Dist. 204 gearing up for new set of boundary talks

[d204mom]

archwinsome said:

Can the portables be left another year or legally do we need to swap them out? It was always kicked around that their 'life' was 5 years or so. Is that true or not? If we have to incur an additional expense for either leaving them there longer or adding more, that takes away from the available funds for MVHS that everyone seems to have drawn a line in the sand about.

At the sb meeting Dave Holm was very clear that the $900,000 would be used on the new high school instead of issuing bonds. Like we might be under the legal bond amount.

But he also said that the $900,000 could be spent on any building project. So why take 900K that could be spent on anything and earmark it exclusively for the high school? That could be spent on air conditioning.

They could just as easily earmark the ADK fund for the new high school. Where is that money appearing from? The 900K must be spent on building projects but they can spend op funds on anything they want.

Also, Dave H reinterated that they expect MV to cost 4.5 M a year to run - that includes teachers and building operations - and haven't made a final decision on when the op ref or if the op ref is needed?

How are they coming up with that much surplus every year? Why isn't it being saved and earmarked for the new high school as well?

Watch the video of the meeting - Dave H runs throught this after the break.

[d204mom]

twhl said:

The beginning of this post is very disturbing. To see our elected officials be quoted as they are. I think the Board and Adm should refrain from commenting on any emails they may have received or will receive. Just stop. What is the purpose? Will announcing those comments/emails help us build the school quicker, will they save us $$, will they help with the cleanup, will they help with the traffic?

Glawe made a big deal about the anti-wv emails but glossed right over the pro-WV emails. He specifically mentions that Watts/Cow/Owen are "off by themselves" or something? Like being smack dab in the middle of the district they shouldn't expect to go to the closest or 2nd closest high school in the district.

It was really just more spin. They need to build a case for pre-determined boundaries.

[twhl]

warriorpride said:

twhl said:

Thats not what i said. So explain to me how are they addressing them and taking them head on ?

By selecting AME

So again how does that get rid of the negative emails and thoughts and comments? The comments still keep coming and they are because they chose AME. What are you saying ?

[momto4]

d204mom said:

twhl said:

The beginning of this post is very disturbing. To see our elected officials be quoted as they are. I think the Board and Adm should refrain from commenting on any emails they may have received or will receive. Just stop. What is the purpose? Will announcing those comments/emails help us build the school quicker, will they save us $$, will they help with the cleanup, will they help with the traffic?

Glawe made a big deal about the anti-wv emails but glossed right over the pro-WV emails. He specifically mentions that Watts/Cow/Owen are "off by themselves" or something? Like being smack dab in the middle of the district they shouldn't expect to go to the closest or 2nd closest high school in the district.

It was really just more spin. They need to build a case for pre-determined boundaries.

Glawe was listing people's questions/issues/concerns. He didn't go into whatever was in those 71% pro comments. How is this spin? What needed to be addressed in regard to positive comments?

I'm thinking it would be good to move WV to the new building at AME since it will be attended by people currently in the WV attendance area, and make the "new" school that is made up of people from both NV and WV attendance areas in the current WV building but call it MV... It's probably not feasible but it's interesting to think about. Similar to when Granger moved a few years back.

A large number of current proud Warrior families would stay Warriors, and the new people coming from NV attendance area would be part of the new MV similar to what we expected at BB. (Would be strange for those current WV people that would attend the current WV building as MV)

[twhl]

"We've been working on that reputation for years, but most of the ugly things we hear are comments from people who have never stepped into the buildings," said Metzger, whose son graduated last year from Waubonsie. "It doesn't matter where the stuff comes from because it's just false information."

Board member Bruce Glawe said he was "repulsed" by many e-mails he received.

"We got some e-mails that would scald your ears from some people that are just embarrassing," Glawe said. "I gotta tell you, I have a son who graduated from there and he's a great young man.

These are the negative quotes I was referring to. Unecessary and uncalled for. SB - just do your job.

[warriorpride]

twhl said:

warriorpride said:

By selecting AME

So again how does that get rid of the negative emails and thoughts and comments? The comments still keep coming and they are because they chose AME. What are you saying ?

what i heard was: AME allows a redistribution of areas across the 3 HSs that should essentially eliminate the majority of the perceptions & stereotyping. WV really will be new/different, with a number of "new" areas (previously NV feeders) feeding in, and AME will obviously be new, as well. A clean slate for all of the HSs, if you will.

[twhl]

I hope and to an extent believe that will be the case. I am telling the Board to not keep bringing it up. BG has to be objective, and you can see that his comments are not. That will decrease the chance of a positive outcome. Hope you agree. If it isnt positive, then dont say it SB - no matter how hard you need to bite your tongue.

[d204mom]

momto4 said:

A large number of current proud Warrior families would stay Warriors, and the new people coming from NV attendance area would be part of the new MV similar to what we expected at BB. (Would be strange for those current WV people that would attend the current WV building as MV)

Making the WV boundaries similar to the MV boundaries at BB makes a lot of geographical sense with just a few swaps I sure hope the boundary deciders consider your idea.

[d204mom]

twhl said:

I hope and to an extent believe that will be the case. I am telling the Board to not keep bringing it up. BG has to be objective, and you can see that his comments are not. That will decrease the chance of a positive outcome. Hope you agree. If it isnt positive, then dont say it SB - no matter how hard you need to bite your tongue.

