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Post by refbasics on Sept 29, 2009 13:47:53 GMT -6
From the GREEN BLOG gatordog and here are some things that I think: 1. for a long long time in this school district (more than dozen years) our three HS will be plenty full of students. 2. at no time within a dozen years or more will a reasonable 204 resident look at HS enrollments and say "gee, this HS is so small we should go back to two HS's instead of three." 3. families moving into the district and buying homes will know they will be sending their children to HSs that are of similar sizes to those in neighboring communities (Plainfield, Oswego, Naperville, other Upstate 8 schools). They wont be discouraged by megaschools. 4. the boundaries (surprisingly, perhaps) hold up well into the future with low probability of any future boundary changes needed. We all know how unsettling and disruptive boundary changes are....we do families and kids and neighborhoods much good by minimizing these. 5. We are well positioned to accomodate a resumption of housing growth, when it occurs. Real estate people say that Ashwood is slated to be about a White Eagle size subdivision. So that would bring in about an ES worth of students into the SD. When, nobody knows. My guess (and I am sure this is hope of the propery owners , real estate agents hoe, tradesmen, local business owners,etc) is that it will be sometime before never! Other than that, I make no demographic predictions. I am just directly looking at the what is on hand today, current enrollments. --------------------------- has gatordog ever been to ashwood?? why does he think people will pay $650K+ (the houses used to be $800K a couple years ago) to be that close to the train tracks.. and the trains are noisier now that they are going faster then before... many lots that are left(near peterson school)- their backyards back up to the train tracks.  |
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Post by Arch on Sept 29, 2009 14:00:56 GMT -6
It's called talking out of one's backside. The entire landscape has changed. It's not 2004 anymore.
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Post by southsidesignmaker on Sept 29, 2009 21:58:10 GMT -6
The subdivision in question does suffer from very low sales volume. Maybe it is time to change some zoning in that "neck of the woods" and put some affordable housing in. Say something an old signmaker might be able to afford in 10-12 years for around $275K. Not much interested in a big lawn, and trains won't be a problem as I will just turn down the hearing aids.
Stagger the housing with the most affordable being near the tracks and the most expensive being the 25 that are presently standing. Make sure there is a good buffer though as there should be a minimal amount of interaction between the various classes.
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Post by doctorwho on Sept 29, 2009 22:50:18 GMT -6
The subdivision in question does suffer from very low sales volume. Maybe it is time to change some zoning in that "neck of the woods" and put some affordable housing in. Say something an old signmaker might be able to afford in 10-12 years for around $275K. Not much interested in a big lawn, and trains won't be a problem as I will just turn down the hearing aids. Stagger the housing with the most affordable being near the tracks and the most expensive being the 25 that are presently standing. Make sure there is a good buffer though as there should be a minimal amount of interaction between the various classes. issue is the 204 taxes on that $275 abode will kill you by then -  ( of course we will have built our 5th high school because someone heard 1000 student high schools are even better - people will flock here for them....  ) and if one of those high schools is even further from May Watts ( not sure that is even possible unless we annex some land somewhere in Kendall County ) - we will be sent there and told by people who live 3 minutes from their HS how the boundaries really make sense anyway, a few hours a day on the bus is good for kids, and then send me a mapquest that would get my former neighbors there in 4 minutes. I say former neighbors because as soon as June 2012 comes, I am the hell out of here...someone else can pay for the spending spree |
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Post by Arch on Sept 29, 2009 23:06:32 GMT -6
Interesting how these people flocking to the area and homes flipping happen everywhere but here. House across the street and 2 down has had no one seriously looking at it since it went on the market in July and it's a stone throw from the ES, 1 house away from the MS bus stop and also the stop to the shiny new high school that everyone is flocking to the area for...
You're right Doc.. at this rate we'll need another HS in the Quad Cities.
