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Post by wvhsparent on Sept 14, 2007 11:41:21 GMT -6
I was able to see my son's Yearbook from last year. I posted a message before regarding a girl who clearly lived in EA SD picking up the bus in my subdivision to go to WVHS. I found her in the yearbook. She was on both the Girls VB and on the Varsity Girls Soccer team.
For those who really did not care that she was trying to better herself. Now how do you feel that she possibly was taking a coveted sports position away from a district resident?
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Post by Arch on Sept 14, 2007 12:16:31 GMT -6
Perhaps if I thought of them as 'coveted' I might feel differently, but I personally don't.
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Post by doctorwho on Sept 14, 2007 13:03:04 GMT -6
I was able to see my son's Yearbook from last year. I posted a message before regarding a girl who clearly lived in EA SD picking up the bus in my subdivision to go to WVHS. I found her in the yearbook. She was on both the Girls VB and on the Varsity Girls Soccer team. For those who really did not care that she was trying to better herself. Now how do you feel that she possibly was taking a coveted sports position away from a district resident? Not happy about it -- not just because of a 'coveted' sports spot, but a seat in a classroom, teacher time from other students etc. -- if she lives in EA she should go to school in EA - it's really very simple. It's very easy to personalize it and say this 1 person trying to do better, etc.-- but what if 100, or 500 decide that, or 1000 ? Someone will say that has never been the case, but what if it becomes the case ? I fully understand the motivation, and really wish there were no inequities anywhere, but I disagree with the method. At a time when some are trying to convince people that another $55/ year on top of $4 - $7K or more is worth it - it's an issue. And no one has to do the math for one person - if it's 3 cents per person more or whatever, it is not the single person that is the issue, and if you say yes to one, how do you say no to all the rest ? probably not a popular view, but those are my thoughts. |
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Post by wvhsparent on Sept 14, 2007 13:27:22 GMT -6
My feelings too on it Dr.
Arch...those spot are coveted by many, even if not by you. It's one thing to get bumped from a team by a player, but something entirely different if said player should not even be going to your school.
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Post by doctorwho on Sept 14, 2007 13:30:19 GMT -6
My feelings too on it Dr. Arch...those spot are coveted by many, even if not by you. It's one thing to get bumped from a team by a player, but something entirely different if said player should not even be going to your school. Also a concern would be the IHSA view on this. If it was found that a coach or admin knew the player was from out of district, there could be serious consequences for the programs and all the other students involved on those programs would suffer. |
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Post by Arch on Sept 14, 2007 13:55:30 GMT -6
My feelings too on it Dr. Arch...those spot are coveted by many, even if not by you. It's one thing to get bumped from a team by a player, but something entirely different if said player should not even be going to your school. So why was it never handled properly per policy back then? |
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Post by doctorwho on Sept 14, 2007 14:02:19 GMT -6
My feelings too on it Dr. Arch...those spot are coveted by many, even if not by you. It's one thing to get bumped from a team by a player, but something entirely different if said player should not even be going to your school. So why was it never handled properly per policy back then? Was it brought to the schools attention ? |
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Post by casey on Sept 14, 2007 15:32:32 GMT -6
Remember, in some certain circumstances there are parents/kids that pay the out of district tuition (around $8000 if I remember correctly). I know for a fact that there are some kids that do pay that $$$ to be in the District. Not sure if this is the case with this girl or not but I would certainly hope that our SD has a resource person or other employee that checks attendance/transportation issues of students. Many districts have a full-time person following up to make sure that students live where they say they do. At the cost of educating a child in 204 any extra kid is BIG MONEY. Does anyone know if our District employs such a person?
As far as the sports issue goes, I think that every position IS coveted. If you disagree, explain that to the 40+ boys that were cut from the Freshman football team at NVHS. Don't know a whole lot about girls' golf but to be selected to the girls VB team is quite an accomplishment (tons of kids try out for very few spots). Don't forget the impact that extra students might have on music programs, clubs, class rank, etc. Every kid makes a difference.
