Dist. 204 gearing up for new set of boundary talks

[d204mom]

slp said:

d204mom said:

Hey did anyone hear George Vickers speak? About leaving WV's freshman center open for one year after MV opens? In order to relieve the overcrowding at WV he suggested that the portables be left up at Scullen for one extra year.

What do people think about that idea?

I had no idea that there would continue to be an issue with overcrowding at WV that first year that MV opens. Can someone 'in the know' please explain this to me?

Our area is being asked to change schools (which I have embraced) to then be put into another overcrowded scenario.

Am I missing something?

I welcome info on this because I truely do not know the details of the numbers that first year.

Not in the know but WV will be over capacity for first 2 years - after the freshman center closes. Roughly they are 3600 now, between FC and Main campus or 900 per class. When MV opens they will have 2 classes of 900 plus 2 classes of "new" capacity 750 for a total of 3300. That will be 3150 in year 2 and 3000 in year 3.

So keeping the FC open for one extra year limits the
overcrowding.

If I got that wrong please someone correct me.

NV is also overcrowded until the "overcrowded" Jrs and Srs classes leave.

[momto4]

slp said:

d204mom said:

Hey did anyone hear George Vickers speak? About leaving WV's freshman center open for one year after MV opens? In order to relieve the overcrowding at WV he suggested that the portables be left up at Scullen for one extra year.

What do people think about that idea?

I had no idea that there would continue to be an issue with overcrowding at WV that first year that MV opens. Can someone 'in the know' please explain this to me?

Our area is being asked to change schools (which I have embraced) to then be put into another overcrowded scenario.

Am I missing something?

I welcome info on this because I truely do not know the details of the numbers that first year.

This has always been a concern of mine because I will have a freshman and senior in 2009. Currently WV houses grades 10-12, each with slightly under 1000 kids and each class may be slightly larger than the one before, with the largest class always at the freshman center across the street.

The year the new HS opens there will be a full class of juniors and seniors at WV just like there is now (but possibly slightly larger classes), and they will also have approximately 2/3 class of both freshman (since gold campus will be a MS) and sophomores, so there will be more kids in the main building than there now.

My kids who attend there now consider it to be extremely crowded by any measure that would be noticeable to them.

[momto4]

d204mom said:

slp said:

I had no idea that there would continue to be an issue with overcrowding at WV that first year that MV opens. Can someone 'in the know' please explain this to me?

Our area is being asked to change schools (which I have embraced) to then be put into another overcrowded scenario.

Am I missing something?

I welcome info on this because I truely do not know the details of the numbers that first year.

Not in the know but WV will be over capacity for first 2 years - after the freshman center closes. Roughly they are 3600 now, between FC and Main campus or 900 per class. When MV opens they will have 2 classes of 900 plus 2 classes of "new" capacity 750 for a total of 3300. That will be 3150 in year 2 and 3000 in year 3.

So keeping the FC open for one extra year limits the
overcrowding.

If I got that wrong please someone correct me.

NV is also overcrowded until the "overcrowded" Jrs and Srs classes leave.

NV is already overcrowded and since it's keeping the gold campus, would become less overcrowded each year for a while starting with the opening of the new HS.

[d204mom]

slp said:

Our area is being asked to change schools (which I have embraced) to then be put into another overcrowded scenario.

That is my understanding. The first year at WV will be especially bad.

[doctorwho]

momto4 said:

slp said:

I had no idea that there would continue to be an issue with overcrowding at WV that first year that MV opens. Can someone 'in the know' please explain this to me?

Our area is being asked to change schools (which I have embraced) to then be put into another overcrowded scenario.

Am I missing something?

I welcome info on this because I truely do not know the details of the numbers that first year.

This has always been a concern of mine because I will have a freshman and senior in 2009. Currently WV houses grades 10-12, each with slightly under 1000 kids and each class may be slightly larger than the one before, with the largest class always at the freshman center across the street.

The year the new HS opens there will be a full class of juniors and seniors at WV just like there is now (but possibly slightly larger classes), and they will also have approximately 2/3 class of both freshman (since gold campus will be a MS) and sophomores, so there will be more kids in the main building than there now.

My kids who attend there now consider it to be extremely crowded by any measure that would be noticeable to them.

My daughter was at WVHS when NV opened - it will take 2 years to settle out

[wvhsparent]

That is reality unfortunately....unless you could talk the new juniors to move over the 1st year too......hey doc...I wonder if they would consider Varsity stuff if the Juniors moved too that 1st year.....

[refbasics]

from dr who:

( although tha's exactly what will happen when the old Granger MS is renamed )[/quote]

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and the 'old' Crone! ;D After moving here in 2000.. just when i thought i got some of the schools straight... they switched the names on me! ;D

I've never seen that anywhere else i lived!

