ISAT State Rankings

[bob]

www.suntimes.com/pcds/html/stng/hs/isat/rank_state_elementary.html

In the Top 100 statewide: Watts (47), Fry (56), Clow (58), WE (86), Owen (95), Springbrook (97)


Middle Schools

Gregory 50, Scullen 59, Crone 61, Granger 87, Hill 92

Our schools would be even higher if they took out all the Chicago Magnet/Gifted schools. With just suburban schools, we would add 3 more grade schools to the Top 100: Kendell, Brooks and Steck

[doctorwho]

bob said:

www.suntimes.com/pcds/html/stng/hs/isat/rank_state_elementary.html

In the Top 100 statewide: Watts (47), Fry (56), Clow (58), WE (86), Owen (95), Springbrook (97)


Middle Schools

Gregory 50, Scullen 59, Crone 61, Granger 87, Hill 92

Congrats to all -- however being a homer, glad to see May Watts on top -- I believe this has a lot to do with 2 exceptional principals in a row --

[Arch]

doctorwho said:

bob said:

www.suntimes.com/pcds/html/stng/hs/isat/rank_state_elementary.html

In the Top 100 statewide: Watts (47), Fry (56), Clow (58), WE (86), Owen (95), Springbrook (97)

Middle Schools

Gregory 50, Scullen 59, Crone 61, Granger 87, Hill 92

Congrats to all -- however being a homer, glad to see May Watts on top -- I believe this has a lot to do with 2 exceptional principals in a row --

Somewhere in there the teachers and kids had a part.

[dpc]

archwinsome said:

doctorwho said:

Congrats to all -- however being a homer, glad to see May Watts on top -- I believe this has a lot to do with 2 exceptional principals in a row --

Somewhere in there the teachers and kids had a part.

I'd like to think that parents played an important part .

[doctorwho]

archwinsome said:

doctorwho said:

Congrats to all -- however being a homer, glad to see May Watts on top -- I believe this has a lot to do with 2 exceptional principals in a row --

Somewhere in there the teachers and kids had a part.

absolutely, just acknowledging that leadership is a key component though also...

[doctorwho]

dpc said:

archwinsome said:

Somewhere in there the teachers and kids had a part.

I'd like to think that parents played an important part .

in the 3 204 schools I have been involved with over the past 12 years - Watts / Hill & Waubonsie -- parents have been so important to making things work.........can't downplay that

[gatordog]

Great to see the good showing in top 100 by 204. Congrats to students, parents, taxpayers, teachers, and administration.

I see data that the distict is also simulataneously closing the achievement gap. So I give credit to the administration for this achievement as well. Even if not addressed by the sun times rankings, this I think is a major accomplishement.

First, I wont give raw composite ISAT scores since since all scores went up at least partly due to a different way of testing as reported in newspaper---Easier answer sheet, more time, some questions needing shorter response. [For example our highest scoring MS in 04-05 was 89.7 and 05-06 was 95.1... but given diff in tests, these raw numbers are not good staight comparison]

Instead, I will give difference behind the top MS:
MS ISAT score difference

SCHOOL Crone Gregory Scullen Granger Hill Still

diff 04/05 -1.4 -0.4 0.0 -6.0 -6.2 -15.5

diff 05/06 0.0 -0.4 -2.9 -3.8 -4.6 -11.1

I think this is another good measure of recent success in 204. Good job 204!

[gatordog]

FWIW...before a sharp eyed-reading looks at top 100 rankings and sees "Gregory is ahead of Crone" but from my look at raw scores (as printed in Beacon) "Crone is ahead of Gregory", I also was a bit confused by this.

I will attibute this to the Sun Times scoring method. They say "The Sun-Times used a statistical method called standardizing to analyze the Illinois Standards Achievement Test scores of every public school student in the state. The method compares each student's score with the state's average score, and each school's average with that of other schools."

Whatever that means! All this points out that in these "top 100 lists" I kind of doubt if there is any real meaning between a dozen spots either way.

[casey]

What happened at the MS level? We had only one 204 MS in the top 5 (Gregory - #3). District 203 often seems to outscore us on standardized testing. Why? Obviously standardized testing does NOT tell the whole difference but unfortunately that is used as a benchmark to a school's performance.

[EagleDad]

gatordog said:

Great to see the good showing in top 100 by 204. Congrats to students, parents, taxpayers, teachers, and administration.

I see data that the distict is also simulataneously closing the achievement gap. So I give credit to the administration for this achievement as well. Even if not addressed by the sun times rankings, this I think is a major accomplishement.

First, I wont give raw composite ISAT scores since since all scores went up at least partly due to a different way of testing as reported in newspaper---Easier answer sheet, more time, some questions needing shorter response. [For example our highest scoring MS in 04-05 was 89.7 and 05-06 was 95.1... but given diff in tests, these raw numbers are not good staight comparison]

Instead, I will give difference behind the top MS:
MS ISAT score difference

SCHOOL Crone Gregory Scullen Granger Hill Still

diff 04/05 -1.4 -0.4 0.0 -6.0 -6.2 -15.5

diff 05/06 0.0 -0.4 -2.9 -3.8 -4.6 -11.1

I think this is another good measure of recent success in 204. Good job 204!

Nice job on the analysis gatordog, I don't know if you noticed, but it was just about outright quoted by one of the candidates in tonight's forum

[momof3]

bob said:

www.suntimes.com/pcds/html/stng/hs/isat/rank_state_elementary.html

In the Top 100 statewide: Watts (47), Fry (56), Clow (58), WE (86), Owen (95), Springbrook (97)


Middle Schools

Gregory 50, Scullen 59, Crone 61, Granger 87, Hill 92

Our schools would be even higher if they took out all the Chicago Magnet/Gifted schools. With just suburban schools, we would add 3 more grade schools to the Top 100: Kendell, Brooks and Steck

Bob - Where did you find 51-100? I couldn't google it up.

[bob]

momof3 said:

bob said:

www.suntimes.com/pcds/html/stng/hs/isat/rank_state_elementary.html

In the Top 100 statewide: Watts (47), Fry (56), Clow (58), WE (86), Owen (95), Springbrook (97)


Middle Schools

Gregory 50, Scullen 59, Crone 61, Granger 87, Hill 92

Our schools would be even higher if they took out all the Chicago Magnet/Gifted schools. With just suburban schools, we would add 3 more grade schools to the Top 100: Kendell, Brooks and Steck

Bob - Where did you find 51-100? I couldn't google it up.

Looks like they are only showing the top 50 now. That is wierd.

[doctorwho]

bob said:

momof3 said:

Bob - Where did you find 51-100? I couldn't google it up.

Looks like they are only showing the top 50 now. That is wierd.

It seemed like they changed the site to only show 50 after like a day --- Momof3 -- I have a hard copy of the listing if you need any info from it. It was section 1B of the March 13 Herald, and is 5 full pages of data.