Temperature control in our elementary schools

[bob]

That money is sitting somewhere earning interest, so why can't the interest be used for other buildings? Voters did not approve purchasing the 25 acres but the SD did with monies left over from something else.

SSM, again, I believe what you are proposing is illegal. From my understanding, a SD cannot take money and interest from a bond say specific from a referendum and use it for another purpose.


If I recall correctly, the money for the 25 acres didn't come from referendum money.

SSM, why don't you propose a referendum for AC and let the people vote on it. That is the best way.

[doctorwho]

lacy said:

And how much is the BB land going to cost anyway? Where is that money coming from if it's more than what the referendum provided for?

I keep wondering, how many more times can the same question be asked ? It has already been explained ad infinitum, that there was x amount of money. There was room build into the $124 for more than $257K but not unlimited. The SD does have the interest earned on those monies also. But, if the cost of the new school outstrips all of that - then an alternate plan has to be found.

Why ask how much BB is gong to cost again when you have been following this as much as anyone else, and unless you have a crystal ball that no one else has - we won't know that for a few more weeks.

Be patient - you will have the definitive answer soon.

Then we can move on to another line of discussion to see if BB and MV or both can be derailed. At least the discussion will then be fresh.

[doctorwho]

bob said:

That money is sitting somewhere earning interest, so why can't the interest be used for other buildings? Voters did not approve purchasing the 25 acres but the SD did with monies left over from something else.

SSM, again, I believe what you are proposing is illegal. From my understanding, a SD cannot take money and interest from a bond say specific from a referendum and use it for another purpose.


If I recall correctly, the money for the 25 acres didn't come from referendum money.

SSM, why don't you propose a referendum for AC and let the people vote on it. That is the best way.

It is really the only way -- and again I would vote for it - but I really do not think that is the majority at this time....

[bob]

And if it is too much then go see if Macom would be remove the water, fill in the ditch and sell the land. The SD couldn't start building there until Spring anyways.

[lacy]

doctorwho said:

lacy said:

And how much is the BB land going to cost anyway? Where is that money coming from if it's more than what the referendum provided for?

I keep wondering, how many more times can the same question be asked ? It has already been explained ad infinitum, that there was x amount of money. There was room build into the $124 for more than $257K but not unlimited. The SD does have the interest earned on those monies also. But, if the cost of the new school outstrips all of that - then an alternate plan has to be found.

Why ask how much BB is gong to cost again when you have been following this as much as anyone else, and unless you have a crystal ball that no one else has - we won't know that for a few more weeks.

Be patient - you will have the definitive answer soon.

Then we can move on to another line of discussion to see if BB and MV or both can be derailed. At least the discussion will then be fresh.

I'll dumb this down.

Any "excess" money will probably be needed for MVHS. So it can't be spent on anything else - at least not right now.

The district's and BB's valuation of the land are grossly different. We'll need to see if we can even afford BB.

[doctorwho]

lacy said:

doctorwho said:

I keep wondering, how many more times can the same question be asked ? It has already been explained ad infinitum, that there was x amount of money. There was room build into the $124 for more than $257K but not unlimited. The SD does have the interest earned on those monies also. But, if the cost of the new school outstrips all of that - then an alternate plan has to be found.

Why ask how much BB is gong to cost again when you have been following this as much as anyone else, and unless you have a crystal ball that no one else has - we won't know that for a few more weeks.

Be patient - you will have the definitive answer soon.

Then we can move on to another line of discussion to see if BB and MV or both can be derailed. At least the discussion will then be fresh.

I'll dumb this down.

Any "excess" money will probably be needed for MVHS. So it can't be spent on anything else - at least not right now.

The district's and BB's valuation of the land are grossly different. We'll need to see if we can even afford BB.

Trust me - you surely don't need to dumb down anything for me or anyone else here -- what you just asked ( how much will BB cost) has been stated 1000 different ways and answered over and over again to the best of anyones knowledge - and no one will know for sure for a few more weeks.

btw - I agree nothing can be spent from those monies until we have the answer on the land. Then we can get the construction estimates for expediting. Then and only then can it be determined what funds are left.

(but either way $15M for A/C should at least go to a public forum before being spent - regardless of what side of that issue one is on IMHO )

Where I am confused was what change was expected from yesterday or the day before on the BB cost ?

[lacy]

I'm sorry you're still confused.

