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Post by Arch on Aug 28, 2007 21:59:31 GMT -6
It's called pass the proper referendum. No need to change a law. Would you support an AC in the ES referendum or not? Only after the 3rd hs is paid for so check back with me in 2029. So you would vote NO unilaterally across the board for ACs until after 2029. Well, at least we know where your position is now. Does that also mean a NO for *ANY* new money needed for anything until after 2029? |
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Post by harry on Aug 28, 2007 22:02:25 GMT -6
Only after the 3rd hs is paid for so check back with me in 2029. So you would vote NO unilaterally across the board for ACs until after 2029? Well, at least we know where your position is now. There will be no voting as I don't see this cause coming to fruition......... Let's start a new thread about how all of our kids wear short sleeve t-shirts to school in winter cause it is so hot and that the teachers open the windows., wasting both enery and our tax dollars.............. This all leads back to 'do it right the 1st time every time" with the SD |
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Post by Arch on Aug 28, 2007 22:10:12 GMT -6
So you would vote NO unilaterally across the board for ACs until after 2029? Well, at least we know where your position is now. There will be no voting as I don't see this cause coming to fruition......... Let's start a new thread about how all of our kids wear short sleeve t-shirts to school in winter cause it is so hot and that the teachers open the windows., wasting both enery and our tax dollars.............. This all leads back to 'do it right the 1st time every time" with the SD This is why the question was "would you support..." instead of "are you supporting..." Let's keep your logic and ask a about a real vote coming up: Will you vote for or against the 2009 operating referendum? Is your hypothetical 'no' to ACs until 2029 unilateral for any physical (building) project? Your answer may very well help someone if they decide to take this issue up in the future... so any sharing you can do about your stance will help since any spending vote always meets with opposition. |
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Post by harry on Aug 28, 2007 22:14:14 GMT -6
There will be no voting as I don't see this cause coming to fruition......... Let's start a new thread about how all of our kids wear short sleeve t-shirts to school in winter cause it is so hot and that the teachers open the windows., wasting both enery and our tax dollars.............. This all leads back to 'do it right the 1st time every time" with the SD This is why the question was "would you support..." instead of "are you supporting..." Let's keep your logic and ask a about a real vote coming up: Will you vote for or against the 2009 operating referendum? Is your hypothetical 'no' to ACs until 2029 unilateral for any physical (building) project? Your answer may very well help someone if they decide to take this issue up in the future... so any sharing you can do about your stance will help since any spending vote always meets with opposition. You are a funny gator............ Nothing I say will neither help nor dissuade a cause that some indy feels so passionate about that they pursue at all costs. |
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Post by Arch on Aug 28, 2007 22:26:20 GMT -6
This is why the question was "would you support..." instead of "are you supporting..." Let's keep your logic and ask a about a real vote coming up: Will you vote for or against the 2009 operating referendum? Is your hypothetical 'no' to ACs until 2029 unilateral for any physical (building) project? Your answer may very well help someone if they decide to take this issue up in the future... so any sharing you can do about your stance will help since any spending vote always meets with opposition. You are a funny gator............ Nothing I say will neither help nor dissuade a cause that some indy feels so passionate about that they pursue at all costs. Sure it will. If you share your point of view, people can attempt to take that into account. If there's a price range you'd be willing to work within, sharing that can allow others to know what criteria they must satisfy to get the support for their issue. So please, just answer. |
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Post by harry on Aug 28, 2007 22:34:03 GMT -6
You are a funny gator............ Nothing I say will neither help nor dissuade a cause that some indy feels so passionate about that they pursue at all costs. Sure it will. If you share your point of view, people can attempt to take that into account. If there's a price range you'd be willing to work within, sharing that can allow others to know what criteria they must satisfy to get the support for their issue. So please, just answer. Surely you have emptied that bottle of Merlot (which, is so passe for 2007 BTW) pm me if you want wines that are hip as of this minute I can't answer on the grounds that paranoia has gripped my thoughts and views and has rendered them null and void If your question is so that the SB can view both the question and the answers for the few who post here, than that is ....................(fill in the blank) Peace and good night |
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Post by driven on Aug 28, 2007 22:38:48 GMT -6
