FALSE Rumors and Representations

[movingforward]

Lehman could not care less about the adaquacy of his site with respect to SAFETY, TIMELINESS for OPENNING it's doors, central location, elderly families being displaced, ....

...ALL he is concerned with is either: 1) having the current boundaries changed to benefit Ashwood Park OR 2) changing the site of the HS to have Ashwood attending the new high school. DO NOT BE FOOLED; THIS IS ALL about HIS BOTTOM LINE!!!!!!

Sadly Tall Grass residents that are 'siding' with PL do not see that they are being 'played' by him.

Obviously you live in Tall Grass Macy! That has been obvious ! The fact that you are willing to throw high school students under the bus by supporting such a sub-standard site as the Macom location is truely sad.

[Arch]

"What's in it for me" -- driving Voters since the dawn of time.

[proschool]

FALSE --- A comment published on March 30th and attributed to incumbent candidate Mark Metzger that Bruce Glawe, John Stephens and Superintendent Howard Crouse met with Lehman in December to discuss his (Lehman’s) proposal over the course of two or three nights is completely false.



FALSE --- A quote published on March 30th and attributed to incumbent candidate Mark Metzger that “From those meetings we generated a list of about 15 questions and issues we had and those were put back to Paul (Lehman)” is totally false.

.......But he PL about what happened at the meeting so how can he say there was no meeting.

......But PL later admits admits that he intentionally did not respond to the 15 questions (that never existed). And didn't the rest of us see these questions anyway??

[lacy]

doctorwho said:

macy said:

What I don't understand is why the district was hiding the fact that they had discussions with him. I know there was some confidentiality agreement, but that seemed to be coming from the Superintendent and the SB. To this day I don't understand why this was kept from the general public? You all say the site is not adequate (power lines, road access, etc.). If the site was so bad, why the secrecy from the public.

And another thing, I simply don't understand the public outrage directed toward any candidate simply seeking information about the Macom land. What is wrong with finding out and communicating to voters what really happened during these discussions?

Then you've never worked under confidentiality agreements. There is a reason these get put into place and you don't reveal information from them - there are legal ramifications of doing that. I work with them all the time and I do not understand how people can say , well why not just reveal this or that....

I have not seen this particular one, and there is no bolierplate for them, they are usually customized with what can be said, dates of coverage for the agreements, people involved etc. My breach of a confidentiality agreement at my corporation would result in immediate dismissal and potential legal reponsiblity as an individual not as an employee, so let's also please remember there was one in place. Also remember only one side appears to have stepped out from the confidentiality agreement ( and maybe what he as revealed wasn't covered - again haven't seen it but don't know) - but there are some touchy items there that may still be covered that can't be revealed - maybe the disposition of the family that lives on the property, maybe the impact of the power substation etc etc .

The outrage is not that candidates contacted him, the outrage, just like the CFO connections is that the candidates talked around this fact and in fact hid these items from their agendas. Michelle Davis at least thought enough of it at one forum to spend her closing statement explaining the contact - she got the fact that people felt this should have been told to the voting public by those who had contact, not revealed by Paul Lehman himself in the papers.

I am outraged that the district and current school board have not been open and honest with the taxpayers of this district who fund their very operations.

I find it hard to believe that their was really a confidentiality agreement in place. Confidentiality was what I believe Crouse wanted so he and the SB could pursue BB only (and at all costs). How did this serve the best interests of the district?

I think it's nothing more than an excuse to cover their butts at this point.

[lacy]

bob said:

It seemed there were many that believed KK sent the letter out.

Well he still might have sent the letter out after receiving it. It's called forwarding an e-mail. KK got it before any of us and we represent a cross section of the SD.

The "any of us" you are referring to is anything but a cross section of the SD.

I believe you are a group who has banded together to promote a specific agenda.

[doctorwho]

lacy said:

doctorwho said:

Then you've never worked under confidentiality agreements. There is a reason these get put into place and you don't reveal information from them - there are legal ramifications of doing that. I work with them all the time and I do not understand how people can say , well why not just reveal this or that....

I have not seen this particular one, and there is no bolierplate for them, they are usually customized with what can be said, dates of coverage for the agreements, people involved etc. My breach of a confidentiality agreement at my corporation would result in immediate dismissal and potential legal reponsiblity as an individual not as an employee, so let's also please remember there was one in place. Also remember only one side appears to have stepped out from the confidentiality agreement ( and maybe what he as revealed wasn't covered - again haven't seen it but don't know) - but there are some touchy items there that may still be covered that can't be revealed - maybe the disposition of the family that lives on the property, maybe the impact of the power substation etc etc .