I'll try to explain. The discussion in THIS thread was should we spend funds earmarked for MVHS on A/C. My point is that BB may in fact cost considerably more than what was planned for.

Hope that helps.

[bob]

I was wrong about the 25 acres. The money came from the 01 referendum designated for land acquisition.

[warriorpride]

lacy said:

I'm sorry you're still confused.

I'll try to explain. The discussion in THIS thread was should we spend funds earmarked for MVHS on A/C. My point is that BB may in fact cost considerably more than what was planned for.

Hope that helps.

I'd expect that ANYONE that casually suggests spending $15M for ANYTHING would be met with some resistance/hesitance in any SD, regardless of the current building or land acquistion plans. Funny how the topics always veer off course into some people's agenda, though - the archives speak for themselves. I'd expect this thread to be closed soon, as per usual.

[doctorwho]

lacy said:

I'm sorry you're still confused.

I'll try to explain. The discussion in THIS thread was should we spend funds earmarked for MVHS on A/C. My point is that BB may in fact cost considerably more than what was planned for.

Hope that helps.

And there is a threshold where the money will not be spent if it exceeds what was planned for - I am not confused, I know exactly what you are saying....the $ for the school will not infringe on what could have/would have been A/C even if the voters did stand up and agree they want the A/C.

MVHS will not take every last nickel out of the coffers and leave the SD bankrupt for funds as has been suggested by some...

[doctorwho]

warriorpride said:

lacy said:

I'm sorry you're still confused.

I'll try to explain. The discussion in THIS thread was should we spend funds earmarked for MVHS on A/C. My point is that BB may in fact cost considerably more than what was planned for.

Hope that helps.

I'd expect that ANYONE that casually suggests spending $15M for ANYTHING would be met with some resistance/hesitance in any SD, regardless of the current building or land acquistion plans. Funny how the topics always veer off course into some people's agenda, though - the archives speak for themselves. I'd expect this thread to be closed soon, as per usual.

Exactly -- $15M for A/C and MVHS are not intermingled, nor should they be in any way,shape or form.

[EagleDad]

lacy said:

I'll dumb this down.

Any "excess" money will probably be needed for MVHS. So it can't be spent on anything else - at least not right now.

The district's and BB's valuation of the land are grossly different. We'll need to see if we can even afford BB.

So the answer is blow it all on firvolous spending like 15 million for A/C without asking the taxpayers?

You're right, that is dumb.

[momto4]

ipsdweb.ipsd.org/News.aspx?id=15669

Action Taken in Response to Warm Temperatures
Reported by [e-mail] on 8/31/07
This past week, the district took the following steps in response to the warm temperatures in elementary schools:

Regarding facilities, we have done the following:
- Controlled attic fans are on 24-7
- Exhaust fans are on 24-7
- Dehumidifiers are no longer running to decrease temperatures
- Custodians have been directed to close all blinds and leave them closed

Principals have been directed to do the following:
- Rotate students through air-conditioned areas
- Use fans
- Encourage water and ice pop breaks
- Bring classes from the second floor downstairs as needed

Kathryn Birkett
Deputy Superintendent
Indian Prairie School District 204

[southsidemom]

momto4 said:

ipsdweb.ipsd.org/News.aspx?id=15669


Principals have been directed to do the following:
- Rotate students through air-conditioned areas
- Use fans
- Encourage water and ice pop breaks
- Bring classes from the second floor downstairs as needed

Kathryn Birkett
Deputy Superintendent
Indian Prairie School District 204

SD with state of the art NVHS and we must resort to this direction to principals for our kids. How embarrassing. The last bullet is truly classic - let us just disrupt our school day by taking kids for a "cool down walk".

[doctorwho]

southsidemom said:

momto4 said:

ipsdweb.ipsd.org/News.aspx?id=15669


Principals have been directed to do the following:
- Rotate students through air-conditioned areas
- Use fans
- Encourage water and ice pop breaks
- Bring classes from the second floor downstairs as needed

Kathryn Birkett
Deputy Superintendent
Indian Prairie School District 204

SD with state of the art NVHS and we must resort to this direction to principals for our kids. How embarrassing. The last bullet is truly classic - let us just disrupt our school day by taking kids for a "cool down walk".

I believe the note was sent to ensure as well as show consistency across all schools ( with the Halloween controversy going on). But I am sure Kathy would love your suggestions - please send them to her.