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Post by doctorwho on Jun 6, 2008 9:36:54 GMT -6
Researching, I am so sorry for the concerns that you have. In all honesty, I think there are many things in this world that we cannot control so it really all boils down to how we choose to approach and handle these situations personally. I do not think your children will be viewed as anything other than another Warrior and classmate in the eyes of the other kids. They will all be on the "same" team both literally and figuratively. My kid just found out the other day where one of his buddy's lives when we had to drop him off over by Home Depot. They've been friends since last September. I will have a Junior at WV in 2009 and a younger one at MV. My older one could honestly care less about any of the stuff associated with the third high school. They (the kids)really don't bother themselves with it. Truly. The younger one is sad not to be going to WV but kind of glad not to be at the same school as the older one. Figures.  My unsolicited advice (sorry) is to stop talking about the whole thing entirely (at least in regards to the kids) and start attending camps, events, programs at WV so your kid can get familiar with the environment.There are also lots of opportunities for parental involvement and I think this helps sometimes when transitioning. You can go to the WV website and download a multitude of sports camps,etc. Before long they'll be asking for a Warrior sweatshirt ;D As far as the crowding thing, WV actually is set up to handle the hallway crowds better than NV. Essentially, the grades will be sequestered in their own block areas for most classes. The lunchroom also has a much better flow with each grade level eating primarily together. I hope I am giving you some positive feedback here as I do truly believe your son or daughter will not only be happy at WV but will thrive! Thank you so much for your words of encouragement. I do really appreciate it. I have a lot to consider in the next year and I will certainly remember your post. I also echo what Sardines said -- I think your experience at WVHS will meet and exceed your expectations. Now of course this is based on my experince from 1999- 2003 - but my guess is it will be similar. My daughter and her friends also speak very fondly of their days there - trust me I and many in my area wish that was our option. ( Although I understand completely how it feels to be taken from your' home school' - I do not want to minimize that feeling )- |
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Post by researching on Jun 6, 2008 10:23:34 GMT -6
Thank you so much for your words of encouragement. I do really appreciate it. I have a lot to consider in the next year and I will certainly remember your post. I also echo what Sardines said -- I think your experience at WVHS will meet and exceed your expectations. Now of course this is based on my experince from 1999- 2003 - but my guess is it will be similar. My daughter and her friends also speak very fondly of their days there - trust me I and many in my area wish that was our option. ( Although I understand completely how it feels to be taken from your' home school' - I do not want to minimize that feeling )- Thanks Doc and Sardines for your encouraging words. It means a lot. The Scullen 8th Grade "send off" was such a disappointment that it basically sent me into a panic. I was surprised by how far reaching this circumstance is and that it affected my family so personally. It is individuals like you (and many others on this board) that give me a bit of hope for my 8th grader's future experiences in this district. Unfortunately, it was never individuals like you all that I was worried about. I read the Sun blog once and only once. My stomach couldn't take it. The hate being thrown at my area was astounding. Those are the families I worry about. ETA: My stomach is also the reason that I do not read the "GREEN" board. |
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Post by doctorwho on Jun 6, 2008 10:41:38 GMT -6
I also echo what Sardines said -- I think your experience at WVHS will meet and exceed your expectations. Now of course this is based on my experince from 1999- 2003 - but my guess is it will be similar. My daughter and her friends also speak very fondly of their days there - trust me I and many in my area wish that was our option. ( Although I understand completely how it feels to be taken from your' home school' - I do not want to minimize that feeling )- Thanks Doc and Sardines for your encouraging words. It means a lot. The Scullen 8th Grade "send off" was such a disappointment that it basically sent me into a panic. I was surprised by how far reaching this circumstance is and that it affected my family so personally. It is individuals like you (and many others on this board) that give me a bit of hope for my 8th grader's future experiences in this district. Unfortunately, it was never individuals like you all that I was worried about. I read the Sun blog once and only once. My stomach couldn't take it. The hate being thrown at my area was astounding. Those are the families I worry about. ETA: My stomach is also the reason that I do not read the "GREEN" board. glad we are here to prevent a forum for all 204 - the disenfranchised as well as everybody else. I agree the people on the Sun blog would scare the heck out of anyone - let's please hope none of them have any influence anywhere. |
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Post by specailneedsmom on Jun 6, 2008 10:53:13 GMT -6
I read through the green board this morning and noted the comments about people drawing the conclusion that disappointment with the Scullen graduation was being blamed on the SB. While I'm not sure I totally agree with that comment, it is a big stretch to say that Scullen's graduation, good or bad, had anything at all to do with the SB.
