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Post by macrockett on Nov 11, 2009 13:48:38 GMT -6
ipsdweb.ipsd.org/Documents/0910/0910EnrollmentReport.pdfThe District's own document on current enrollment. Peak enrollment hasn't changed from the docs available in March 2008 before the District decided to go forward with the third HS. In my opinion, our school board cost you, the taxpayer of D204, approximately $95 million in the form of extra capacity that was never needed nor will ever be fully utilized (at the cost of $50000 per seat. In addition, based on current trends, enrollment is actually falling faster than previous projections. Look at k-3 versus 4-10 (which is where the bubble is). We build a 50+ year 3000 seat high school to accommodate a bubble of approximately a few hundred students max during the next 5-8 years. Subsequent to that period, we will experience a fairly rapid decline. In a statistically valid survey, you the residents of D204 said you favored adding on to existing buildings to meet our capacity needs. You were ignored and now you are paying for it. Modify to add other FY2010 Enrollment Docs to put in one place: winsome.cnchost.com/MAC/Enrollment9_2_2009.pdfwinsome.cnchost.com/MAC/HS_EnrollmentNumberThroughFY2017.pdfwinsome.cnchost.com/MAC/0910EnrollmentReport.pdf
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Post by blankcheck on Nov 12, 2009 10:50:49 GMT -6
Does anyone remember what the 100% capasity numbers for the elementary schools are? I know we don't operate at 100%, but I know that Patterson & Springbrook were built to house 850 students. That means Patterson operates at 81% capasity and Springbrook at about 95%. If Peterson is another 850 seat school, it operates at 52% capasity.
I would be interested to see what the other schools are. Maybe as a cost saving
measure, it may be wise to look at consolidating schools.
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Post by doctorwho on Nov 12, 2009 11:08:14 GMT -6
 Does anyone remember what the 100% capasity numbers for the elementary schools are? I know we don't operate at 100%, but I know that Patterson & Springbrook were built to house 850 students. That means Patterson operates at 81% capasity and Springbrook at about 95%. If Peterson is another 850 seat school, it operates at 52% capasity. I would be interested to see what the other schools are. Maybe as a cost saving measure, it may be wise to look at consolidating schools. let me dig thru the archives as they are in there - also look @ Owen ( never running about 60 something %) and now May watts - once a 900 student school - now running low also ( but you know those housing patterns never change ) consolidation should absolutely be a factor - in fact I tongue in cheek recommended it for Watts - that way they can call this area the 'area without a school)- travel 5-6 miles for MS and 6-7 miles for HS - might as well remove the ES also and finish us off --
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Post by blankcheck on Nov 12, 2009 11:12:32 GMT -6
I'm wrong. Patterson with all the additions has a 950 100% capasity therefore, it operates only at 73% capasity. I forgot that we have several elementary schools at 950. Is Springbrook another one? If that is the case, it operates at 85%.
