We are SOOOO BAD!

[movingforward]

klsemom said:

I’ve been a long-time reader of this board. It's a great place to learn about what's going on in the district from people who genuinely seem to want what's best. At the beginning, it seemed also to be a pretty good place to go to get a variety of opinions. During this past election, however, I do feel that it changed. I do agree with a lot of the newspaper coverage of this oard.

IMO, before the elections, the tone of the board became quite hostile and yes, a little ridiculous - does anyone really care about where campaign signs were placed? The amount of background research done on these people became, quite frankly, a little creepy.

I did receive the inappropriate (my opinion) email from the active member of this board responding to a candidate coffee in a private home. I found his tone to be fairly offensive, implying the he was inviting himself to challenge these candidates (because I guess we attendees wouldn’t know what to ask) and that he might bring some friends with him. He then signed this unsolicited RSVP with his board screen name. Would you honestly want this person, whose name you don’t know, to show up at your door? I wouldn’t.

When did it become wrong to have different opinions? People from CFO opposed the third high school so they, and the candidates who thought most like them, should be vilified? Chris Vickers is often opposed to the leanings of this board so she should be ridiculed and then questioned about her reaction to a personal email she received? This is ridiculous. Aren’t we the society that promotes the free marketplace of ideas?

I’m urging the people of this board to raise the bar some on the quality of the debate. Discuss the issues, not the people. Promote those candidates you feel most agree with your views. Welcome people with differing opinions and don’t attack them personally because they disagree with you. Isn’t this what we’re supposed to be teaching our kids?

klsemom,

You say that you agree with the newspaper coverage of this board.

It does not appear to me that the reporters of the first story ( the story for which this thread was created) visited this site to corroborate the info they were given.... The first story only included quotes from MD and others about this board . They give no indication that they visited the site.

The second reporter (Zimmerman) admited to a poster that he did not visit the board until after his article was printed.

Just FYI for you .

[wvhsparent]

klsemom welcome on your second post. I would like you to review this board again.
There are many divergent viewpoints here. And I for one was a very BIG NO the 1st time thru. There are still many things I oppose that the SB is doing. And there are many that I have changed my mind about too. I am definitely not a "status quo guy"

I like to think I provide constructive criticism backed by factual data, if it is not I say so such as my opinions on things, which I have many.

Did it testy around here...yup sure did....that's real life. IMHO

[doctorwho]

archwinsome said:

klsemom said:

When did it become wrong to have different opinions? People from CFO opposed the third high school so they, and the candidates who thought most like them, should be vilified? Chris Vickers is often opposed to the leanings of this board so she should be ridiculed and then questioned about her reaction to a personal email she received? This is ridiculous. Aren’t we the society that promotes the free marketplace of ideas?

I’m urging the people of this board to raise the bar some on the quality of the debate. Discuss the issues, not the people. Promote those candidates you feel most agree with your views. Welcome people with differing opinions and don’t attack them personally because they disagree with you. Isn’t this what we’re supposed to be teaching our kids?

You're right. To be fair, there were personal attacks on the SB as a whole from some posters, for example:
Posted by D204taxpayer on 4/10/07

"I respectfully disagree. Solid, respectible, credible boundary criteria should be developed and written in policy. The "natural" aspect equates to me to be put some parents on an advisory committee with personal interests and agendas and let the free for all begin. The SB sits backs, administration sets the stage, leads them around by their noses, joyfully watches the ugly cat fights, brushes off the dust, washes off the blood, some agendas win, others lose, SB walks away clean as a whistle, blames the committee for the outcome; beautiful!

Please don't kid yourself--The ability to manipulate boundary criteria and boundaries equates to power over the children and parents."
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and:
Dec 29, 2006
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"Are you the puppeteer, bob, or one of many puppets? Why all the worry about CV?"
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And a good one 4/8/07 by Ric:
"There will be consequences for hiding the Macom property from the public

and

lying to the tax payers the current situation of overcrowding, of which there is none.

Also, the sb has not guaranteed any YES voter that boundaries will not change

BOUNDARIES WILL CHANGE

They have treated the dist 204 taxpayers like mushrooms

1. kept in the dark

2. fed horsesh##

3. and expected to grow

Thousands scream ENOUGH

Good bye Mark Metzger,,,it was nice knowing you

Good bye Curt Bradshaw........a puppet

Good bye Alka Tyle,,,your are unfortunately status quo"

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Ut Oh.. were those threats too? Quick, call the authorities!


Personally I have to wonder if 'ric' wrote the 'goodbye/goodnight' email... but that's my own question to myself... it just sounds way too similar to his posting above.

some interesting choices

so again we're singling one person out why ?