The outrage is not that candidates contacted him, the outrage, just like the CFO connections is that the candidates talked around this fact and in fact hid these items from their agendas. Michelle Davis at least thought enough of it at one forum to spend her closing statement explaining the contact - she got the fact that people felt this should have been told to the voting public by those who had contact, not revealed by Paul Lehman himself in the papers.

I am outraged that the district and current school board have not been open and honest with the taxpayers of this district who fund their very operations.

I find it hard to believe that their was really a confidentiality agreement in place. Confidentiality was what I believe Crouse wanted so he and the SB could pursue BB only (and at all costs). How did this serve the best interests of the district?

I think it's nothing more than an excuse to cover their butts at this point.

So you are calling them liars as well ? nice.

And your business experience with confidentiality agreements is what to make that judgement ?
It is you with the agenda my friend.

[lacy]

movingforward said:

Lehman could not care less about the adaquacy of his site with respect to SAFETY, TIMELINESS for OPENNING it's doors, central location, elderly families being displaced, ....

...ALL he is concerned with is either: 1) having the current boundaries changed to benefit Ashwood Park OR 2) changing the site of the HS to have Ashwood attending the new high school. DO NOT BE FOOLED; THIS IS ALL about HIS BOTTOM LINE!!!!!!

Sadly Tall Grass residents that are 'siding' with PL do not see that they are being 'played' by him.

Obviously you live in Tall Grass Macy! That has been obvious ! The fact that you are willing to throw high school students under the bus by supporting such a sub-standard site as the Macom location is truely sad.

I think the school district could care less about the taxpayers of the district. They think we are nothing more than a blankcheck to fund whatever they want.

And I call into question their care and concern for the children. How long ago did they say the district was overcrowded? Are we any closer to solving the problem?

IMO, If they were committed to that, they would have examined other available sites equally and not pursued BB solely.

[macy]

movingforward said:

Lehman could not care less about the adaquacy of his site with respect to SAFETY, TIMELINESS for OPENNING it's doors, central location, elderly families being displaced, ....

...ALL he is concerned with is either: 1) having the current boundaries changed to benefit Ashwood Park OR 2) changing the site of the HS to have Ashwood attending the new high school. DO NOT BE FOOLED; THIS IS ALL about HIS BOTTOM LINE!!!!!!

Sadly Tall Grass residents that are 'siding' with PL do not see that they are being 'played' by him.

Obviously you live in Tall Grass Macy! That has been obvious ! The fact that you are willing to throw high school students under the bus by supporting such a sub-standard site as the Macom location is truely sad.

Movingforward,

I'm more concerned with the lack of information put out by the district in regards to the dealings they had with Mr. Lehman. It's not about getting the high school moved to his parcel.

[lacy]

doctorwho said:

lacy said:

I am outraged that the district and current school board have not been open and honest with the taxpayers of this district who fund their very operations.

I find it hard to believe that their was really a confidentiality agreement in place. Confidentiality was what I believe Crouse wanted so he and the SB could pursue BB only (and at all costs). How did this serve the best interests of the district?

I think it's nothing more than an excuse to cover their butts at this point.

So you are calling them liars as well ? nice.

And your business experience with confidentiality agreements is what to make that judgement ?
It is you with the agenda my friend.

You spent countless hours on this site trying to convince the rest of us how smart and important you are.

Not impressed.

[bob]

I think the school district could care less about the taxpayers of the district. They think we are nothing more than a blankcheck to fund whatever they want.

If they didn't care then why do we have the best bond rating in the state and the lowest cost per student in DuPage. They could have given the teachers bigger raises and the admins bigger salaries.

Do you understand what a bond rating means?

IMO, If they were committed to that, they would have examined other available sites equally and not pursued BB solely.

Did you read the report on each site and how they came to the conclusion?

[doctorwho]

lacy said:

movingforward said:

Lehman could not care less about the adaquacy of his site with respect to SAFETY, TIMELINESS for OPENNING it's doors, central location, elderly families being displaced, ....

...ALL he is concerned with is either: 1) having the current boundaries changed to benefit Ashwood Park OR 2) changing the site of the HS to have Ashwood attending the new high school. DO NOT BE FOOLED; THIS IS ALL about HIS BOTTOM LINE!!!!!!

Sadly Tall Grass residents that are 'siding' with PL do not see that they are being 'played' by him.

