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Post by macrockett on Feb 11, 2010 18:18:10 GMT -6
Notice that Mark Metzger will probably not have the balls to remind us that the school board is a Republic form of governance and those elected officials have the authority and responsibility to decide important things for us like school sites and the spending of money (budget). "republic" form of government ... Reporter, "Mr. Metzger, could you please characterize what you mean by the "republic" form of government?" Mr. Metzger, "Certainly, the people speak through their elected officials. Their voice is their vote." "To me, that means when I see them in at Board meetings, they should sit down and shut up!" "They had their say...now I'll do the talkin!" "They'll get to talk again in 4 year. What more do they want?"
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Post by casey on Feb 11, 2010 19:55:11 GMT -6
You forgot to add "MFer!" You know, to blow holes through what all those "MFers are saying!"
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Post by friend on Feb 11, 2010 21:36:50 GMT -6
Does anybody know the current enrollment numbers at each of the three high schools?
When MV finally has juniors and seniors what is the projected enrollment for MV then? If memory serves me correct, won't WV still be considered over crowded when MV has juniors and seniors?
IF, and I hate to think that it could even happen, that WV would close and consolidate with MV, would'nt there be another boundary review to balance the enrollment between two high schools?
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Post by doctorwho on Feb 11, 2010 21:56:53 GMT -6
Does anybody know the current enrollment numbers at each of the three high schools? When MV finally has juniors and seniors what is the projected enrollment for MV then? If memory serves me correct, won't WV still be considered over crowded when MV has juniors and seniors? IF, and I hate to think that it could even happen, that WV would close and consolidate with MV, would'nt there be another boundary review to balance the enrollment between two high schools? I will get those numbers for start of this semester... As for future boundary changes - they might occur with or without WVHS closure, the SB has said as much to be true. With the closure of WVHS however you're correct in there would be major changes. The scary thing is we can use the attendance figures and make an educated guess at where they would be drawn, but this SB has already shown that 'common sense' boundaries can't be forecasted anyway, if so my area would not be spending close to 2 hours a day on the bus. The irony would be if the boundaries ended up back at where the NV-WV boundaries were supposed to be until many other agendas got in the way--- west of 59 one school , east of 59 Neuqua. It was the change from these boundaries that sent JC on a mission to eventually get her areas Neuqua.... which she accomplished before she left office Yep, she was trying to get Brookdale out of Waubonsie long before the night of the orange shirts.. they believed they were going to Neuqua when it opened ( they paid for it you know )
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Post by macrockett on Feb 11, 2010 22:21:40 GMT -6
You forgot to add "MFer!" You know, to blow holes through what all those "MFers are saying!" LOL, I stand corrected Casey.
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Post by macrockett on Feb 11, 2010 22:36:32 GMT -6
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Post by doctorwho on Feb 11, 2010 22:44:42 GMT -6
Does anybody know the current enrollment numbers at each of the three high schools? When MV finally has juniors and seniors what is the projected enrollment for MV then? If memory serves me correct, won't WV still be considered over crowded when MV has juniors and seniors? IF, and I hate to think that it could even happen, that WV would close and consolidate with MV, would'nt there be another boundary review to balance the enrollment between two high schools? okay -- here we go -- and note this number before we start anything else-- total number of High School Students in 204 as of 1/29/2010 = drum role please - 10.400 ?? 10,000 ? 9500 ?? 9000 ?? nope 8684. This is why we built a 3rd high school ? ( and remember almost 500 of these kids are in Frontier Campus. )-- the 2 high school and the freshman campus's wouldn't handle this ? Really ? Someone tell the people who put together the referendum for freshman campuses that said they would handle 8800-8900 @ 80% capacity ! Let's make sure CBS has this number also okay I will give you 2 sets of numbers friend -- one for 9/30/2009 and another for 1/29/2010- as attendance continues to drop. This also shows a 58 kid drop @ WVHS --( gone back to Neuqua ? ) Waubonsie 9/30/09 - 1/29/2010 by year in school 9th 675-663 10th 645-635 11th 928-916 12th 913-893 13th 23-23 3188 - 3130 Neuqua 9th 1034-1032 10th 10412-1035 11th 1178-1167 12th 1112-1080 13th 27-27 4392-4339 ( remember most of the 500 kids @ Frintier are NVHS ) Metea 9th 638 - 634 10th 535 - 581 1223-1215 Without the WVHS freshman center and if they end the Frontier Campus ( yes, that may happen also) -the schools may see the split shifts the SD tried to scare everyone with before - wouldn't that be ironic. as far as a projection - well friend lets take the 1215 already there and assume they all stay = add to that the 8th grade class of Hill & Granger 317& 254 ( 581) = 1786 next year max ( likely will lose 20 kids min from those nums) and 7th grade classes are 269& 273 (542) = 2330 MAX assume lose 20 kids from Granger & Hill each and enrollment as a 4 year HS will be under 2300 ! --
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Post by doctorwho on Feb 11, 2010 22:47:17 GMT -6
Mike I have the 1/29 enrollment- will get arch to host it to make it available -- enrollment 8684 -- 3130 WVHS / 4339 NVHS / 1215 MVHS ( remembering 500 kids @ Frontier- mostly NVHS )
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Post by Arch on Feb 11, 2010 23:18:10 GMT -6
