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Post by researching on Apr 8, 2009 7:14:03 GMT -6
Rasmus, Desart, Vickers... I get. But Piehl? Seriously? Not just that but she was the second highest vote getter? I cannot wrap my mind around that.
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Post by researching on Apr 8, 2009 7:23:13 GMT -6
The high northern voter turnout was due to fear tactics...all of those emails flying around stating that boundaries might change or that MVHS might not go through if the "wrong" people were elected... blah blah blah... How sad it that! and yet not surprising at all. I too was once put into a frenzie to pass a referendum and get certain SB members elected due to fear tactics. Its a viscious cycle that needs to stop. Help us all if the north is also convinced come referendum time that MVHS cannot survive without an operating referendum....that will certainly be the game plan...play on people's fears. Have already seen emails there (you'd recognize names) to that effect - if the referendum fails the school would remain incomplete if it had to - expect one for about $20M - maybe more now that they have been 'entitled' Oh I am sure they are all breaking their arms to pat themselves on the back. Quite honestly, that's their perogative. They voted. I am very disappointed with the southern portion of the district. If you don't vote, don't complain. IMO I am very grateful to see CV in the top four. Maybe she will be the voice of reason and set the example for Rasmus and DeSart. Add that to CB and maybe, just maybe, all is not lost. Piehl? She needs to do A LOT to prove she is anything other than M2's puppet. |
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Post by Arch on Apr 8, 2009 7:25:55 GMT -6
Piehl? She needs to do A LOT to prove she is anything other than M2's puppet. ...doesn't have to 'prove' anything... It wasn't on the ballot  |
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Post by doctorwho on Apr 8, 2009 7:33:07 GMT -6
Rasmus, Desart, Vickers... I get. But Piehl? Seriously? Not just that but she was the second highest vote getter? I cannot wrap my mind around that. It's actually very easy ( but very painful ) - who were the only 2 candidates not to call for M2 resignation ? Who were the top 2 vote getters...do the math. |
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Post by sam2 on Apr 8, 2009 7:40:33 GMT -6
I think some will hold the opinion that the board is still revolting. Amen, Arch. With respect to someone's subsequent posting that the operating referendum will pander to fear about MVHS, I reluctantly point out that it was made clear during the referenda for the 3rd HS that an operating referendum would be required. For the record, I was opposed to the 3rd HS, regardless of location, and I am no fan of our SB, but they were upfront about the operating referendum from the outset. |
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Post by doctorwho on Apr 8, 2009 7:48:02 GMT -6
I think some will hold the opinion that the board is still revolting. Amen, Arch. With respect to someone's subsequent posting that the operating referendum will pander to fear about MVHS, I reluctantly point out that it was made clear during the referenda for the 3rd HS that an operating referendum would be required. For the record, I was opposed to the 3rd HS, regardless of location, and I am no fan of our SB, but they were upfront about the operating referendum from the outset. agreed - an operating referendum for approx $9M was made clear - however the referendum coming will be for more than operations of the new HS also remember however that the new school was not supposed to cost $150M either. |
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Post by Arch on Apr 8, 2009 7:59:15 GMT -6
I love how the fear of hitting the taxpayers in the wallet was played to vote against the union endorsed candidates... but the taxpayers are going to get nailed in the wallet even bigger now with the outcome.
I hope everyone has an overstuffed piggy bank for that rainy day because it started to sprinkle last night.
Enjoy.
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Post by treehugger on Apr 8, 2009 8:03:13 GMT -6
Nope REW, this election is proof positive that Metzger is as strong as ever. as far as who becomes Board Pres., my guess would be CB. At least he is a bonafide human and not a clone. But I have been sadly disappointed lately, so who knows?
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Post by doctorwho on Apr 8, 2009 8:17:01 GMT -6
Nope REW, this election is proof positive that Metzger is as strong as ever. as far as who becomes Board Pres., my guess would be CB. At least he is a bonafide human and not a clone. But I have been sadly disappointed lately, so who knows? and comments like this on one on facebook directed @ 204 private school parents and those not aligned with the new Sb candidates shows 'the healing has begun ' "Rich snobby people...oh, did I say that out-loud?'" Yep, this is who I want to go to school with... |
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Post by anteater on Apr 8, 2009 8:17:59 GMT -6
I got worried when I stopped at my polling place in the "deep south" last night. The judges said turnout had been extremely light, and I could also tell by the small stack of registration cards the one judge had for people who had voted. Agree that CB will probably be elected president, though you don't have to be president to exert control. That leaves AT and CP to divide up the VP and secretary offices. I tend to disagree with Arch on what exactly was on the ballot - MM was definitely an undercurrent in this race. I'm afraid that the new people will find that they have limited access to information and little input up front - particularly if they show a tendency to rock the boat - similar to how they have worked to marginalize CV.