So you would vote NO unilaterally across the board for ACs until after 2029? Well, at least we know where your position is now. There will be no voting as I don't see this cause coming to fruition......... Let's start a new thread about how all of our kids wear short sleeve t-shirts to school in winter cause it is so hot and that the teachers open the windows., wasting both enery and our tax dollars.............. This all leads back to 'do it right the 1st time every time" with the SD "From Kathleen MacNaughton, R.N., Your Guide to Asthma. FREE Newsletter. Sign Up Now! About.com Health's Disease and Condition content is reviewed by our Medical Review Board Asthma Can Get Worse During Summer's Heat Waves If you have been feeling worse and having more asthma symptoms during this summer's record-breaking heat waves, you're not alone. An article published in the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette today describes how the double whammy of high temperatures and humid air can trigger asthma symptoms and asthma attacks. Here are some of the effects heat has: It increases the amount of ozone, nitrous oxide and other pollutants in the air. It also boosts up the mold spores in the air. It increases your body's metabolism and temperature, which uses up energy and increases your need for oxygen. And humidity does the following: It makes it harder for your body to regulate its internal temperature, so that uses up more energy and again increases your need for oxygen. Humidity also increases the pollen in the air. Although there hasn't been much research done on the relationship between heat / humidity and asthma, some experts believe the link is clear. One thing is certain... if you're noticing that your symptoms get worse on those hot, humid days, your best bet is to stay indoors in the air conditioning. " [glow=red,2,300]HARRY, DO NOT USE MY CHILD'S ILLNESS TO FORWARD YOUR WARPED AGENDA! THAT IS LOW...EVEN FOR YOU![/glow] LIKE I SAID...MAYBE I WILL NEED TO KEEP MY CHILD HOME! A simple google search or listening to local news would show the answer. Sarcasm without any research turns into blah, blah, blah. WVHSParent...sarcasm from Harry I understand but from you? Disappointing to say the least. Sears? Seriously? On a different note... Thanks for the support SSM & Arch. I sincerely appreciate it! |
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Post by Arch on Aug 28, 2007 22:40:33 GMT -6
Good night Harry...
I'll leave you this for the morning:
Your statement of: "This all leads back to 'do it right the 1st time every time" with the SD"
has me wondering if you are trying to say that the elementary schools did not cost enough when they were built and you would have supported them if they had ACs at the time of construction. I'm actually trying to pull this back to ESs and ACs, and I admit my own fault for tangeting a bit here.
In your mind, did the Elementary schools that were built without ACs not cost enough money because they had excluded ACs and that (by your statement) wasn't right the first time?
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Post by harry on Aug 28, 2007 22:49:07 GMT -6
There will be no voting as I don't see this cause coming to fruition......... Let's start a new thread about how all of our kids wear short sleeve t-shirts to school in winter cause it is so hot and that the teachers open the windows., wasting both enery and our tax dollars.............. This all leads back to 'do it right the 1st time every time" with the SD "From Kathleen MacNaughton, R.N., Your Guide to Asthma. FREE Newsletter. Sign Up Now! About.com Health's Disease and Condition content is reviewed by our Medical Review Board Asthma Can Get Worse During Summer's Heat Waves If you have been feeling worse and having more asthma symptoms during this summer's record-breaking heat waves, you're not alone. An article published in the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette today describes how the double whammy of high temperatures and humid air can trigger asthma symptoms and asthma attacks. Here are some of the effects heat has: It increases the amount of ozone, nitrous oxide and other pollutants in the air. It also boosts up the mold spores in the air. It increases your body's metabolism and temperature, which uses up energy and increases your need for oxygen. And humidity does the following: It makes it harder for your body to regulate its internal temperature, so that uses up more energy and again increases your need for oxygen. Humidity also increases the pollen in the air. Although there hasn't been much research done on the relationship between heat / humidity and asthma, some experts believe the link is clear. One thing is certain... if you're noticing that your symptoms get worse on those hot, humid days, your best bet is to stay indoors in the air conditioning. " [glow=red,2,300]HARRY, DO NOT USE MY CHILD'S ILLNESS TO FORWARD YOUR WARPED AGENDA! THAT IS LOW...EVEN FOR YOU![/glow] LIKE I SAID...MAYBE I WILL NEED TO KEEP MY CHILD HOME! A simple google search or listening to local news would show the answer. Sarcasm without any research turns into blah, blah, blah. WVHSParent...sarcasm from Harry I understand but from you? Disappointing to say the least. Sears? Seriously? On a different note... Thanks for the support SSM & Arch. I sincerely appreciate it! Driven Your google cited article from the registered nurse indicates, "although there hasn't been much research done on the relationship between heat/ humidity and asthma, some experts believe the link is clear." As I clearly stated, if this were my kid, I would be home schooling them or put them in an AC school to alleviate the problem as there is no price to be put on a child's head. I am truly sorry for your troubles. |
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Post by southsidemom on Aug 28, 2007 22:51:23 GMT -6