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Post by researching on Jun 6, 2008 11:01:16 GMT -6
I read through the green board this morning and noted the comments about people drawing the conclusion that disappointment with the Scullen graduation was being blamed on the SB. While I'm not sure I totally agree with that comment, it is a big stretch to say that Scullen's graduation, good or bad, had anything at all to do with the SB. I can't say that the SB did anything DIRECTLY. However, I would disagree that they had nothing to do at all with it. As I firmly believe, and have stated time and time again, they set the example and the tone of district. The tone and example continually set by the SB about the Scullen attendance area is overtly negative. And that is what we all see publically. We have NO idea what goes on privately. |
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Post by d204mom on Jun 6, 2008 11:05:10 GMT -6
I read through the green board this morning and noted the comments about people drawing the conclusion that disappointment with the Scullen graduation was being blamed on the SB. While I'm not sure I totally agree with that comment, it is a big stretch to say that Scullen's graduation, good or bad, had anything at all to do with the SB. I would conclude that the apathy is caused by a discontent with what's gone on in this district. IMO. I was reading something about U46 yesterday - I guess they hired a new super - and one blogger posted something like - "if you don't like the way things are going - then get involved!" LOL - around here people say - if you don't like the way things are going, either: SHUT UP AND SIT DOWN! or WE DON'T NEED YOU - WE'LL PICK UP THE SLACK! or MOVE! Or in the case of 204thekids - absolute silence that speaks volumes. |
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Post by concerned2 on Jun 6, 2008 11:43:46 GMT -6
I have to say in my posts about the Scullen graduation I was not blaming the SB. The teachers and the administrators of Scullen looked like they would of rather been somewhere else. The teacher's should of had more planned for the rain. It was in the forecast, not like it was a surprise. But by all means I am not blaming this on the SB.
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Post by Arch on Jun 6, 2008 11:47:10 GMT -6
Unfortunately, some will read any criticism, however constructive it may or may not be, as blaming the SB for there not being world peace.
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Post by doctorwho on Jun 6, 2008 11:48:53 GMT -6
I have to say in my posts about the Scullen graduation I was not blaming the SB. The teachers and the administrators of Scullen looked like they would of rather been somewhere else. The teacher's should of had more planned for the rain. It was in the forecast, not like it was a surprise. But by all means I am not blaming this on the SB. I'm sorry, this answer is not allowed - it doesn't fit the MO that has been established for you --  stay with the program - sit down - shut up - move on or move out. The new mantra..... |
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Post by doctorwho on Jun 6, 2008 11:50:41 GMT -6
I read through the green board this morning and noted the comments about people drawing the conclusion that disappointment with the Scullen graduation was being blamed on the SB. While I'm not sure I totally agree with that comment, it is a big stretch to say that Scullen's graduation, good or bad, had anything at all to do with the SB. I would conclude that the apathy is caused by a discontent with what's gone on in this district. IMO. I was reading something about U46 yesterday - I guess they hired a new super - and one blogger posted something like - "if you don't like the way things are going - then get involved!" LOL - around here people say - if you don't like the way things are going, either: SHUT UP AND SIT DOWN! or WE DON'T NEED YOU - WE'LL PICK UP THE SLACK! or MOVE! Or in the case of 204thekids - absolute silence that speaks volumes. there are a few 204tk 'on board' as requested required mandatory - but I know more who are not, than are....I must have worked with a splinter cell |
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Post by specailneedsmom on Jun 6, 2008 12:45:17 GMT -6
IMO, when Dash got here and looked at how the SB tried to communicate with the district, he pulled Metzger aside and said look, this is ridiculous. You are never going to please all the people here (heck, probably not even half of them). Give it up and spend your energies elsewhere. They will hash it out and solve their own problems or leave. And if they leave then we end up with more people who agree with us because hey, aren't we the entitled leaders of this district? We have all the facts, right. We know more than everyone else.
