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Post by bob on Mar 13, 2007 18:56:34 GMT -6
nothing is ever stone, especially with commercial land turning into 'affordable housing' every other council meeting Then I asked "RIC" Show me a large piece of unused commercial property that will be rezoned to cause such a large population increase that will change the boundaries with the 3rd HS at BB.
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Post by warriorpride on Mar 13, 2007 19:15:38 GMT -6
Just answer the question. Please use strikes out to edit the above...I am confused as to what you edited on 'just answer the question'..... answer to your question that you will just have to come back and post........................SOMETHING boundaries are fluid regardless of where the property is and will reflect the demographics if/when the school opens..... I'm not so sure about the boundaries being so fluid. Yes, there may be a time & place, but very infrequently, to change boundaries. I think we've all seen the uproars any time boundary changes are proposed in 204 or any neighboring SD. So, to say that they are fluid over a few year's time, no way. Over the very long haul, yes, and only when there's a clear population shift that warrants it. I think where the HS kids are coming from for the next 5-6-7 years in pretty established, and as long as there's not a big surprise (huge tracks of land rezoned to residential), there should be no need to change HS boundaries over that time.
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Post by ric on Mar 13, 2007 19:38:36 GMT -6
Please use strikes out to edit the above...I am confused as to what you edited on 'just answer the question'..... answer to your question that you will just have to come back and post........................SOMETHING boundaries are fluid regardless of where the property is and will reflect the demographics if/when the school opens..... I'm not so sure about the boundaries being so fluid. Yes, there may be a time & place, but very infrequently, to change boundaries. I think we've all seen the uproars any time boundary changes are proposed in 204 or any neighboring SD. So, to say that they are fluid over a few year's time, no way. Over the very long haul, yes, and only when there's a clear population shift that warrants it. I think where the HS kids are coming from for the next 5-6-7 years in pretty established, and as long as there's not a big surprise (huge tracks of land rezoned to residential), there should be no need to change HS boundaries over that time. the 2009 or 2010 SB's fiduiary responsibility will be to place the appropriate amount of butts to fill and moreso 'even out' the number of students in the district. To think otherwise is..............(fill in the blank)
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Post by doctorwho on Mar 13, 2007 20:05:17 GMT -6
I'm not so sure about the boundaries being so fluid. Yes, there may be a time & place, but very infrequently, to change boundaries. I think we've all seen the uproars any time boundary changes are proposed in 204 or any neighboring SD. So, to say that they are fluid over a few year's time, no way. Over the very long haul, yes, and only when there's a clear population shift that warrants it. I think where the HS kids are coming from for the next 5-6-7 years in pretty established, and as long as there's not a big surprise (huge tracks of land rezoned to residential), there should be no need to change HS boundaries over that time. the 2009 or 2010 SB's fiduiary responsibility will be to place the appropriate amount of butts to fill and moreso 'even out' the number of students in the district. To think otherwise is..............(fill in the blank) is their a bounty being paid for how many times the word fiduciary is used ( or misused ) -- ? they are not getting down to the student level- it is for the most part ES school level for balancing...they will not move 5 here and 6 there to be perfectly balanced... the SB record on fiduciary responsiblity speaks for itself - highest bond rating for schools and lowest cost to educate per student in DuPage county -- why not answer to that instead of try to put everything in one 'fiduciary' bag....it's getting real old
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Post by warriorpride on Mar 13, 2007 20:07:20 GMT -6
I'm not so sure about the boundaries being so fluid. Yes, there may be a time & place, but very infrequently, to change boundaries. I think we've all seen the uproars any time boundary changes are proposed in 204 or any neighboring SD. So, to say that they are fluid over a few year's time, no way. Over the very long haul, yes, and only when there's a clear population shift that warrants it. I think where the HS kids are coming from for the next 5-6-7 years in pretty established, and as long as there's not a big surprise (huge tracks of land rezoned to residential), there should be no need to change HS boundaries over that time. the 2009 or 2010 SB's fiduiary responsibility will be to place the appropriate amount of butts to fill and moreso 'even out' the number of students in the district. To think otherwise is..............(fill in the blank) I think otherwise. I totally disagree. The boundaries have nothing to do with fiduciary responsibility. The responsibility is to look at the current numbers, where the kids are coming from, as well as projections for residential areas that may not quite be built out, and to set boundaries that will balance the enrollments out once 204 is built out. To do otherwise would cause the need to change boundaries every year or two - something nobody wants.
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Post by doctorwho on Mar 13, 2007 20:09:15 GMT -6
"RIC" Show me a large piece of commercial property that will cause such a large population increase that will change the boundaries with the 3rd HS at BB. bob the new sb in 2009 or 2010 will do that for you if the candiates were being true to the call of fiduciary responsbility ( see anyone can use that phrase ) - they would tell us now. If they have such brilliant ideas let's hear them...I heard a whole lot of nothing last time....
