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Post by doctorwho on Sept 16, 2007 20:46:56 GMT -6
Not happy about it -- not just because of a 'coveted' sports spot, but a seat in a classroom, teacher time from other students etc. -- if she lives in EA she should go to school in EA - it's really very simple. It's very easy to personalize it and say this 1 person trying to do better, etc.-- but what if 100, or 500 decide that, or 1000 ? Someone will say that has never been the case, but what if it becomes the case ? I fully understand the motivation, and really wish there were no inequities anywhere, but I disagree with the method. At a time when some are trying to convince people that another $55/ year on top of $4 - $7K or more is worth it - it's an issue. And no one has to do the math for one person - if it's 3 cents per person more or whatever, it is not the single person that is the issue, and if you say yes to one, how do you say no to all the rest ? probably not a popular view, but those are my thoughts. An old neighbor of mine had their Varsity Soccer team FORFEIT their wins because a player was found ineligible by the State's rules. Also, Dr..Can you shed any light on this?? I know your girls play @ WV for the VB teams??? Well my last WV player graduated there in 2003, and my youngest will not be there until next year - Playing with an ineligible player can and usually does result in serious penalties as I mentioned and you have been told. How the IHSA rules on this I don't know exactly, as many of the cases I can remember ( usually basketball or football related) - usually centered around a 'star' player 'recruited' from one school to another, out of area etc. I do not know how the IHSA would handle it if the school was completely unaware - maybe differently, maybe the same - not sure. However it is one of the reasons I mentioned that others can suffer as we allow someone to break the rules....because usually this stuff comes out after the season is over. Ineligibility can also revolve around attendance and grades - and my guess is most harsh penalties go to programs that knowingly go around the rules -- I am not sure here yet in the situation mentioned if the school was ever made aware. Were they ? |
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Post by harry on Sept 16, 2007 21:00:20 GMT -6
An old neighbor of mine had their Varsity Soccer team FORFEIT their wins because a player was found ineligible by the State's rules. Also, Dr..Can you shed any light on this?? I know your girls play @ WV for the VB teams??? Well my last WV player graduated there in 2003, and my youngest will not be there until next year - Playing with an ineligible player can and usually does result in serious penalties as I mentioned and you have been told. How the IHSA rules on this I don't know exactly, as many of the cases I can remember ( usually basketball or football related) - usually centered around a 'star' player 'recruited' from one school to another, out of area etc. I do not know how the IHSA would handle it if the school was completely unaware - maybe differently, maybe the same - not sure. However it is one of the reasons I mentioned that others can suffer as we allow someone to break the rules....because usually this stuff comes out after the season is over. Ineligibility can also revolve around attendance and grades - and my guess is most harsh penalties go to programs that knowingly go around the rules -- I am not sure here yet in the situation mentioned if the school was ever made aware. Were they ? That is what I am trying to discern...you don't follow the team unless your kids are involved?? P.s. I totally understand it if this is the case...one only has an alloted amount of time for things outside of their scope... Just thought you might know more than the average Joe RE something as close to your family's sitch. |
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Post by doctorwho on Sept 16, 2007 21:14:22 GMT -6
Well my last WV player graduated there in 2003, and my youngest will not be there until next year - Playing with an ineligible player can and usually does result in serious penalties as I mentioned and you have been told. How the IHSA rules on this I don't know exactly, as many of the cases I can remember ( usually basketball or football related) - usually centered around a 'star' player 'recruited' from one school to another, out of area etc. I do not know how the IHSA would handle it if the school was completely unaware - maybe differently, maybe the same - not sure. However it is one of the reasons I mentioned that others can suffer as we allow someone to break the rules....because usually this stuff comes out after the season is over. Ineligibility can also revolve around attendance and grades - and my guess is most harsh penalties go to programs that knowingly go around the rules -- I am not sure here yet in the situation mentioned if the school was ever made aware. Were they ? That is what I am trying to discern...you don't follow the team unless your kids are involved?? P.s. I totally understand it if this is the case...one only has an alloted amount of time for things outside of their scope... Just thought you might know more than the average Joe RE something as close to your family's sitch. I don't follow them that closely as you are right in that following my daughters college team, my other daughters middle school and club teams - as well as my Cubs ( and Bears / Bulls etc)_ only so much time. I always still check the scores in the paper, read the recaps though. I have been to one match so far this year.....and will likely stop in this weekend for Warrior Blast. My oldest is gone from there going on 5th year now so even most younger siblings of her teammates are also gone. Shows how old I am getting, I know almost as many high school coaches ( 5 ) in the area as players at present. 3 are former players from the area, a few years older than my oldest. That will change starting next year again as my involvement will increase dramatically. |
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