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Post by casey on Feb 12, 2010 7:37:59 GMT -6
Waubonsie 9/30/09 - 1/29/2010 by year in school 9th 675-663 10th 645-635 11th 928-916 12th 913-893 13th 23-23 3188 - 3130 Neuqua 9th 1034-1032 10th 10412-1035 11th 1178-1167 12th 1112-1080 13th 27-27 4392-4339 ( remember most of the 500 kids @ Frintier are NVHS ) Metea 9th 638 - 634 10th 535 - 581 1223-1215 Yes, they should be looking at redrawing boundaries now for next year. The current enrollment numbers are crazy. MV is way under-utilized (we had to spend $150M for this?!). Very simply, Metea needs more kids and Waubonsie and Neuqua need less! The new fancy special school should have more kids rather than cramming them into an already over-crowded old building like Waubonsie. The only problem is the school is in such a dumb-ass location it makes any logical boundaries impossible! Look at Neuqua. There are 3307 students in the main campus (actually less if you take out the Frontier kids - let's say that's 350 kids). That puts the number of Neuqua kids in the main building at 2957. Now look at Waubonsie. There are 3130 kids in the building (let's take out 150 for Frontier). That puts the number of Waubonsie kids in the building at 2980. Does this really make sense to have the oldest building the most crowded? Remember they sure could not fit all those extra siblings at NV but rather we had to shove them into Waubonsie . Sure Neuqua is crowded (no doubt about that) but what about Waubonsie? There are freshmen that must eat in the rotunda on pull-out tables (that's just pathetic!). Now let's look at our new flagship school ;D Metea. For $150M we have 1215 kids there right now? Seriously boundaries must be reexamined. More kids should be moved to Metea. Waubonsie and Neuqua are still too crowded. How about it, SB, do you dare re-open the boundary wars? IMO it must happen. It breaks my heart when I think of all the turmoil my family went through (kid switching schools, losing friends, split siblings, etc.) and for what? It costs me a heck of a lot of money in taxes to our school district and this is what I get? I'm definitely disappointed in our SD/SB decisions. I'm not putting the blame on the state (sure they're partially responsible) but rather where it belongs - on our SB. They created this mess by building a school we did not need. Now that the school is there they should do something to fix this mess.
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Post by brant on Feb 12, 2010 8:21:41 GMT -6
I am still reeling at the realization of being lied to by a SB that had hidden agendas all along. Where I grew up SBs were made up of people that were pillars of the community and had only the best interests for everyone. It was unthinkable to me a SB would actually sabotage an existing school for their own selfish interests. I am sure at MV they are all very happy at the numbers since their school has plenty of elbow room as opposed to NV and WV where my daughter sits on the floor for lunch and cannot find a seat on the bus coming home. So I find it very offensive McCarty isn't at MV seeing they are just down the road. It seems to me MV was allowed to pick and choose certain elementary schools. Maybe certain people don't want too many title one schools at their new toy. Incidently the same thing can be said at the MS level. My youngest is at Still which is well below full capacity as opposed to Scullen where the kids are wall to wall. Again I kick myself as to have believed the BS the last several years.
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Post by Arch on Feb 12, 2010 8:27:35 GMT -6
The Board and Admin obviously felt a sense of 'entitlement' to the funds and never once thought "Gee, what if what everyone is saying about the state being broke turns out to be true?"
Brant: There are some title one kids at MV... but from what I can tell most are blocked into separate classes and 'segregated' off from the norm due to low test scores. So, on paper it looks like a mix at the school, but in practice it looks like they are kind of shoved off to the side... out of sight out of mind. And yes, our Boundary proposal to the SB had McCarty @ MV (along with Steck) because of exactly what you said: Just down the road (Eola).
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Post by casey on Feb 12, 2010 8:31:16 GMT -6
I am still reeling at the realization of being lied to by a SB that had hidden agendas all along. Where I grew up SBs were made up of people that were pillars of the community and had only the best interests for everyone. It was unthinkable to me a SB would actually sabotage an existing school for their own selfish interests. I am sure at MV they are all very happy at the numbers since their school has plenty of elbow room as opposed to NV and WV where my daughter sits on the floor for lunch and cannot find a seat on the bus coming home. So I find it very offensive McCarty isn't at MV seeing they are just down the road. It seems to me MV was allowed to pick and choose certain elementary schools. Maybe certain people don't want too many title one schools at their new toy. Incidently the same thing can be said at the MS level. My youngest is at Still which is well below full capacity as opposed to Scullen where the kids are wall to wall. Again I kick myself as to have believed the BS the last several years. Wow, you really have seen the light. Welcome to the club .
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Post by concerned2 on Feb 12, 2010 9:15:44 GMT -6
Funny to read on green that they should file a lawsuit against the state. LAMAO!!!! They need to be pointing their fingers at this SB. Hey, wonder how it is going selling that BB land??? Another 6 mil wasted!!!!!!
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Post by Arch on Feb 12, 2010 9:26:02 GMT -6
Funny to read on green that they should file a lawsuit against the state. LAMAO!!!! They need to be pointing their fingers at this SB. Hey, wonder how it is going selling that BB land??? Another 6 mil wasted!!!!!! Sue ourselves??? Wow, talk about a sense of 'entitlement'.
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