Blame who you want and get caught up in whatever argument you want to be caught up in, but that's where we are and that's why we're where we are, IMO. I know there were other times where communication was not very good, but if you want to look for a point in time when it got really bad, look no further than when we changed leadership.
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Post by Arch on Jun 6, 2008 12:51:44 GMT -6
IMO, when Dash got here and looked at how the SB tried to communicate with the district, he pulled Metzger aside and said look, this is ridiculous. You are never going to please all the people here (heck, probably not even half of them). Give it up and spend your energies elsewhere. They will hash it out and solve their own problems or leave. And if they leave then we end up with more people who agree with us because hey, aren't we the entitled leaders of this district? We have all the facts, right. We know more than everyone else. Blame who you want and get caught up in whatever argument you want to be caught up in, but that's where we are and that's why we're where we are, IMO. I know there were other times where communication was not very good, but if you want to look for a point in time when it got really bad, look no further than when we changed leadership. Great advice to take from a man with a legacy of an unfavorable court ruling against his former district after he left. |
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Post by fence on Jun 6, 2008 13:02:02 GMT -6
Oh, right. Yes I blame the SB for the Scullen 8th grade celebration ceremony. I can't understand why they were not personally overseeing the rained out popcorn stand I don't hear anyone saying the SB is responsible for anything in this thread. The situation is that the district cancelled the graduation ceremony, so schools are doing stuff on their own, and it's not really well coordinated, standard or consistent from one school to the next. That could be something to consider fixing but whatever. I think what happened this week at Scullen was simply another casualty of the situation we're in - the parents at Scullen are a little disinfranchised and there is no leadership outreach going on at present to try and improve the situation. Plus I think the teachers and administrators are kind of in an awkward place, not really knowing what to say, or what not to say, or who to say what to, or whatever. It's just awkward. Its a split middle school that doesn't know how to be a split middle school. This graduating class is getting split up, no one is really talking about it confidently, parents aren't sure what we're supposed to be doing because no one really tells us anything. And top that off with how people are feeling on a more emotional level after the things that have been said, done, and thrown around by others. It's just awkward. So the celebration was awkward. The week was awkward. The kids and the parents and the teachers and the administrators were awkward. The SB didn't create the situation but they're not helping it either. There is a term in leadership and sales called the psychological bridge. They may want to look that up. And SNM, you are right - there has been a shift in philosophy since DD came to town. I think that his business philosophy is "get over it". We all know the type. Can make good forward progress, but to where is the question. That's how Napoleon ended up in Russia for the winter. |
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Post by specailneedsmom on Jun 6, 2008 13:11:45 GMT -6
Oh boy, I will frame the "you are right" part and put it on my refrigerator door so my two teenagers will be sure to see it -- alot. (Only kidding). By hiring someone who will be in and out in three years and has no ownership in the community, all I can say is you get what you pay for.
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Post by Arch on Jun 6, 2008 13:14:36 GMT -6
Oh boy, I will frame the "you are right" part and put it on my refrigerator door so my two teenagers will be sure to see it -- alot. (Only kidding). By hiring someone who will be in and out in three years and has no ownership in the community, all I can say is you get what you pay for. In my business, we call them 'the plunger'. |
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