[southsidemom]

movingforward said:

klsemom said:

I’ve been a long-time reader of this board. It's a great place to learn about what's going on in the district from people who genuinely seem to want what's best. At the beginning, it seemed also to be a pretty good place to go to get a variety of opinions. During this past election, however, I do feel that it changed. I do agree with a lot of the newspaper coverage of this board.

IMO, before the elections, the tone of the board became quite hostile and yes, a little ridiculous - does anyone really care about where campaign signs were placed? The amount of background research done on these people became, quite frankly, a little creepy.

I did receive the inappropriate (my opinion) email from the active member of this board responding to a candidate coffee in a private home. I found his tone to be fairly offensive, implying the he was inviting himself to challenge these candidates (because I guess we attendees wouldn’t know what to ask) and that he might bring some friends with him. He then signed this unsolicited RSVP with his board screen name. Would you honestly want this person, whose name you don’t know, to show up at your door? I wouldn’t.

When did it become wrong to have different opinions? People from CFO opposed the third high school so they, and the candidates who thought most like them, should be vilified? Chris Vickers is often opposed to the leanings of this board so she should be ridiculed and then questioned about her reaction to a personal email she received? This is ridiculous. Aren’t we the society that promotes the free marketplace of ideas?

I’m urging the people of this board to raise the bar some on the quality of the debate. Discuss the issues, not the people. Promote those candidates you feel most agree with your views. Welcome people with differing opinions and don’t attack them personally because they disagree with you. Isn’t this what we’re supposed to be teaching our kids?

The quality of debate on this board IMO has always been very respectable.

IMO opinion your comments are unsubstantiated.

But I respect your right to express your opinion nonetheless.

Always been respectable debate? Now you must be kidding. Always...hmmmm. Perhaps I define respect differently than you so you are entitled to your opinion.

[doctorwho]

southsidemom said:

movingforward said:

The quality of debate on this board IMO has always been very respectable.

IMO opinion your comments are unsubstantiated.

But I respect your right to express your opinion nonetheless.

Always been respectable debate? Now you must be kidding. Always...hmmmm. Perhaps I define respect differently than you so you are entitled to your opinion.

Compared to most other blogs, this one is far more closely moderated...again if you don't believe anyone, go to any Yahoo finance board...this is the G ( not even PG ) version of many boards.

[Arch]

SSMom,

Please post a URL for a board that you feel is more 'respectable' that covers any local school district.

The only ones I have seen more 'respectable' all had to have each post be approved by a moderator BEFORE they appeared in a forum. IE: Filtered and altered by someone who proof-read them for 'sensitivity' and decided to either post, modify or not post at all. (The downside of that is that posts then tend to reflect only what those running it want to show or present in the 'forum').

Since this is an 'instant gratification' type of setup, emotions do flow through into posts. That's part of being human, but we keep each other in check and call it out when it happens. In almost every circumstance some sort of apology, clarification of what was meant, or restatement is made. Not every, but most.

So please, show us one that is open to the public, INSTANT posting, and covers a school district that is what we should look to for the shining beacon of how to be. It can be *ANY* school district in the country too, not just 204 and not just Illinois.

[warriorpride]

archwinsome said:

SSMom,

Please post a URL for a board that you feel is more 'respectable' that covers any local school district.

The only ones I have seen more 'respectable' all had to have each post be approved by a moderator BEFORE they appeared in a forum. IE: Filtered and altered by someone who proof-read them for 'sensitivity' and decided to either post, modify or not post at all. (The downside of that is that posts then tend to reflect only what those running it want to show or present in the 'forum').

Since this is an 'instant gratification' type of setup, emotions do flow through into posts. That's part of being human, but we keep each other in check and call it out when it happens. In almost every circumstance some sort of apology, clarification of what was meant, or restatement is made. Not every, but most.

So please, show us one that is open to the public, INSTANT posting, and covers a school district that is what we should look to for the shining beacon of how to be. It can be *ANY* school district in the country too, not just 204 and not just Illinois.

Let's take it one step better & open it up to everyone. What suggestions do people have to make this forum "better"? Or do some people just want to see it shut down?

ETA: I've created a new thread for suggestions: ipsd204.proboards76.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=board2&thread=1178890298

[wvhsparent]

FYI

It's not gonna shut down if I can help it.

[driven]

doctorwho said:

some interesting choices

so again we're singling one person out why ?

Only one person sent a "threatening" email directly to a SB member.

[wvhsparent]

OK. This topic has run it's course...it's in rerun mode.

locked up