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Post by doctorwho on Mar 13, 2007 20:10:21 GMT -6
the 2009 or 2010 SB's fiduiary responsibility will be to place the appropriate amount of butts to fill and moreso 'even out' the number of students in the district. To think otherwise is..............(fill in the blank) I think otherwise. I totally disagree. The boundaries have nothing to do with fiduciary responsibility. The responsibility is to look at the current numbers, where the kids are coming from, as well as projections for residential areas that may not quite be built out, and to set boundaries that will balance the enrollments out once 204 is built out. To do otherwise would cause the need to change boundaries every year or two - something nobody wants. for some here, 'fiduciary' must have been on a word of the day calendar - next it will be used to described the paint color on the walls of the new HS
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Post by doctorwho on Mar 13, 2007 20:12:21 GMT -6
You are absolutely right that this is not fair to 6th and 7th graders. But what has the district done to move forward? Nothing. That's my point. Boundaries will change due to time and demographics...Voting 'yes' cause you like the boundaries...not a good move voting 'no' cause you didn't like the boundaries...not a good move What's not fair to the 6th and 7th graders is telling them 'these are the boundaries for hs..... we the SB promise...." when in fact nothing is set in stone. the lesson life is not fair ......move on doctor, heal thyself.....you don't like the boundaries...move on... you don't like BB ...move on
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Post by ric on Mar 13, 2007 20:13:29 GMT -6
Boundaries will change due to time and demographics...Voting 'yes' cause you like the boundaries...not a good move voting 'no' cause you didn't like the boundaries...not a good move What's not fair to the 6th and 7th graders is telling them 'these are the boundaries for hs..... we the SB promise...." when in fact nothing is set in stone. the lesson life is not fair ......move on doctor, heal thyself.....you don't like the boundaries...move on... you don't like BB ...move on no comprende
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Post by doctorwho on Mar 13, 2007 20:20:29 GMT -6
doctor, heal thyself.....you don't like the boundaries...move on... you don't like BB ...move on no comprende you tell everyone else to move on, take your own advice. You are so absorbed with the boundaries, they are set for now, move on. If BB HAS to be moved, then and only then the issue changes origin is from the Bible, Physician heal thyself
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Post by ric on Mar 13, 2007 20:25:46 GMT -6
the 2009 or 2010 SB's fiduiary responsibility will be to place the appropriate amount of butts to fill and moreso 'even out' the number of students in the district. To think otherwise is..............(fill in the blank) Dr who edit button please ('bob' is never on when the dr is in) wp go ask the current SB to post on tthe IPSD website that................ there will be NO boundary changes or PROPERTY changes from the referendum when/if the 3rd hs opens in 2009/10 it will stop the back and forth on this board (and we will have something in writing then again,,,we will have to ask that of the 2009/2010 new board,,,,and it will be new quote]
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Post by doctorwho on Mar 13, 2007 20:41:11 GMT -6
the 2009 or 2010 SB's fiduiary responsibility will be to place the appropriate amount of butts to fill and moreso 'even out' the number of students in the district. To think otherwise is..............(fill in the blank) Dr who edit button please ('bob' is never on when the dr is in) wp go ask the current SB to post on tthe IPSD website that................ there will be NO boundary changes or PROPERTY changes from the referendum when/if the 3rd hs opens in 2009/10 it will stop the back and forth on this board (and we will have something in writing then again,,,we will have to ask that of the 2009/2010 new board,,,,and it will be new quote] The SB is well on record about nothing more than tweaks being done to any boundaries...inclduing going into detail about what 'tweaks' mean for those challenged to understand what that means. Watch the tape of the last candidate forum for more details on that, it is very clear, for the umpteenth time. It pays to be informed. The people who ask never seem to attend any of the SB sessions to get information. As far as the SB being new .....sure, whatever you say... And before you try and start any more rumors, plenty of people here know me very well, I am not Bob, I am not M2, I am not CB or even CV.
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Post by doctorwho on Mar 13, 2007 20:43:22 GMT -6
the 2009 or 2010 SB's fiduiary responsibility will be to place the appropriate amount of butts to fill and moreso 'even out' the number of students in the district. To think otherwise is..............(fill in the blank) Dr who edit button please ('bob' is never on when the dr is in) wp go ask the current SB to post on tthe IPSD website that................ there will be NO boundary changes or PROPERTY changes from the referendum when/if the 3rd hs opens in 2009/10 it will stop the back and forth on this board (and we will have something in writing then again,,,we will have to ask that of the 2009/2010 new board,,,,and it will be new quote] also you quote warriorpride and ask me about an edit button - again unless you continue on this charade I am Bob ( isn't everyone ? ) -why ask me about an edit button ??
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Post by warriorpride on Mar 13, 2007 20:44:21 GMT -6
the 2009 or 2010 SB's fiduiary responsibility will be to place the appropriate amount of butts to fill and moreso 'even out' the number of students in the district. To think otherwise is..............(fill in the blank) Dr who edit button please ('bob' is never on when the dr is in) wp go ask the current SB to post on tthe IPSD website that................ there will be NO boundary changes or PROPERTY changes from the referendum when/if the 3rd hs opens in 2009/10 it will stop the back and forth on this board (and we will have something in writing then again,,,we will have to ask that of the 2009/2010 new board,,,,and it will be new quote] Ric, edit button please ;D haven't you figured out yet that I'm Bob, Dr Who, and MM?? the SB has already stated that HS boundaries are set, other than a minor tweak, as needed - no offense, but have you been paying any attention at all to what's going on in 204?
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Post by ric on Mar 13, 2007 20:45:34 GMT -6
Dr who edit button please ('bob' is never on when the dr is in) wp go ask the current SB to post on tthe IPSD website that................ there will be NO boundary changes or PROPERTY changes from the referendum when/if the 3rd hs opens in 2009/10 it will stop the back and forth on this board (and we will have something in writing then again,,,we will have to ask that of the 2009/2010 new board,,,,and it will be new quote] also you quote warriorpride and ask me about an edit button - again unless you continue on this charade I am Bob ( isn't everyone ? ) -why ask me about an edit button ?? because there is hardly an email from you or bob that isn't edited
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