Eola site back on a ballot. Even though the HS will no longer be "in my back yard", I would still vote for the Eola site, so location has not made a difference for me. My support was for a 3rd HS and still is. I understand though, that there might be some that fall into the category you mentioned, and of course, there will always be those people in any district. My plea was just to keep an open mind regarding the referendum itself and try to disregard the people behind it. I know that will be difficult for some. However, there have been people that have visited the green board that have said they will do just that, so I have hope. I respect your opinion however, I would never vote YES to a site that has such obvious risks to the health and well being of our children and staff. The tragedy is that so many parents so easily disregard that and can't wait to put their kids on the bus. The worst part of all is for parents like Arch who have always put the safety of his children first and now have to suffer the consequences of the actions this rogue SB has taken. Research if the minority has a point, make it... sign a petition or sue ;D otherwise, let the SD do their job and fund this needless 3rd hs |
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Post by refbasics on May 29, 2008 20:11:47 GMT -6
from sashimi- ... "In that the Judge found that the language of the referendum was unambiguous, then his finding that NSFOC does not have the right to try to challenge the District's discretion of choosing a school site (which is granted by law) is logical..." from judge popejoy... "the presumption in illinois is that the ballot is considered on its own terms without any reference to extrinsic information" ------------ does this mean that: reading any school communications reading newspaper articles studying demograpic information listening to how part of my tax bill will decrease being informed that SD 204 tax bills are favorable compared to other school districts being informed that eminent domain is a proper way for a school district to acquire land and attending SB meetings and coffees was unecessary to become 'informed'  i am glad to find this out... i will not 'bother' to inform myself of anything. I will only read what future ballots say.. and interpret them in the strictest sense. i will save a lot ot time and energy, and i will be voting, correctly, according to the state of Illinois standards!  |
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Post by d204mom on May 29, 2008 20:16:07 GMT -6
from sashimi- ... "In that the Judge found that the language of the referendum was unambiguous, then his finding that NSFOC does not have the right to try to challenge the District's discretion of choosing a school site (which is granted by law) is logical..." from judge popejoy... "the presumption in illinois is that the ballot is considered on its own terms without any reference to extrinsic information" ------------ does this mean that: reading any school communications reading newspaper articles studying demograpic information listening to how part of my tax bill will decrease being informed that SD 204 tax bills are favorable compared to other school districts being informed that eminent domain is a proper way for a school district to acquire land and attending SB meetings and coffees was unecessary to become 'informed' i am glad to find this out... i will not 'bother' to inform myself of anything. I will only read what future ballots say.. and interpret them in the strictest sense. i will save a lot ot time and energy, and i will be voting, correctly, according to the state of Illinois standards! don't worry ref, a bunch of people signed a petition stating that they understood the ballot included wording about converting WV Gold into a middle school ETA - and in the future we all need to consider the D204 spin - even if we knowingly lie to your face it's legal so SCREW YOU! |
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Post by southsidemom on May 29, 2008 20:16:31 GMT -6
Was that directed at me? If so, perhaps you did not read my post. Children are small and by the time high school arrives we may or may not be here.....but if so we have the ability to attend the assigned public school or educate in the private school system. Does not matter either way to us when it comes to gettint the best education for our children. So no sour grapes here at all. Oh and FYI in case The "What to expect during the toddler years" book doesn't highlight it, the most important educator for your little bambinos is......................... YOU, not the school Hmmm.....last time I check I did not homeschool! You are so twisted that it is actually amusing. I need to meet you one day. A real character my dear! LOL |
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Post by ru4real on May 29, 2008 20:16:49 GMT -6
from sashimi- ... "In that the Judge found that the language of the referendum was unambiguous, then his finding that NSFOC does not have the right to try to challenge the District's discretion of choosing a school site (which is granted by law) is logical..." from judge popejoy... "the presumption in illinois is that the ballot is considered on its own terms without any reference to extrinsic information" ------------ does this mean that: reading any school communications reading newspaper articles studying demograpic information listening to how part of my tax bill will decrease being informed that SD 204 tax bills are favorable compared to other school districts being informed that eminent domain is a proper way for a school district to acquire land and attending SB meetings and coffees was unecessary to become 'informed' i am glad to find this out... i will not 'bother' to inform myself of anything. I will only read what future ballots say.. and interpret them in the strictest sense. i will save a lot ot time and energy, and i will be voting, correctly, according to the state of Illinois standards! my point exactly |
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Post by southsidemom on May 29, 2008 20:17:57 GMT -6
researching if you can be truthful,,,which Sb member did you NOT vote for?? I can happily say that I didn't vote for a SINGLE one. ;D I am proud to say NEITHER DID I!!!!!! |
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Post by Arch on May 29, 2008 20:18:17 GMT -6
Point obviously heard loud and clear. |
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