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Post by blankcheck on Nov 12, 2009 11:25:25 GMT -6
Watts 850 capasity, 72%
Owen 850 capasity, 70%
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Post by doctorwho on Nov 12, 2009 11:27:12 GMT -6
Watts 850 capasity, 72% Owen 850 capasity, 70% and remember Watts has 4-5 satellites now feeding to keep it at this number.....yet arguments still come that attendance nevers changes from an area - |
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Post by doctorwho on Nov 12, 2009 11:31:04 GMT -6
Watts 850 capasity, 72% Owen 850 capasity, 70% and Owen added a bnuch last year from Springbrook ? Builta ? - to get to this number -- was hovering in the 50%'s for quite a while Another building one has to question building- actually should have been built as a MS IMHO -- save Watts from travelling once again almost as far north as one can go to go to MS -- and areas like Brighton Ridge attended Watts when I moved here. there's a future plan -- make Owen a MS - shift ES boundaries and close one HS ( return Fischer to Fresh Campus) - don't think closing a HS in the future has never been discussed- it has. |
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Post by doctorwho on Nov 12, 2009 12:49:45 GMT -6
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INDIAN PRAIRIE SCHOOL DISTRICT 204 BUILDING CAPACITIES
SCHOOL
100% CAPACITY
90% CAPACITY
Brookdale
650
585
Brooks
850
765
Builta
850
765
Clow
650
585
Cowlishaw
850
765
Fry
950
855
Georgetown
700
630
Gombert
650
585
Graham
850
765
Kendall
850
765
Longwood
475
427.5
McCarty
850
765
Owen
850
765
Patterson
950
855
Peterson
850
765
Spring Brook
950
855
Steck
850
765
Watts
850
765
Welch
950
855
White Eagle
850
765
Young
850
765
TOTAL ELEMENTARY
17125
15412.5
Crone
1200
1080
Fischer
1200
1080
Granger
1200
1080
Gregory
1100
990
Hill
1100
990
Scullen
1200
1080
Still
1200
1080
TOTAL MIDDLE
8200
7380
Neuqua Valley
3000
2700
Neuqua Valley - Gold
1200
1080
Waubonsie Valley
3000
2700
Metea Valley
3000
2700
Frontier
600
540
TOTAL HIGH
10800
9720
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Post by doctorwho on Nov 12, 2009 12:51:03 GMT -6
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Here are SD #'s----------------- INDIAN PRAIRIE SCHOOL DISTRICT 204 BUILDING CAPACITIES SCHOOL 100% CAPACITY 90% CAPACITY Brookdale 650 585 Brooks 850 765 Builta 850 765 Clow 650 585 Cowlishaw 850 765 Fry 950 855 Georgetown 700 630 Gombert 650 585 Graham 850 765 Kendall 850 765 Longwood 475 427.5 McCarty 850 765 Owen 850 765 Patterson 950 855 Peterson 850 765 Spring Brook 950 855 Steck 850 765 Watts 850 765 Welch 950 855 White Eagle 850 765 Young 850 765 TOTAL ELEMENTARY 17125 15412.5 Crone 1200 1080 Fischer 1200 1080 Granger 1200 1080 Gregory 1100 990 Hill 1100 990 Scullen 1200 1080 Still 1200 1080 TOTAL MIDDLE 8200 7380 Neuqua Valley 3000 2700 Neuqua Valley - Gold 1200 1080 Waubonsie Valley 3000 2700 Metea Valley 3000 2700 Frontier 600 540 TOTAL HIGH 10800 9720 |
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Post by macrockett on Nov 12, 2009 13:35:46 GMT -6
Does anyone remember what the 100% capasity numbers for the elementary schools are? I know we don't operate at 100%, but I know that Patterson & Springbrook were built to house 850 students. That means Patterson operates at 81% capasity and Springbrook at about 95%. If Peterson is another 850 seat school, it operates at 52% capasity. I would be interested to see what the other schools are. Maybe as a cost saving measure, it may be wise to look at consolidating schools. blankcheck, districts doc on 100% capacity for all schools. winsome.cnchost.com/MAC/buildingcapacity2008.pdfRemember at the HS level there are 600 seats at Frontier This doc shows current excess capacity: winsome.cnchost.com/MAC/Enrollment9_2_2009.pdfHere is a capacity analysis for every year from present to 2017, using the Districts own numbers. Note it does not include the Frontier 600, which takes HS capacity to 9000: winsome.cnchost.com/MAC/HS_EnrollmentNumberThroughFY2017.pdf |
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Post by macrockett on Nov 12, 2009 13:41:03 GMT -6
We know that Scullen, with a capacity of 1200, and two mobiles, operated at over 1400 kids for around 3-4 years that I am aware of. Yet everyone managed to get the job done. Just to show an extreme case. Many of the current schools aren't even close to 100%, let alone way over, as the last doc above shows.
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