Obviously you live in Tall Grass Macy! That has been obvious ! The fact that you are willing to throw high school students under the bus by supporting such a sub-standard site as the Macom location is truely sad.

I think the school district could care less about the taxpayers of the district. They think we are nothing more than a blankcheck to fund whatever they want.

And I call into question their care and concern for the children. How long ago did they say the district was overcrowded? Are we any closer to solving the problem?

IMO, If they were committed to that, they would have examined other available sites equally and not pursued BB solely.

YES, we are closer - do you not follow the quick take- or the fact that even without the hearing will be no later than September ? You know you have but you choose to ignore it. The solution is coming and likely very quickly - but for other agenda reasons you do not like the BB property - and can't accept any of these facts.

[forthekids]

lacy said:

movingforward said:

Lehman could not care less about the adaquacy of his site with respect to SAFETY, TIMELINESS for OPENNING it's doors, central location, elderly families being displaced, ....

...ALL he is concerned with is either: 1) having the current boundaries changed to benefit Ashwood Park OR 2) changing the site of the HS to have Ashwood attending the new high school. DO NOT BE FOOLED; THIS IS ALL about HIS BOTTOM LINE!!!!!!

Sadly Tall Grass residents that are 'siding' with PL do not see that they are being 'played' by him.

Obviously you live in Tall Grass Macy! That has been obvious ! The fact that you are willing to throw high school students under the bus by supporting such a sub-standard site as the Macom location is truely sad.

I think the school district could care less about the taxpayers of the district. They think we are nothing more than a blankcheck to fund whatever they want.

And I call into question their care and concern for the children. How long ago did they say the district was overcrowded? Are we any closer to solving the problem?

IMO, If they were committed to that, they would have examined other available sites equally and not pursued BB solely.

THEY DID! What do you call the Bolingbrook site and the land not far from NVHS and the church site on Eola? Why are you so insistent that the SB is out for their own interests? Their interests are the same as the rest of ours. They live here, pay taxes here and have children who go to school here. Get off your soapbox of "hidden agendas." No one would put themselves through working as many hours as our SB with no pay if they didn't have the districts best interest at heart. Now let's look at who might have ulterior motives and hidden agendas: PL, wants to sell land and houses; MD wants to sell houses...

[Arch]

lacy said:

movingforward said:

Lehman could not care less about the adaquacy of his site with respect to SAFETY, TIMELINESS for OPENNING it's doors, central location, elderly families being displaced, ....

...ALL he is concerned with is either: 1) having the current boundaries changed to benefit Ashwood Park OR 2) changing the site of the HS to have Ashwood attending the new high school. DO NOT BE FOOLED; THIS IS ALL about HIS BOTTOM LINE!!!!!!

Sadly Tall Grass residents that are 'siding' with PL do not see that they are being 'played' by him.

Obviously you live in Tall Grass Macy! That has been obvious ! The fact that you are willing to throw high school students under the bus by supporting such a sub-standard site as the Macom location is truely sad.

I think the school district could care less about the taxpayers of the district. They think we are nothing more than a blankcheck to fund whatever they want.

And I call into question their care and concern for the children. How long ago did they say the district was overcrowded? Are we any closer to solving the problem?

IMO, If they were committed to that, they would have examined other available sites equally and not pursued BB solely.

This is why many oppose those who always seem to want to go against whatever is on the ballot which tends to lead to NO PROGRESS (A specific WIN for the opposition type groups who oppose anything that there is to oppose for no real reason other than to oppose it for opposition sake). Empty promises of having a BETTER IDEA than the SB which always turn into NOTHING. And that NOTHING equates to little to no PROGRESS.

[doctorwho]

lacy said:

doctorwho said:

So you are calling them liars as well ? nice.

And your business experience with confidentiality agreements is what to make that judgement ?
It is you with the agenda my friend.

You spent countless hours on this site trying to convince the rest of us how smart and important you are.

Not impressed.

And as usual when you have no rational response - you revert to personal attacks and changing the subject .

And you spent countless hours asking me why I spend so much time here - whether it be jealousy or whatever --
You need to get over me -- but also you have to acknowledge that some people have more experience in certain fields than others -- you obviously have a hard time with that concept --

I am still looking for your experience in confidentiality agreements ? It obviously is what I thought it was.

But you can look for another target today because your baiting will not get me to lower myself to respond how I'd like and get thrown off the boards....

have a nice election day...

[bob]

I think Macy has a problem that her kids won't go to NV. Lacy has never mentioned having kids so I don't know what her ax is in this thing.

MV is going to have, I think 3 out of 5 of the top grade schools as feeders.