We are SOOOO BAD!

[warriorpride]

spousestonethrow said:

wvhsparent said:

not to worry...he is around.......

Not posting these days? Seems odd. But then again I did hear about the reason why prior to the Herald article. Guess the rumor was actually a fact. That is unfortunate.

huh?

[Arch]

macy said:

archwinsome said:

It's also entirely possible that the person who said that knows the person who received the email and have talked with them about it. They don't actually have to be the recipient to know how the recipient took it if they indeed did share this knowledge with them. So, there is no credibility lost nor gained; IMO.

Sorry, no offense meant at all but What are you saying. I read it a few times and couldn't at all understand your point.

It's called a progression post. Read the progression of posts about that particular topic leading up to it. It will be quite clear.

[justme]

warriorpride said:

spousestonethrow said:

Not posting these days? Seems odd. But then again I did hear about the reason why prior to the Herald article. Guess the rumor was actually a fact. That is unfortunate.

huh?

It's just odd that his last post was at 6:22 am on April 18, the day after the election. ED was posting several times a day prior to that. Strange and more than a little disappointing.

[gatormom]

justme said:

warriorpride said:

huh?

It's just odd that his last post was at 6:22 am on April 18, the day after the election. ED was posting several times a day prior to that. Strange and more than a little disappointing.

Why is that disappointing? I certainly miss hearing EDs point of view on the board but far more disappointing to me are the candidate sour grapes being expressed in this article.

MD and L2 both are placing blame for their losses and not accepting any responsibility in the results. L2 ran a non-campaign. People didn't know who she was yet she blames the proboards for things said here. MD, what can I say? She has been shown to be a bitter, angry woman who will say anything about this board to make her point that she was mistreated here. She had the opportunity to present her side of the story. She was asked by Eagledad to explain it but chose not to.

What about SC and KK? No comment. Maybe they were afraid they would get a threatening email. No wait, they already lost. They had no fear of getting an email that obviously referred to the 2009 election.

Each candidate had the choice of holding their head up and leaving this race with dignity and yet these losing candidates chose to spew bitterness and lay blame.

On top of it all, CV has decided to continue to spin things, IMO, the whole poor me garbage. No one listens to me, look, I have been threatened. An email the night after an election saying I am next. I know who wrote it and I wrote that person back but eventually I called the police because of VT you know. That certainly disappoints me but I would expect no less of CV.

By the way, whoever did write that email did demonstrate a lapse in good judgment. A poor judgment call does not make it a threat but then I guess CV had to come out with some sort of victory that night, not sure what it is though.

[bluemoonoden]

Another reference to this board in the Sunday Daily Herald. John Zimmerman rails against BLOG BULLIES. More of the same old, same old.

[warriorpride]

justme said:

warriorpride said:

huh?

It's just odd that his last post was at 6:22 am on April 18, the day after the election. ED was posting several times a day prior to that. Strange and more than a little disappointing.

There have been plenty of people that have stopped posting on this forum for periods of time. Perhaps ED is out of town, or has other priorities right now? Nobody is obligated to post on a daily basis here. Honestly, there's not much to discuss here right now, either. What's interesting and NOT surpising is that a few people that joined during the push to the election (February), and clearly had candidates that they were supporting, have not even signed in since the election.

[warriorpride]

bluemoonoden said:

Another reference to this board in the Sunday Daily Herald. John Zimmerman rails against BLOG BULLIES. More of the same old, same old.

Maybe the press is angry that this forum 1) sometimes beat them to the story; and 2) usually gets more comprehensive & accurate facts.

[proschool]

justme said:

warriorpride said:

huh?

It's just odd that his last post was at 6:22 am on April 18, the day after the election. ED was posting several times a day prior to that. Strange and more than a little disappointing.

People get busy and the election is over.

I find it more strange thereare poeple who had nothing to say and this board troughout boundaries, the referendum and the electon but now have all questions about where someone is.

Where were you and why is this so important to you now?

[warriorpride]

warriorpride said:

bluemoonoden said:

Another reference to this board in the Sunday Daily Herald. John Zimmerman rails against BLOG BULLIES. More of the same old, same old.

Maybe the press is angry that this forum 1) sometimes beat them to the story; and 2) usually gets more comprehensive & accurate facts.

Nope - I was wrong. It's BS - he generalizes about "blog bullies" and throws this forum in with all the others. He just quotes MD & CV. I doubt he actaully knows much about this particular board - it was much easier for him to attack this board with quotes from others - too much work to actually learn about this board.

[proschool]

From the Herald:

Ranting and raving getting out of control from bullies on blogs

By John Zimmerman
Daily Herald Editorial Columnist
Posted Sunday, May 06, 2007


E-mail is great way to communicate.