[forthekids]

momto4 said:

d204mom said:

Glawe made a big deal about the anti-wv emails but glossed right over the pro-WV emails. He specifically mentions that Watts/Cow/Owen are "off by themselves" or something? Like being smack dab in the middle of the district they shouldn't expect to go to the closest or 2nd closest high school in the district.

It was really just more spin. They need to build a case for pre-determined boundaries.

Glawe was listing people's questions/issues/concerns. He didn't go into whatever was in those 71% pro comments. How is this spin? What needed to be addressed in regard to positive comments?

I'm thinking it would be good to move WV to the new building at AME since it will be attended by people currently in the WV attendance area, and make the "new" school that is made up of people from both NV and WV attendance areas in the current WV building but call it MV... It's probably not feasible but it's interesting to think about. Similar to when Granger moved a few years back.

A large number of current proud Warrior families would stay Warriors, and the new people coming from NV attendance area would be part of the new MV similar to what we expected at BB. (Would be strange for those current WV people that would attend the current WV building as MV)

My youngest child is graduating from NVHS this year, so although I voted for the new high school because I felt it was needed, I do not really have a stake in this any longer. That being said, I think the idea of renaming WVHS to MVHS and vice versa is a great idea. After having these kids think they were going to a new school, vote on a mascot and colors, get them invested in the idea of starting something new and then taking it away from them, I believe they would welcome the chance to begin again at an old WVHS with a new image! I love the idea but I'm sure someone on the SB will think of a million reasons why it wouldn't work. Other than HATING the site (I am one of the 39% that e-mailed saying so, nothing negative about WVHS, just the site), I feel the biggest injustice is to the kids who thought they were going to a new school.

[momto4]

forthekids said:

My youngest child is graduating from NVHS this year, so although I voted for the new high school because I felt it was needed, I do not really have a stake in this any longer. That being said, I think the idea of renaming WVHS to MVHS and vice versa is a great idea. After having these kids think they were going to a new school, vote on a mascot and colors, get them invested in the idea of starting something new and then taking it away from them, I believe they would welcome the chance to begin again at an old WVHS with a new image! I love the idea but I'm sure someone on the SB will think of a million reasons why it wouldn't work. Other than HATING the site (I am one of the 39% that e-mailed saying so), I feel the biggest injustice is to the kids who thought they were going to a new school.

I'm not sure why it's a bigger injustice to think you were going to a new school and are not, than to think you are going to the same school your older siblings attended but you are now going to a new school. Whatever. It's time to embrace change (something we used to hear a lot at work).

[sushi]

IMO changing the name of the building at Eola and Ogden is wrong, wrong. It's time to move forward, people have to change; it's a good life lesson for kids and adults alike. I wouldn't like to come home to my alma mater and see it called Joes Highschool or anything else. Our kids are much more resilient than we give them credit for. This is not something to worry about IMO.

[sushi]

I do think the suggestion to let the new attendees rechoose the mascot and colors is a good idea.

[d204mom]

wvhsparent said:

That is reality unfortunately....unless you could talk the new juniors to move over the 1st year too......hey doc...I wonder if they would consider Varsity stuff if the Juniors moved too that 1st year.....

A solution to this "reality" was proposed.

Keep WV FC open for one additional year beyond MV's opening and the worst of the overcrowding is mitigated.

Leave the portables at Scullen for one more year.

[doctorwho]

wvhsparent said:

That is reality unfortunately....unless you could talk the new juniors to move over the 1st year too......hey doc...I wonder if they would consider Varsity stuff if the Juniors moved too that 1st year.....

not sure - but part of the explanation was also that - there has to be somewhere to play - no gym, no fields - no teams right ?

Fall sports for sure -- girls VB, boys soccer etc -- if nowhere to play when the school opens , it is a mute point

[confused]

A friend of mine from Fry pointed out to me today that if it shakes out as it appears, they will be the only students from Scullen going to Waubonsie - since obviously White Eagle & Peterson would have to fill either Still or the gold campus. She's very concerned about it and it is a real problem. Everyone felt so bad for Brookdale in that scenario...

[jftb]

confused said:

A friend of mine from Fry pointed out to me today that if it shakes out as it appears, they will be the only students from Scullen going to Waubonsie - since obviously White Eagle & Peterson would have to fill either Still or the gold campus. She's very concerned about it and it is a real problem. Everyone felt so bad for Brookdale in that scenario...

Some of Peterson are walkers to Crone. What happens to them? Which ms are overcrowded besides Scullen?