I think repeating negative stereotypes is just as bad if not worse than stating them to begin with. Especially as an elected official in a public forum.

Just keeps it going. I agree.

[refbasics]

........... "We've been working on that reputation for years, but most of the ugly things we hear are comments from people who have never stepped into the buildings," said Metzger, whose son graduated last year from Waubonsie. It doesn't matter where the stuff comes from because it's just false information."

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Did these awful people say... 'by the way... i have never been to WVHS?.. i just like sending crank emails on things i don't know anything about!'

If you are a public official making a public statement... please say something of importance.. not GOOFY, or inflammatory stuff!

PS why am i putting this on the BLOG- i should submit this to 'surveymonkey' (if it's still working)cuz that's the DIRECT line to the SB/SD! ;D

[momto4]

refbasics said:

Did these awful people say... 'by the way... i have never been to WVHS?.. i just like sending crank emails on things i don't know anything about!'

If you are a public official making a public statement... please say something of importance.. not GOOFY, or inflammatory stuff!

PS why am i putting this on the BLOG- i should submit this to 'surveymonkey' (if it's still working)cuz that's the DIRECT line to the SB/SD! ;D

I don't know what people said in the survey, but in real life the people I know that have experience with WV love it, and those who say negative things about it have no experience with it. I think the SB members have seen this same scenario time and again for years.

In any case, I just wanted to let you know that if you have comments, I think the survey thing is still working. I put comments on there yesterday and got a response from one board member.

I guess you all are saying that the SB should ignore that category of feedback where people say they couldn't possibly send their kids to WV because of x,y,z? I for one would have been surprised if this hadn't been one of the categories to be covered. Or are you saying that they could have done a better job with it - for example saying that they received a category of feedback of people who had negative things to say about WV and that this is not worth rehashing at this point or in this forum?

[warriorpride]

momto4 said:

...I'm thinking it would be good to move WV to the new building at AME since it will be attended by people currently in the WV attendance area, and make the "new" school that is made up of people from both NV and WV attendance areas in the current WV building but call it MV... It's probably not feasible but it's interesting to think about. Similar to when Granger moved a few years back.

A large number of current proud Warrior families would stay Warriors, and the new people coming from NV attendance area would be part of the new MV similar to what we expected at BB. (Would be strange for those current WV people that would attend the current WV building as MV)

Whoa - that's a very interesting idea! Are you proposing that the WV staff move north, too? One logistical issue would be that only some staff (frosh/soph) would move over in yr 1.

Another logistical issue: there's an awful lot of green in the inside and outside of WV. Last, I wonder if there is any precedence for this. Has a high school "moved" before? Would they send out a "we've moved" postcard to everyone? Would all sports records, trophies, academic records, etc. move north?

I can't see this happening, but it's very interesting to think about.

[doctorwho]

warriorpride said:

twhl said:

So again how does that get rid of the negative emails and thoughts and comments? The comments still keep coming and they are because they chose AME. What are you saying ?

what i heard was: AME allows a redistribution of areas across the 3 HSs that should essentially eliminate the majority of the perceptions & stereotyping. WV really will be new/different, with a number of "new" areas (previously NV feeders) feeding in, and AME will obviously be new, as well. A clean slate for all of the HSs, if you will.

would you agree then that NV should also have gotten some 'new schools' in this restructuring ? Except for being smaller - how does it change ?

and yes I realize there are geographic considerations, but it seems that commutes are not the number one issue.

[slp]

d204mom said:

Hey did anyone hear George Vickers speak? About leaving WV's freshman center open for one year after MV opens? In order to relieve the overcrowding at WV he suggested that the portables be left up at Scullen for one extra year.

What do people think about that idea?

I had no idea that there would continue to be an issue with overcrowding at WV that first year that MV opens. Can someone 'in the know' please explain this to me?

Our area is being asked to change schools (which I have embraced) to then be put into another overcrowded scenario.

Am I missing something?

I welcome info on this because I truely do not know the details of the numbers that first year.

[doctorwho]

warriorpride said:

momto4 said:

...I'm thinking it would be good to move WV to the new building at AME since it will be attended by people currently in the WV attendance area, and make the "new" school that is made up of people from both NV and WV attendance areas in the current WV building but call it MV... It's probably not feasible but it's interesting to think about. Similar to when Granger moved a few years back.

A large number of current proud Warrior families would stay Warriors, and the new people coming from NV attendance area would be part of the new MV similar to what we expected at BB. (Would be strange for those current WV people that would attend the current WV building as MV)

Whoa - that's a very interesting idea! Are you proposing that the WV staff move north, too? One logistical issue would be that only some staff (frosh/soph) would move over in yr 1.

Another logistical issue: there's an awful lot of green in the inside and outside of WV. Last, I wonder if there is any precedence for this. Has a high school "moved" before? Would they send out a "we've moved" postcard to everyone? Would all sports records, trophies, academic records, etc. move north?

I can't see this happening, but it's very interesting to think about.

I think there is precedence for new schools opening and assuming the names of older ones - and their records etc.-- but usually the old school closed. I am not aware of any where they renamed the old school and moved it's name elsewhere.

( although tha's exactly what will happen when the old Granger MS is renamed )