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Post by slp on Apr 8, 2009 10:08:16 GMT -6
I think some will hold the opinion that the board is still revolting. Amen, Arch. With respect to someone's subsequent posting that the operating referendum will pander to fear about MVHS, I reluctantly point out that it was made clear during the referenda for the 3rd HS that an operating referendum would be required. For the record, I was opposed to the 3rd HS, regardless of location, and I am no fan of our SB, but they were upfront about the operating referendum from the outset. "it was made clear"....how so? Do you mean it was written in mass communication fliers and emails regarding the referendum? Just like the site was BB? or was it on the ballot? |
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Post by researching on Apr 8, 2009 10:18:40 GMT -6
Nope REW, this election is proof positive that Metzger is as strong as ever. as far as who becomes Board Pres., my guess would be CB. At least he is a bonafide human and not a clone. But I have been sadly disappointed lately, so who knows? and comments like this on one on facebook directed @ 204 private school parents and those not aligned with the new Sb candidates shows 'the healing has begun ' "Rich snobby people...oh, did I say that out-loud?'" Yep, this is who I want to go to school with... Oh that just pi**es me off!  Who are the snobs here? The people who think it is intolerable that our SB president calls the parent of an assaulted child and MF'er, who worry about our district's future, and who want the safety and well being of ALL of the children and staff of this district to come FIRST? Or is it the people who patronize us all by saying what a great school WV is but are busting their arses to make sure they are out of there? The same people who don't care the hazards the location presents as long as they get their expensive, flashy new school? Maybe snob isn't the best word. Maybe shallow would fit better. This mentality isn't uncommon. It is in every facet of life. God help us all. |
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Post by treehugger on Apr 8, 2009 12:00:30 GMT -6
Once the boundary card was played, it was played. The fear of boundary changes apparently impacted many voters. It didn't have to be true, it just had to be played. That's #1. #2, I think the turnout in Will County was light because, if you weren't in an affected area like WE or TG, you did not care one way or the other. My guess would be that Ashbury, High Meadows, River Run, had very light turn out because their situation was not impacted. Just my opinion. I would have to see the results by subdivision to see if this panned out.
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Post by researching on Apr 8, 2009 13:45:39 GMT -6
Once the boundary card was played, it was played. The fear of boundary changes apparently impacted many voters. It didn't have to be true, it just had to be played. That's #1. #2, I think the turnout in Will County was light because, if you weren't in an affected area like WE or TG, you did not care one way or the other. My guess would be that Ashbury, High Meadows, River Run, had very light turn out because their situation was not impacted. Just my opinion. I would have to see the results by subdivision to see if this panned out. I completely agree. That being said, when taxes go up, when we are approached for yet another referendum, when our district goes into major debt, when the boundaries are yet again redrawn to pull more of the NV area into WV and more from WV into MV in an effort to compensate for poorly predicted enrollment numbers, and if any location driven complications arise for MV, I do not want to hear ANY whining from the areas with low voter turnout. It is what it is. I seriously hope that I am wrong. Sadly, I have been proven right in every prediction and with every vote cast involving IPSD 204 for the last 8 years.  By HS boundaries, how does the area representation on the SB go? Is this correct? Vickers - WV Metzger - WV Piehl - MV Rasmus - MV Bradshaw - MV Tyle - NV DeSart - NV If this is correct, I think it is an interesting dynamic. The lowest enrollment HS has the most representation. |
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Post by sashimi on Apr 8, 2009 13:54:35 GMT -6
I want to apologize to the good folks in Tallgrass. I was critical of the apathy in the South in a previous post (suggested that we got what we deserved because we did not care enough to vote). Tallgrass had the highest D204 turnout in Will County (at 40 plus percent of the registered voters).
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Who are the snobs here? The people who think it is intolerable that our SB president calls the parent of an assaulted child and MF'er, who worry about our district's future, and who want the safety and well being of ALL of the children and staff of this district to come FIRST? Or is it the people who patronize us all by saying what a great school WV is but are busting their arses to make sure they are out of there? The same people who don't care the hazards the location presents as long as they get their expensive, flashy new school?