We are sitting on goo gobs of tax payer $$ with nothing to build in site. Take the time now to organize the community to make a change and bring AC to every building in Dist 204!!!!!!!!!! Harry, the money we are "sitting" on is to build Metea and it will be built. You cannot take money from a referendum to build a school and use it elsewhere, that is illegal. On the other hand, I agree with you. SSM, make the change you want to happen. Don't talk, do it. M2 has all these glorious years under his belt and has been so kind to explain history since the 1980s.......let's see what he does....or if he even cares. |
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Post by southsidemom on Aug 28, 2007 22:52:44 GMT -6
"From Kathleen MacNaughton, R.N., Your Guide to Asthma. FREE Newsletter. Sign Up Now! About.com Health's Disease and Condition content is reviewed by our Medical Review Board Asthma Can Get Worse During Summer's Heat Waves If you have been feeling worse and having more asthma symptoms during this summer's record-breaking heat waves, you're not alone. An article published in the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette today describes how the double whammy of high temperatures and humid air can trigger asthma symptoms and asthma attacks. Here are some of the effects heat has: It increases the amount of ozone, nitrous oxide and other pollutants in the air. It also boosts up the mold spores in the air. It increases your body's metabolism and temperature, which uses up energy and increases your need for oxygen. And humidity does the following: It makes it harder for your body to regulate its internal temperature, so that uses up more energy and again increases your need for oxygen. Humidity also increases the pollen in the air. Although there hasn't been much research done on the relationship between heat / humidity and asthma, some experts believe the link is clear. One thing is certain... if you're noticing that your symptoms get worse on those hot, humid days, your best bet is to stay indoors in the air conditioning. " [glow=red,2,300]HARRY, DO NOT USE MY CHILD'S ILLNESS TO FORWARD YOUR WARPED AGENDA! THAT IS LOW...EVEN FOR YOU![/glow] LIKE I SAID...MAYBE I WILL NEED TO KEEP MY CHILD HOME! A simple google search or listening to local news would show the answer. Sarcasm without any research turns into blah, blah, blah. WVHSParent...sarcasm from Harry I understand but from you? Disappointing to say the least. Sears? Seriously? On a different note... Thanks for the support SSM & Arch. I sincerely appreciate it! Driven Your google cited article from the registered nurse indicates, "although there hasn't been much research done on the relationship between heat/ humidity and asthma, some experts believe the link is clear." As I clearly stated, if this were my kid, I would be home schooling them or put them in an AC school to alleviate the problem as there is no price to be put on a child's head. I am truly sorry for your troubles. Harry - Go to bed! |
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Post by harry on Aug 28, 2007 22:59:42 GMT -6
Harry, the money we are "sitting" on is to build Metea and it will be built. You cannot take money from a referendum to build a school and use it elsewhere, that is illegal. On the other hand, I agree with you. SSM, make the change you want to happen. Don't talk, do it. M2 has all these glorious years under his belt and has been so kind to explain history since the 1980s.......let's see what he does....or if he even cares. Cares about what?? He was clearly on the board during those glorious years when most of these buildings' referendums were passed WITHOUT consideration of AC !!!!!!!!! BS on the "The Sb was sure that, if we included AC, the ref wouldn't have passed" Did they ask ANYONE if they cared about AC or not before forming the referendum for any of these schools?? Did they pay people for their 'expertise' in this matter as is the current status quo?? Any of you old timers, please chime in any time. |
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Post by bob on Aug 29, 2007 6:18:33 GMT -6
Driven, if you feel you need to keep your kid home because of the heat, you should.
One side of me says if kids in the 40s,50s,60,70s,80s survived going to school when it was hot out back then, the kids today will to.
Plus the cost is a negative factor.
How many days do would the SD actually need the AC? Maybe 3-4 weeks?
The other side says if the kids can be more attentive and learn more on those hot days with AC. It might be worth the cost.
Right now I am against putting AC in all the buildings.
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Post by EagleDad on Aug 29, 2007 6:51:12 GMT -6
I would not support putting AC in schools either. It is an issue, but in the grand scheme has to be weighed and prioritized with the other things facing our district.
I do not support our board or board members spending significant time on the issue. It is best left to those concerned parents researching it and providing a proposed solution in a committee.
First things first.
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Post by gatormom on Aug 29, 2007 6:51:34 GMT -6
Harry, the money we are "sitting" on is to build Metea and it will be built. You cannot take money from a referendum to build a school and use it elsewhere, that is illegal. On the other hand, I agree with you. SSM, make the change you want to happen. Don't talk, do it. M2 has all these glorious years under his belt and has been so kind to explain history since the 1980s.......let's see what he does....or if he even cares. What makes you think he wouldn't care? He is a parent of an ES student who is sitting in the same heat as the rest of our ES children. I would suggest you contact M2, ask him what you can do to remedy this situation. |
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