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Post by doctorwho on Sept 30, 2009 7:13:32 GMT -6
Interesting how these people flocking to the area and homes flipping happen everywhere but here. House across the street and 2 down has had no one seriously looking at it since it went on the market in July and it's a stone throw from the ES, 1 house away from the MS bus stop and also the stop to the shiny new high school that everyone is flocking to the area for... You're right Doc.. at this rate we'll need another HS in the Quad Cities. Yep, NIU would be proud of some of the recent calcs being done- I am not sure we have enough capacity now  my direct neighborhood which realtors had waiting lists for before had 5 houses for sale for almost a year. 1 on my block went to empty nesters moving down from larger home,. the other also has no children , and 3 went to renters ( eventually) - the house 2 doors down that went to renters ( moved here from Michigan) - 3 kids but vefore anyone starts counting them in the oodles of kids moving in - they are going to All Saints. THe other 2 renters I do not know the make up of - but again renters - likely not long term. |
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Post by Arch on Sept 30, 2009 7:22:18 GMT -6
Oh hey, I also read the 2006 referendum made our taxes go down. That's some interesting magic... Money for nothing. Why don't we take on even more debt and eventually our taxes may drop to zero. That should solve everyone's problems.
I guess as long as we keep it hush hush hush that the bond and interest payments are going to jump 50-66% in 2014 we can pretend that a shiny new high school didn't cost us anything or better yet, cost us LESS than not having a new school.
This sort of shell game, folks, is one of the larger contributing reasons why the economy is in the crapper.
Give ourselves the luxury items now and make someone else pay for it later, and top it off with a layer of arrogant "We did you a favor" attitude when questioned about why the numbers don't add up. Talk about community responsibility.
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Post by refbasics on Sept 30, 2009 13:52:59 GMT -6
The subdivision in question does suffer from very low sales volume. Maybe it is time to change some zoning in that "neck of the woods" and put some affordable housing in. Say something an old signmaker might be able to afford in 10-12 years for around $275K. Not much interested in a big lawn, and trains won't be a problem as I will just turn down the hearing aids. Stagger the housing with the most affordable being near the tracks and the most expensive being the 25 that are presently standing. Make sure there is a good buffer though as there should be a minimal amount of interaction between the various classes. ------------------------ do you get out much? there's a place called CARILLON right up 248 about 1 mile north of ashwood... it's got plenty of housing for sale right in that price range... and farther away from the train tracks so you don't have to turn your hearing aid down! and you must have seen the many townhomes north of 95th right on 59? and across from the library on 95th? i think there is plenty already. it seems people have forgotten that north of ashwood was supposed to be townhomes(now it's park district land); and just north of 103, there was zoning passed for 40 some 'upscale' homes(kobler builders, i think)... just grass and fields now. |
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Post by doctorwho on Sept 30, 2009 14:05:57 GMT -6
The subdivision in question does suffer from very low sales volume. Maybe it is time to change some zoning in that "neck of the woods" and put some affordable housing in. Say something an old signmaker might be able to afford in 10-12 years for around $275K. Not much interested in a big lawn, and trains won't be a problem as I will just turn down the hearing aids. Stagger the housing with the most affordable being near the tracks and the most expensive being the 25 that are presently standing. Make sure there is a good buffer though as there should be a minimal amount of interaction between the various classes. ------------------------ do you get out much? there's a place called CARILLON right up 248 about 1 mile north of ashwood... it's got plenty of housing for sale right in that price range... and farther away from the train tracks so you don't have to turn your hearing aid down! and you must have seen the many townhomes north of 95th right on 59? and across from the library on 95th? i think there is plenty already. it seems people have forgotten that north of ashwood was supposed to be townhomes(now it's park district land); and just north of 103, there was zoning passed for 40 some 'upscale' homes(kobler builders, i think)... just grass and fields now. grass and fields - you must be mistaken...I'm reading that there is a whole herd of kids coming- a whole ES worth ( Maybe by wagon train or something why they're not quite here yet) - and while they are all coming -- no truckers are going to use the Eola off ramp by 204 kids driving to MVHS. I've never seen a group rally around the 'mothership' like this - it must have some supernatural power. --- within a few years most rational people here will see it for the boondoggle that it is...and as taxes skyrocket out of sight by 2014- there will be even more park land is my guess. SSSM - it will be a buyers market around here for a long time to come- you'll have lots to choose from should you so desire. |
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