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Post by wvhsparent on Sept 15, 2007 7:14:03 GMT -6
Remember, in some certain circumstances there are parents/kids that pay the out of district tuition (around $8000 if I remember correctly). I know for a fact that there are some kids that do pay that $$$ to be in the District. Not sure if this is the case with this girl or not but I would certainly hope that our SD has a resource person or other employee that checks attendance/transportation issues of students. Many districts have a full-time person following up to make sure that students live where they say they do. At the cost of educating a child in 204 any extra kid is BIG MONEY. Does anyone know if our District employs such a person? As far as the sports issue goes, I think that every position IS coveted. If you disagree, explain that to the 40+ boys that were cut from the Freshman football team at NVHS. Don't know a whole lot about girls' golf but to be selected to the girls VB team is quite an accomplishment (tons of kids try out for very few spots). Don't forget the impact that extra students might have on music programs, clubs, class rank, etc. Every kid makes a difference. I called about this to the school last year. I found out about it when there was less than 2 weeks of school left. While what you state is true, the students are not allowed to use school transport (she was) and would have to get to the school on their own. I was also told that 204 has no students that are using this provision. IMHO the student and family are deceiving the SD. I plan on speaking with the school again soon to see if she is still enrolled at WVHS and living in EA, and demanding action. |
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Post by Arch on Sept 15, 2007 7:31:22 GMT -6
If she has divorced parents where one lives in 204 and one does not and court visitation allows her to reside w/ the one in 204 part of the time, where does the law sit with that?
Does she have to keep switching schools each time she switches where she sleeps over the course of a year?
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Post by wvhsparent on Sept 15, 2007 7:40:50 GMT -6
The one where she stays at the majority of the time is her "place of residence" and if that changes yearly, then I suppose she switches schools yearly too....Does that suck? yep......
In this case she was driven to the bus stop every day for almost the entire year. I know cuz the car had a loud muffler. At first I thought it was because of the cold weather and that they came from a new house off Bilter (Still in the SD), but it continued after the weather was nice, Which prompted me to look into it closer, and when I found out where they lived.
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Post by Arch on Sept 15, 2007 8:13:14 GMT -6
Snitch or let it go. Simple binary choice.
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Post by EagleDad on Sept 15, 2007 8:50:13 GMT -6
If shown to be true, I would think the parents would be held responsible for $8000/year for each year that it occurred.
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Post by southsidemom on Sept 16, 2007 20:22:19 GMT -6
If shown to be true, I would think the parents would be held responsible for $8000/year for each year that it occurred. True ED. However since it happened in the past and was not handled then we must let it go. If we know of a student that does not reside in our boundary, then report it. We pay too much $ in school taxes to fund those residing outside our boundary. |
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Post by harry on Sept 16, 2007 20:35:00 GMT -6
I was able to see my son's Yearbook from last year. I posted a message before regarding a girl who clearly lived in EA SD picking up the bus in my subdivision to go to WVHS. I found her in the yearbook. She was on both the Girls VB and on the Varsity Girls Soccer team. For those who really did not care that she was trying to better herself. Now how do you feel that she possibly was taking a coveted sports position away from a district resident? Not happy about it -- not just because of a 'coveted' sports spot, but a seat in a classroom, teacher time from other students etc. -- if she lives in EA she should go to school in EA - it's really very simple. It's very easy to personalize it and say this 1 person trying to do better, etc.-- but what if 100, or 500 decide that, or 1000 ? Someone will say that has never been the case, but what if it becomes the case ? I fully understand the motivation, and really wish there were no inequities anywhere, but I disagree with the method. At a time when some are trying to convince people that another $55/ year on top of $4 - $7K or more is worth it - it's an issue. And no one has to do the math for one person - if it's 3 cents per person more or whatever, it is not the single person that is the issue, and if you say yes to one, how do you say no to all the rest ? probably not a popular view, but those are my thoughts. An old neighbor of mine had their Varsity Soccer team FORFEIT their wins because a player was found ineligible by the State's rules. Also, Dr..Can you shed any light on this?? I know your girls play @ WV for the VB teams??? |
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