It is also a refuge for cowards.

It offers a way to be petty, mean, personal, rude, crude, confrontational and just plain silly — without having to face the person being pummeled by the computer keyboard.

Take, for example, the way some candidates for school board in Indian Prairie District 204 and Naperville Unit District 203 were mauled on “message boards” on the Internet.

District 204 candidate Michelle Davis said she found “hurtful dialogue, twisted lies and racist jokes” on a message board. Davis is black. She finished fourth in the District 204 campaign, and believes the garbage on the blogs contributed to her defeat. District 204 candidate Leanne Lyons also believes she lost the election because of wrong and hurtful things she said was put out about her on a message board. More specifically, she blames a Daily Herald columnist who directed people to this message board. I doubt a message board of this ilk can swing the outcome of election, but it’s tough stuff to read, for sure.

The three candidates who ran as the Taxpayers Ticket in the District 203 campaign found themselves referred to as the “scumbag slate” on the Internet.

Suzyn Price, another District 203 candidate, said she was disturbed by an anonymous blog that said she doesn’t belong in the community.

District 204 school board member Christine Vickers got something similar, via e-mail, and called the police.

“In the subject line, it said, ‘Goodnight Christine,’ and then in the body all it said was: ‘You’re next.’æ”

This, in the wake of the shootings at Virginia Tech. Whatever this person was thinking, he had to discuss with the police. No charges were filed but the matter has been turned over to the DuPage County state’s attorney’s office.

In my career as an opinion writer in the era of the advent of the Internet, I have gotten my share of ugly e-mails. (Though more often, I get e-mails that offer strong but constructive criticism of my work, and even praise.)

And out of curiosity, I joined in on a discussion board on current events via my home computer. The degree of profanity, name-calling and attempts at intimidation was appalling. It was the kind of stuff you’d expect to hear from street gang members, not put on computer screens by supposedly intelligent, stable people.

I got a feeling people like this never get over having the ball taken from them when they were kids, and relish the opportunity to be bullies on their own, on the blogs, all under the safe cover of anonymity. Or maybe no one wants to listen to the weird mean mush dribbling out of their mouths, so they work out their frustration voicelessly by clacking out their caustic commentary on the computer.

Or maybe all the rage on the Internet has nothing at all to do with poor self concepts or revenge, but is a reflection of a society becoming less civil. It just seems more people are angry and alienated and quicker to badmouth everything. At least that is my observation from communicating with the public in a 20-year journalism career.

But I have found a way to respond to those irascible e-mailers. Sometimes, I just ignore them if they are nothing but personal attacks. But other times, I will reply, and invite the person to give me a call so that we may talk, man-to-man or man-to-woman, about the opinions they have about my opinions.

Most time, they never call. Not surprising. They don’t want to have a personal exchange of this kind. They can’t handle that. It’s too uncomfortable to be this accountable. They’d rather hide behind their computer and bash away without risk of putting their face to their reckless ranting. They can’t be happy or feel in command any other way.

All this brings to mind this quote from the film Billy Madison:

“Mr. Madison, what you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it.”

Or in this case, having read it.


• Printable version

Like this guy really cares who I am.

I started posting on this blog because I never saw the infromation coming out in the newspapers.

The first example that comes to my mind is that the neither the Herald nor the Sun has ever provided and accurate description of the location of MVHS even though they know it was a major issue for the school.

There are dozens of other examples.


Trust me I would be a lot happier if I picked up the paper saw accurate information and went about my day.

[gumby]

C'mon now. Without the sensationalism and the obligatory race-card, where would these journalists be? It does not really matter that these writers have not really checked out the subject matter of the story. What is the point if there is not some type of sensationalism?

I guess the normal mundane truth does not add to readership.

[momof3]

Interesting that the DH continues on their anti-blog tear while the Naperville Sun, Chi Tribune, Chi Sun Times, etc. embrace the blog. Maybe it is a perceived threat to business? Why be on top of a trend when you can just try to make it go away? I guess the DH's next great business venture will be buggy whips or dinosaur harnesses.

ETA - Interesting also that this writer relies solely on heresay for his story...?

[Arch]

Wow, a column about rehashing stuff already printed.

Funny that it ends with a statement about idiotic ramblings being printed. I was thinking that by the time I got to the bottom of the article, and there were my thoughts exactly.

Psychic!

[warriorpride]

Yeah, I guess only John Zimmerman has the right to free speach. And we all know that his paper has the right to publish inaccurate, incomplete, biased information.

And, while this forum offers the ability for people to have an exchange of opinions, ideas and information, John Zimmerman has the right to give his one-sided, uninformed "opinion".

[proschool]

John Zimmerman seems to think that what is said is less important than who gets to say it.